Those looking to build a good TGP submission list: here you go
 

You're looking to fire up a good tgp list then? Great. Instead of asking guys like me if I'd be willing to hand over my list to you, why not try building your own? You may THINK that by getting someone else's list it will save you time... it won't. My list works for me, not you. My list has partner account codes that are mine, not yours. The TGP owners are expecting galleries from me under those accounts, not you.


So here you go, step by step. If you're smart, you'll read it. If you're intelligent, you'll do it. *Be advised, the following is for a good hand-submit list, so focus on the largest tgp's out there for this one. For the rest, buy an auto-submitter, I'm sure someone can recommend you a good one.

• Start scoping out TGPs. Open up a browser, type in oh, say... w w w dot worldsex dot com..... and go there. Find the submission or webmasters link, and click that. Now bookmark that submit page. Up top in your browser, find "favorites" and click it, then click "add to favorites".... you may want to also create a new folder in your bookmarks called "TGP Submits".
• Now that you have your first tgp bookmarked, go back to the worldsex main page, and find out who he's trading with. See those textlinks to other sites? Those are TGP's!! Click on them, and repeat the above first step on each of them. Also check out who those sites are ttrading with, and keep on adding tgp after tgp to your list. Remember to add their SUBMIT pages only.
• Add in thehun.net's submit page as well. He doesn't trade with anyone, so you'll have to do it separate.
• OPTIONAL: make up a special html page, and put links to all of the tgp submit pages on it. Upload it to one of your sites, and bookmark the page so you don't forget where it is. Also, on that page, group the TGP submit links so they match up with your recip pages. That is, if you always put Worldsex on the same recip page as Shemp and Snakesworld, then group those three together on your new submission list page.
• Once you have a sizeable list of TGP's (50 to 100 is plenty), fire up a gallery, make sure it's a good one, make sure it is clean and within standard tgp rules. No fancy scripts on it, no bullshit delayed popups or timed redirects etc etc. Then, create your recip pages for it, and submit it to each and every tgp you bookmarked. Tomorrow, do the same, most of the larger tgp's only accept one gallery per day. Some only accept one gallery every 3-4 days. Follow the rules.
• Repeat: Follow the rules.
• Keep an eye on which TGP's list you. One way to do this is be checking your server logs, another way is to have a 3rd party counter at the bottom of your gallery, so you can tell who is listing you and who isn't. This is not an instantaneous process people..... have some fucking patience. Submit a gallery a day to your list for a few months, and keep tabs on who isn't listing you at all.
• If you feel your galleries are exceptional, try looking on the submit pages of those tgp's that aren't listing you, for a way to request a partner account, or else email the tgp owner. Say something like "I've been submitting good galleries to you for a few months now but haven't had much luck getting listed, I was wondering if you could take a look at a few and let me know what I might be doing wrong"..... and provide links to 3 or 4 of your galleries. If you don't hear back, maybe it's time to drop those ones and find other tgp's to fill those gaps.
• After submitting for months and months, and dropping TGP's that won't list you and adding in new ones that will..... you will find that eventually you have a good working list that will generate from 50k to 300k+ uniques per day to your gallery pages.

Of course you can supplement this in a number of ways, like buying a tgp auto-submitter, and you can shorten your submission worktime by paying someone like $5submissions to do it for you. You can even hire a designer to make up your galleries for you if you're really pressed for time.

And lastly, is it worth it to submit? The answer to that is.... yes, IF the person answering knows what they're doing. All others will say no it's a waste of time or only for newbs. Remember, most paysite owners would love (kill) to have several good gallery submitting affiliates working on their behalf. A 100K uniques per day times 10 webmasters = a million uniques a day to the galleries, which WILL translate into many thousands of clicks through to the paysite itself. If the site is converting on average at only 1:800, that can mean anywhere from 10 to 30 or 40 signups a day (or more), depending. Trust me, there are paysite owners salivating over this as you read it.

Try it, and decide for yourself if it is worth it or not. Don't submit for a week and then quit, you can't gather an informed opinion by that. Do it full-bore for six months or don't do it at all.

If you've got questions, post them here, not in that other thread.

I'll start.

Hey CD, can I see your list?


no.





Anyone else?

Hey CD, 'MAY' I see your list?

Heh heh heh heh



no.





For you I'm tempted, but no.

THIS is the thread to post in, not the other one.

Sorry chief:

Battuss, I get guys every week asking me what tgp's I submit to, and if they can see my list. The above is how I do it. I prefer doing it by hand, and in having my own online submission page for my hand-submits has saved me huge amounts of time in the past.

I simply don't care to automate everything, nor do I use any autosubmission programs, at least not yet.


