Ccbill Listen To This!
 

I'm sitting here unable to see my aff. ID in the source code of the signup page with ANY of my ccbill sponsors.

Why? Because you're using cookies only which steals like 30% of all sales I make.. (I don't know how much it steals, 30% just sounds good :Graucho)

What you need to do is to expand your system to save the IP of the surfer too and track signups on that too

Spare me for the "Why don't you just write them an email" posts .. you know just as well as me that it won't help shit..

I'm quite sure we're alot of people who'd like to see this feature being implemented ASAP

I know some people shares IP .. but I can't imagine that should be much of a problem..

Anyone who agrees with me please comment so CCBILL can see that I'm not the only one aware of this problem, people who disagree :321GFY

:)

How can they LISTEN to a post that is just a bunch of text?

I'll pretend I didn't hear that!

yup great tips bet they dont do it

I'd like to hear the official response to the cookie policy...

It is a good idea.......but it doesnt solve the problem:2 cents:

No, not completely. So other ideas should be posted here as well

*bump*

Bump for the Bishop :)

this is a long known problem
processing only with ccbill would be a bad idea for affiliates

in general my ccbill sites are converting way worse than the epoch,... sites do

Be patient!
Corvett know and is working on it.
Let him wake up, it's night over there.

biskoppen, please ICQ me: 230743090
monro

biskoppen?

Am I mistaken or was this brought up last week? And wasnt there a reply from CCBill about tracking for non-cookie users?

CCBILL LISTEN TO THIS!!!

thanks for sending me my checks on time... again... as usual!!!

Bitches listen to this!

I think it's like 1% of surfers that have cookies off, not 30%!

its not about how many people use cookies.

duh.

I think this thread is interesting and a CCBil lreply would be even more interesting :2 cents:

Now isn't it funny that so many sponsors say that CCbill is the best prosessor.. and so many affiliates complain about it ?

Well.. the less reff id's they track the more money right down the sponsors pockets..


Beeing that CCbill sponsors is the worst converting for me to, i do hope the come up with way more improvements for the affiliates, though i doubt it as that might loose them some sponsors :2 cents:

It's a problem that's needed to be addressed for a long while. However people get a little confused about cookies - it's a LOT lower than 30% for the type of cookie CCBill is using. Most people with cookies off are simply blocking 3rd party cookies which is not the type CCBill uses.

Even so the system and the sites in it should be using cookies AND simple tracking through the site. It's not like it's hard to do.

How can you say a thing like that?

When all those virus warnings was all over the news, it was alot of instructions how to set IE to a high security level.
High security level = no cookies = no affiliate payment

What do you mean "Bitches" Are you a sponsor making money out of this and does not like it being dicussed?

All sponsors using ccbill can in their stats see all signups where the the affiliate is not paid and the affiliates URL as well.
THAT can be done, not the payment?

I smell something more in this. I have made a lot of testing to find out for myself what's going on and why as an example AFF can have the very same signup ratio for years...
AFF do not use ccbill
Three of my sponsors using ccbill do not pay my share when a customer has "high security" set.
One of my sponsors using ccbill pay whatever the cookie settings,
SexyAds in Australia. How can they do it?
IT CAN BE SOLVED!
I'm so tired of this "accepted" thefts going on.
First shaving and now this!

I'm so tired of all those here defending shaving and this small cuts by cookie settings.

Is there no honor left in the USA?? Small thefts like this should never be accepted by people in Western Europe or Australia.

i heard it is actually more then 30%
lemme see if i can find that page again

Maybe this info helps you.

First of all CCBILL DOES work with cookies. So surfers who has cookies OFF, yeah you lost them...

As far as NOT seeing your ID on the joinpage that is because you surfed that page already before WITHOUT your link...

When you goto a www.sexdomain.com a cookie is set for 24 hours. Now when you go so that page again by clicking your REF URL you WON'T see your ID. But for example when you CLEAN ALL your cookies, then click your ref url, then you SHOULD alays see your ID on the joinpage(except when you have cookies off DUH)

now when you click on another ref for the same SEXDOMAIN, you still SEE your ID.

