.XXX tld might be coming soon
 

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-5176438.html?tag=nefd_hed

New extensions are being submitted again to ICANN, and .xxx might be approve pretty soon. It appears that new.net, the organazation that started to push and sell this extension w/o Icann approval might be getting validated by ICANN. If that is so, there's a whole new ball game.

What will happen to the current adult .COMs? Will a crazy religious zeleot in Congress force all adult related sites into .xxx?

These are just a few questions being pondered by many domainers, and the adult industry should look closer at this as well.

Quote:

"Stuart Lawley, the president of Toronto-based ICM Registry, said he hopes ICANN will approve his request for .xxx so "responsible adult entertainment businesses can go about their business in a less restricted way"

What the Hendeles crew is missing here is that it doesn't
matter what the name space is called. Surfers won't make
any more type ins in a .xxx namespace then they will in
any other.

There are also active movements for .porn and .sex , but it
seems that we get to read spam here about .xxx on more and
more regular basis.

It is coming no doubt, and I personally think it is a great move. It has nothing to do with religious zealots, but rather with establishing a suitable structure to the web. Not only would this legitimize adult entertainment online, but it will also help people easily protect their children from seeing inappropriate material, whilst at the same time being able to easily view it themselves. I would also imagine, everyone would be given a chance to register their .xxx alternative (i.e. Adult.com will be notified and asked if they want adult.xxx) and I personally hope it goes through.

im taking a gamble with new net domains
been buying up

Not going to happen.

#1 - New.net has .xxx already
http://www.new.net/index_ext.tp?lang_id=english
which requires a plugin to view. If ICANN adds it to the existing TLDs, there would be legal conflict unless New.net has an agreement with them.

#2 - No webmaster with any sense would ever use it, since ISPs
can just filter *.xxx out from their connections, and block them completely.

Firstly how does this new.net thing work? How are they authorised to run all these .kids, .church, etc? I am pretty damn sure that ICANN would not have to listen to them in the least, considering ICANN is the appointed officer of these kinds of things. Also, looking through the groups aplication to ICANN it does not make any mention of allowing for those with .com names etc, to have primary chance on registering the .xxx alternative. Damn, can't wait for this to go through if it does - it will be an awesome chance for many.

This is a common line from these guys, but if you can't block
access to .com sites from determined people. Example the
chinese using Google and CNN. How does this idea of .xxx
make it any easier to keep minors off sites they shouldn't be
viewing?

Site access control through namespace is not currently techincally
feasable without massive changes to the code running on the
worlds DNS servers. Site access controls are better left to be
solved at the HTTP protocol with more effective server to browser
authentication schemes that take content ratings into
consideration.

:thumbsup yep

All the technical specs are on their site. It's an interesting read. Most hosts support the new.net domains now, just not many people use them. It has somewhat gone the way of SVG.

ICANN is not the dictator of all that is a "domain". They only handle what is on their system, which is so far... The "Standard". This does not mean that they cannot be bypassed.

This is the internet, welcome. You can pretty much do anything if you know how.

Take the time to read the ICM site and you'll notice that one
of the seats on it's board is filled by Ronald Appleby.

These seemingly 2 different .xxx ventures are actually just 1.

there is a process to go through to make new tlds, it costs a lot of money but if approved you get controlling rights to the tld, so you can sell them, new.net is trying to make .xxx a real tld instead of one needing a plugin to view. im pretty sure thats how it goes anyway

regardless a future where all adult material is on .xxx's would make it very easy to prevent kids from seeing any adult material on the web which would be agreat plus, but how do you police such a thing and make sure no one has adult content on regular domains. also if such a thing happened all of a sudden millions of domains would suddenly be useless, costing companies millions of dollars, would people be able to get there current domains in .xxx form? as someone said above that would also be difficult from new.net actually selling .xxx's already.

it might be a better situation if the extension wasn't something already being sold.

"unless New.net has an agreement with them"

Yes, new.net will probably have an agreement w/ ICANN if this deal goes through. New.net has enough resources to challenge ICANN and make it very complicated, so most likely, the .xxx extension will be coming through new.net

It will suck if those domains already registered on new.net now become the accepted domain names for the new .xxx alternative.