But thanks for that link. I may find a use for something like that yet.

Well, the thing is, adv submitter lets you do exactly what you are doing but in a more organized and easier way.
I submit by hand...with advanced submitter. I have a list of 700 tgps devided in several categories. If today i only want to submit to thumb tgps then i start up adv submitter and only load that list, i let the script fill in the forms for me, give it a quick double check and hit submit. If i notice something important i make a note of it and it shows next time i submit there. So what im saying is im basically doing the same thing as you but i think in way less time and much more organized and the dbases and program itself are highly adjustable.

I knew someone would have an automated fancy gizmo to do what I do "only better"....

That looks like a good option too, for those that want to go that route. My way is the way to do it if one isn't looking to buy software etc.


Does it come with the TGP's already loaded? Also, how does it work for helping you get partner accounts? Would one not have to have made some inroads into submitting before grabbing onto a program like that?


Post how much it costs.

$98

Worth every penny.

GallerySubmitter.com is way easier.. no updates, no sitting in front of the screen doing a lot of it semi-manually... and its $0 :Graucho

Chameilon is the one for me!

You can buy a dbase from them or have 1 made or make your own. About partner accounts, i mailed most tgps on my list going through them one by one using adv. sub. and now 2 weeks later i have 70 partner accounts. Now the program automatically inserts my partner pass in the submit form :) Couldnt be any better and easier.

Does it keep the db updated 24/7 as well?

No.

Hmm...

Doing it my way is still very organized though. I've always had 50-70 big tgp's on my private submission page, I just upload the new gallery and all the recip pages to one of my sites, then I go through my list submitting each recip to the proper tgp's. It takes me about an hour to do what used to take several. I've been doing it this way for over 3 years now.



But I'm not averse to change.



If a program like this is so quick and produces such great results, why would anyone pay someone else to submit for them? I'm thinking mainly about guys like $5submissions.... what are the advantages this advancedsubmitter has over him?

I guess i dont have to mention adv submitter mirrors the galleries for you with recips with a push of the button?

Wow! Doesn't every tool do that? :winkwink:

Dude get of my fucking back.

ahahhahaa, thats what i was thinking. i even checked the thread to make sure it wasnt like 3 years old after i heard him talk about bookmarking the tgps he submits to.

if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. i dont know about you.... but i dont give out my submit passwords. not that i think hes a crook, but i dont trust anyone. to submit a gallery to 75-100 tgps and also logging into a member area and grabbing pics, then making the actual gallery with my template only takes me around 30 minutes. sometimes even less.

Not on your back, dude... just don't think you're giving him very good advice so I have every right to comment on your comments :1orglaugh

Ok, what part of what i said to him is not giving good advice?

Recommending Advanced Submitter :winkwink:
There are loads of sites it can't submit to properly... you still need to update everything yourself... you need to sit and monitor/assist the submission process... you can't just schedule and forget... you need to pay extra for automatic email confirmations or do them yourself...

how cool is that :(

Recommending Advanced Submitter :winkwink:
There are loads of sites it can't submit to properly...

Simply not true, it can handle 95% of the sites and the other 5% you may have to fill in in 1 form your self, big fucking deal for someone who used to do this by hand for years.

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You still need to update everything yourself...

Yup and im happy with that, if you want most out of your submission proces you keep track of it yourself, not somebody else...something you dont understand i gues.

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You need to sit and monitor/assist the submission process... you can't just schedule and forget...

Yup, see above + cdsmith was NOT looking for an autosubmit program hence i advised him adv submitter. Read before you post dude. Plus once again, if you are serious about submitting you simply do not auto submit.

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You need to pay extra for automatic email confirmations or do them yourself...

I think adv sub. has an email confirmer build in, not sure since i never used it because i want to confirm myself to make sure nothing fucks up. And again, i dont think cdsmith wants it automated as well.

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how cool is that :(

Very cool dude



So, conclusion, you dont have a clue what youre talking about. Thanks.

Can't I just go the lazy way and beg your list off of you? I don't feel like doing ALL of that hard tedious work. :glugglug

good advice man

Bullshit. It's obviously you who have no clue.

We do the handsubmissions for our users as well. It takes around a minute to add a gallery for submission. Everything is taken care of.

You're a fool if you believe doing things manually, even semi-manually, these days is the way to go. And an even bigger fool for telling others to do it that way.

An example: I submitted 4 galleries a few days back. I got 9 sales out of that. With maybe 15 minutes of work, total, gallery creation included. No partner accounts used.