Maybe this answers your question a little?

(And no I'm not working for ccbill :D)

Andre

one of the reasons i have no luck with sites using ccbill

Of course it can be solved. Simple changes CCBills end will make it possible for all affiliates to not have to rely on just cookies. ANYONE with half a clue in PHP etc can knock up something that does this anyway with the current system - it's not that difficult. Of course it then also means shaving is easier for those who want to do so hence my comment about a system that uses ccbill cookies AND dynamic tracking. Very easy to do if CCBill made a couple of changes.

Again for those who miss very basic points - most people DO NOT have ALL their cookies disabled if they have any at all disabled. Different security/privacy settings affect different cookies and most people only disable 3rd party cookies. You lose sales but it's not as high as many seem to think. Even so one lost sale is one too many.

What amazes me though is why people keep treating shit like this as something new. As with the ability to cap rebills it's been around for ages. Seems to me 90% of the people flogging porn spend their days running around with their heads either int he sand or up their arses. Either way they can't see out. But then people will continue to blame their own inability to sell on everything but themselves. It's far easier to look for excuses rather than to admit you're doing something wrong :)

After following this thread and similar the conclusion must be:
Small theft is allowed by ccbill and others and should not be spoken of..
If you try do defend the money belonging to you after your agreement sponsor - affiliate
you are just dumb.
1. Many valid cards with funds are discharged and you are not paid.
2. Shaving are almost openly going on, programs and plug-ins are openly sold
to assist a sponsor doing it. Ccbill could stop it instantly if they wanted to, only saying
to their sponsors that if they shave they will be banned by ccbill.
3. Ccbill allows sponsors to stop recurring payouts to affiliates without notifying the
affiliate.
4. The affiliates part of the money a customers pay are deducted if the customer has
the security level at IE set to "High"
How much are left of the money you, as an affiliate, have the right to? 50%?
And remember, the affiliate has the marketing cost, server cost, labor cost and often
has to buy traffic.

:Oh crap

..on top of that many sponsors have their e-mail collect forms and enter/exit consoles.. just to squeze that extra buck away from your traffic.. and then they actualy wonder why affiliates complain so much.. :mad:

I'm only using one popunder as the most. Afraid of disturbing my customers. If a prospect see an intersting sponsor link at my page and proceed to the ccbill sign-up page, changing his/her mind and try to go back for another link at my page, ccbill deliver TWO POPUPS! Trying to take over customers delivered by me at my cost!

use some code to set a cookie. if the cookie isn't set, don't display any ccbill sponsors.

Dude, first of all I was just playing. No I don't like CCBill because the ratios blow ass. I assumed it was from scrub. Last I checked it was 1% of people with cookies off, maybe it's different now.

Anyhow, I think it's shitty either way, I was just fucking around.

yea sales with ccbill have been suckin for my affilaites lately ..but good for me :(

so if someone has cookies off there is no way the affiliate is getting the sale????

Yeah.. now you know why Sponsors all love CCbill so much..:(

Think this will be a short time gain though as affiliates will just move on to sponsors not using ccbill..

Use http://www.gaypartnership.com/ and you could double your money whith ccbill !!!

Ours are doing the opposite just goes to show different sites with different sponsors with different traffic give different sign ups with different processors

Did i say different enough times ? too much christams spirit i think


Happy christmas all

Cindy xx

Setting Unq
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Session Only 5,037
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Based on 92,383 Uniques


i've seen days though with like up to 40% having cookies disabled

I like you ... I like you alot

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well we track using IP and cookies :)

Darren your a shaving sponsor and we all know that and I hate to see you pop up in threads like this with such bullshit.
As a ccbill sponsor I am partial to this thread however my motto is and always will be if afilliates make money they will continue promoting you and its good business as well as ethical to implement anything that can help partners and, I support this 100%.

intersting thread bump

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