The new.net and the ICM ventures for .xxx appear to both be
backed by Hendeles. Mr. Appleby proves the common tie.

Yes, it would suck. It means people who had registered it will be in conflict w/ dot Commers.

Yes, but hopefully he is greedy as most and disregards all previous registers and requires everyone to register through the official system. Would be good ;) Still though, a great chance to pick up some good ones.

.xxx domain is a very bad thing for our industry. It will be zoning ourselves out of business.

Lets hope this doesn't go ahead.

I think it's good but only if those who own the .com domains get there chance to register the .xxx domains first.

Really? What kind of stupid ISPs would do that? They'll loose lots of customers.

anyone wanna buy FreePorn.club ?:(

It is a horrible idea and one that has repeatedly been rejected by the top free speech lawyers in the United States as well as the major players in the adult industry.

Do some reasearch on the history of the fight over .xxx and you will see how wrong you are.

Forcing adult sites to move from .com to .xxx would be ridiculous. Around here XXX means explicit sexual content... what happens if you have an erotic or posing only site? It's still an adult site, but it's certainly not XXX.

That would never happen without a huge court fight.

.XXX is a horrible idea whose only purpose is to promote censorship and sales of more domains by the company selling them.

If you want a real solution to protecting kids, then you should support a .kids domain, not a .xxx.

Forcing sites you don't agree with into another domain, which can easily be filtered by ISPs, is an attack on free speech and anyone who supports it in the adult industry needs to do some more research before you actively help the anti-porn crowd put you out of business.

Even if XXX goes to a TLD it wont stop .com adult oriented TLD's even if US legislation is past to force it. There is one thing that stands in the way of fucked up American Politicians...

And that would be...

THE WORLD.

Of course, it would be easier for Google or other engines to filter out the .xxx extension if all porn were located on this extension (for people that wanted it filtered out...parents and such).

Withh the past TLD additions, ICANN made a point of disallowing previously-registered names on those TLDs to be "grandfathered in." If new.net succeeds with a proposal for an ICANN-backed .xxx, I bet their current .xxx registrants will have no special standing.

it will be stupid for ICANN to validate .xxx
next day all possible extensions will be in hands of private companies ina hope this will happen again.

You're right. ICANN has already said that no one will be granfathered into any of the other new TLDs. If you own porn.xxx now, you will not own it if XXX gets approved by ICANN.

They would do a lottery after they allow trademark holders to take what they want.

Free speech? Should porn be played on popular TV channels at 5pm for the sake of free speech?! There's nothing wrong with having it on another extension like you would have porn movies playing at 5pm.. on a specialized channel... As for ISPs... all the major ones WONT block it... as for the rare ones who block it... then the free speech argument comes in and users affected will have to take up the issue with those ISPs... You'll also lose the some users living in conservative countries... but look at your paysite's members list... what is their percentage? not much...

By having a .xxx extension... you just took away all arguments for the Bush admistration to crack down on internet porn... since its now "controlled" ...

The only major problem I see.. is ok, the .com will transfer to their equivalent with .xxx ... but what about the .net....

who the fuck needs .travel or .mail ??? :BangBang:
The idea of .xxx and especially all adult domains moved to .xxx is fucked up!
If someone has f.e nudeteens.com and someone other has nudeteens.net, then who should get nudeteens.xxx...
Is it simply impossible to handle and the whle idea sucks :warning

i agree

The .info landrush was a joke.
I lost money on it because of cheaters with bogus trademarks and a lack of will from Affilias to fight them.

who told you that .com will be transferred to .xxx
I am 99% sure, it WON'T !

You are 100% wrong. Again, this issue has been debated by free speech lawyers and industry people for years, and it's almost universaly rejected by people who care about free speech (and the adult industry making money) who take the time to understand the issue.