That said, I'm not picking a fight with you. Just stating your obvious ignorance. But then again, ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

God im a fool indeed for having sigs disabled, i didnt know i was talking to someone who runs a submit program hahahaha. Just a pissed off program owner who knows adv submitter is 10x better than his program.

Im not gonna discuss with you anymore dude.

good read CD.

Thank you :)

hehe well written. :thumbsup

Okay, that's a good point. Yes, I suppose you would have to share your partner passcodes with a submission service for them to submit for you. See, I didn't even think of that... I thought they'd have all that in place and just blast your galleries for you.

Aside from one of these autosubmitter things, mine is the best hands-on system I've ever seen, and I've talked with dozens of webmasters about how they manage their submissions. And I still have concerns about these autosubmitters anyway. Most of the biggest TGP's absolutely HATE autosubmissions with a passion, to the point of you having to input a unique code in order for the submission to work. Do these programs have some way of working around that?

indeed... this may be the first time i read every letter in every post

then again, i'm pretty much doing all this anyway (i assumed everyone else was too, other than beginners)

or you could just use my list, still in the works, I have about 500 to add over the next few days.

http://www.wickedwebmasters.com/submit/

you can submit galleries to places to link to them?
:1orglaugh

I love how as soon as people hear "Advanced Submitter" they assume you want it for autosubmission.

I've been using it for quite some time, and I've never once used it to autosubmit for me.

What do I use it for? Easy grouping of recips without me having to manually edit ANY tables if I want to quickly drop a TGP's rank or remove it from the list entirely. I use it to keep track of my partner accounts, I use it to keep track of where I am on my submission list with easy to keep track of status marking, I use it for quick and painless HTML mirroring, and I'm sure a ton more.

I didn't submit for years because of the hassle of building my own recip tables and trying to remember which HTML page goes to which TGPs, this is eliminated with most tools, I just like the feel of AS the best.

As for an autosubmitter, why are people even arguging about them? It isn't the topic at hand (As far as I read in the first post), of course that spammy little prick spams his piece of shit everywehre he can cluelessly, so we'll just move right along.

CD, you gave some great advice, even if you still do things in the stone ages, but it's your method and it works for you, so I can't knock it.

:glugglug

Are you part of this TGP Generation i keep hearing about?


Good Post :glugglug

i was just about to say the same ;)

Great post mate. Cheers.

Nice going guys for these excellent posts. Thumbs up!

Now where can we buy cheap bulk content (pics) to make the galleries? Any bulk offers availale? I've been searching for some time.

I never submitted a gallery other than through AS from the start. I love it and this thread has been reassuring to me that I made a wise choice.

no its hand submission software that fills in the information for you. you type in the codes yourself. if you havent tried the program you should seriously try it. i gurantee it you will never go back to your old methods.

http://www.jesussmut.com/commandments.html

:eek7 Some Christians aren't going to be very happy :1orglaugh

So... if you want to auto-submit to the other 5,000 smaller tgp's that don't mind taking auto-submissions, you still have to buy a program like GASS or Russian-Submitter then?

Sorry, I guess I AM in the stone age. :D

But I didn't go into the greatest detail as far as my private submit page goes or how it is organized. I too developed an html page key, and have a code system in place. Each of my recip pages always uses the same file name for every submission. I cut & paste the recip links and create the 30-odd recip pages, takes about 20 mins to do this. It is, if anything... organized.

And it doesn't cost a hundred bucks. hee hee


I AM intriqued though. I'd like to hear more about this. Are the two programs mentioned here the only two for this? And aside from any arguing, I'd seriously like to know the strengths AND weaknesses of each of them, if possible.

You can select which tgps you want to autosubmit to and which ones not. Its just a click of the button.

This is one of those great threads that comes along every now and then that is worth bookmarking and referring back to every once in awhile. Thanks a lot. :thumbsup

Ah, so it DOES autosubmit too then? More of an "all-in-one" tool then.


That other guy seems to think his program has some advantages over yours. Is there a way we can discuss that without you guys killing each other? I'd like to know a few more things about each program, and also if there are others.

Ready? Here goes....


Battuss, someone said the price was $98 for the program. Broda says his program costs $0.00.... how can that be?

You mentioned that a list of TGP's can be bought. How much would the most complete list cost someone?

Broda mentioned that his program has a few advantages, namely "no updates, no sitting in front of the screen doing a lot of it semi-manually" ...... are those really huge advantages or not? (new people looking at this might want to know)

If myself or someone else reading this thread ends up getting one of these programs, are there also opportunites for us to become affiliates and make money promoting/selling the program?


I look forward to reading your replies.

Where do you get your content for galleries ?

I'm pretty new here, so I hope you don't mind the stupid questions :glugglug