Making an XXX extension doesn't take away the government's interest in censoring porn, nothing does that. Do you think the justice department will suddenly like porn because it's on a .xxx domain? That's is ridiculous. It just makes it much easier to censor adult content. Look at what has been happening with Visa and Mastercard. Do you believe that the government has no influence over decisions that private companies make?

By making a mandatory .xxx extension, you are giving the government all the tools they need to shut down all adult content on the internet by putting pressure on private companies to block access to .xxx domains.

Even if the government didn't do anything, can't you imagine AOL, Earthlink, and others deciding that .xxx should be blocked because a few right wing idiots threaten to boycott? Look what happened with Janet's boob on the superbowl. Why do you think that the right wing wouldn't force every major ISP to block .xxx?

Who decides what is on .xxx? The government? Do you think that softcore should be on .xxx? What about bikini content? What about GFY?

Why not just support a .kids extension and let adults enjoy the full internet? The internet is not intended for children unsupervised. It never was and it never will be. If you want to make the entire internet kid friendly, because you are too lazy to monitor your children, then you are destroying the entire interet and killing free speech.

double post

Whoa, with this and the fact that ICANN seems to be against grandfathering of domains, I can't wait for this shit to happen. It will be an absolute crazy rush to register these domains, but I am sure if you are truly prepared you can pick up many nice ones. Oh, it is giving me a hard on thinking about it...

(btw, the free speech arguement is a joke, .xxx would allow for quite a degree of responsible regulation within the industry)

Are you a troll?

Adult content is speech protected by the constitution like political speech, art, or anything else.

No matter what you and Bush might want, there is no distinction in the constitution for speech that you don't like.

Go to the library and read a few books, unless you don't think books are speech either? :1orglaugh

I was quite good prepared for the .info pre-rgistration process.
I pre registered with different companies, paying often non refundable fees domains like casino.info, holiday.info, wallstreet.info, impotence.info etc. but these names went mostly to cheaters who claimed to have a trademark for "impotence.info" in South Africa.
It was not a fair process.
Where big money comes into the game, small, or honest people not always have a chance to win.

The good thing is onlt that i Got 2 shitty adult domains from the .info Landrush and noone wanted to buy them, so i entered the adult biz to develop them.

But as Mr. Fiction already said, who should decide what content should be moved there and who should control it?
If USA introduced a law that doesn't allow adult content on the current extensions, the who will control it?
How about poeple from the Netherlands, from offhore jurisdictions, or from Russia, from Poland ???

This idea is bad...it doesn't matter if you call it free speach or not...but you cannot tell that the ISP's won;t filter porn, because they lose customers...
Visa would also lose money when they eliminate adult rebills, but that danger is still real...

I deleted that bit anyway, as I know it came out wrong. What I was trying to convey was that putting pornography on a different tld is not an attack on pornograph or its right to be seen by those legally allowed to view it. It is illegal for children to view pornography, as such it can not simply be seen as an inherent right for it to be freely available. Just as hanging a piss in your toilet is legal, but hanging a piss in front of 30 people in daylight is illegal. Although it is hard to put forward what I am trying to say, in my opinion it won't affect our right to portray adult erotica to those allowed to see it.

Why not take the other approach and support .kids for sites that are safe for kids. It's a much better solution if you want to find a way for kids to surf the internet "safely".

Even if you got all U.S. "porn" site off of .com (which would never happen), what about Nazi sites and anti-abortion sites with graphics pics, and ******* and non U.S. sites?

Instead of attacking free speech for adults, you could make a .kids domain and only allow sites that are safe for kids. It makes more sense.

A reasonable solution, however (I dare to say) MOST sites on the web are suitable for a child audience anyway.

I ready to buy .xxx domains :)

New.net will never get ICANN's approval.


Easy as that :)


Maybe a 5% chance of it.

New.net names are crap and always have been, once .xxx is released/approved all will finally relize this, wasted $...

Mike

For those looking to buy visit http://www.xxxextension.com I own http://www.webmasters.xxx 10k to buy today.

Why doesnt yahoo.com sell porn?

:glugglug

Lock if thats a new.net Domain which it is, your pucked :)

Mike

Who care? .com for ever ! :Graucho