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Mr. Mojo Risin 11-03-2003 03:25 AM

what's the most "practical" programming language to know for the web?
 
What language(s) should I know to land a job telecommunting on the web? What's the most widely used? PHP, Perl, ASP, etc.


thanks....

mrthumbs 11-03-2003 03:25 AM

php + mysql.. all you need.

BRISK 11-03-2003 03:26 AM

php + mysql

goBigtime 11-03-2003 03:27 AM

php + mysql.


But corporate america proably would like you to know .NET and ASP shit... not that they know wtf they really want or need in the first place.

Mr.Fiction 11-03-2003 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
php + mysql
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BRISK 11-03-2003 03:29 AM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images.../xyxthumbs.gif

:thumbsup

BlueDesignStudios 11-03-2003 03:30 AM

Fortran

Mr. Mojo Risin 11-03-2003 03:31 AM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


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I guess I will have to learn both :(

thanks

Libertine 11-03-2003 03:39 AM

For a web programming-related job, php+mysql is most important. However, you need perl as well, since chances are you'll be encountering that pretty often also. Besides that, some basic C/C++ knowledge is extremely helpful. Oh, and ofcourse, xml is something you have to know, as are jav<b></b>ascript, css and obviously html (xhtml).

hvidlogspusher 11-03-2003 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
Fortran
:1orglaugh :thumbsup

AssFairy 11-03-2003 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
Fortran
LOL, how old are you :1orglaugh

lil2rich4u2 11-03-2003 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
php + mysql.


But corporate america proably would like you to know .NET and ASP shit... not that they know wtf they really want or need in the first place.

spoken like an experienced programmer :1orglaugh

those asshats never know wtf they want (neither do i though) heh

BlueDesignStudios 11-03-2003 03:54 AM

Ada95 might also be useful, just incase you want a web based nuclear missile launcher... :2 cents:

BRISK 11-03-2003 03:57 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2


spoken like an experienced programmer :1orglaugh

those asshats never know wtf they want (neither do i though) heh

Did someone say asshat?

http://www.megapics.com/images/asshat.jpg

Nightwork 11-03-2003 04:47 AM

Programming isn't about knowing a language, programming is all about being able to think with a certain logic and within certain structures.

For a good programmer it's peanuts to learn a new language, as it's just getting familiair with a new language's syntax (which usually already looks familiair if the language itself looks any good, hehe.) and finding out language relative common pitfalls.

Problem with most "programmers" is that they just jump into a language and learn themselves a few tricks. 8 out of 10 times I see some webscript (also professional scripts, sold at outragious prices) I simply start crying. Most of the time it works but the amount of ductape needed to keep it together is normally more than the lines of code used.

So before even starting to program or learning it, read some stuff about database architecture, software architecture (multitier environments, objectorientation), security and go through some old mathbooks from back in school.

Being a programmer it doesn't matter which language is hot or easy, if a client requests, you can do the tricks.

Libertine 11-03-2003 04:52 AM

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Originally posted by Nightwork
Programming isn't about knowing a language, programming is all about being able to think with a certain logic and within certain structures.

For a good programmer it's peanuts to learn a new language, as it's just getting familiair with a new language's syntax (which usually already looks familiair if the language itself looks any good, hehe.) and finding out language relative common pitfalls.

Problem with most "programmers" is that they just jump into a language and learn themselves a few tricks. 8 out of 10 times I see some webscript (also professional scripts, sold at outragious prices) I simply start crying. Most of the time it works but the amount of ductape needed to keep it together is normally more than the lines of code used.

So before even starting to program or learning it, read some stuff about database architecture, software architecture (multitier environments, objectorientation), security and go through some old mathbooks from back in school.

Being a programmer it doesn't matter which language is hot or easy, if a client requests, you can do the tricks.

Although you're partly right, knowing specific languages is more important than you make it seem. It saves loads of time in trying to find standard functions that do what you want.

blazin 11-03-2003 05:32 AM

perl + mysql

For those that need the speed - mod_perl :thumbsup

Nightwork 11-03-2003 06:04 AM

Punkworld,

Ofcourse if it comes to speed, it's pretty handy to know the most common function syntaxes by heart. I probably picture it a little bit too much black/white.

But knowing all functions by heart, doesn't make you a good programmer. Knowing in which patterns to think, etc, does. If you're new to a language, it might cause you to be a bit slower, but the qualitylevel is what matters (to me at least).

I've expierenced it dozens of times. Fast and sloppy code catches up to you in the long term, as you have to rewrite all to implement new features. A decent structure and logic, takes more time to write, but saves time in the long run.

Cyborg69 11-03-2003 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by Nightwork
Punkworld,

I've expierenced it dozens of times. Fast and sloppy code catches up to you in the long term, as you have to rewrite all to implement new features. A decent structure and logic, takes more time to write, but saves time in the long run.

have to use OOP... as much as hated when our profs was telling that at the begining of learnign programing he is right....

Mr. Mojo Risin 11-03-2003 06:56 AM

what about logo?
:1orglaugh

Mr. Mojo Risin 11-03-2003 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
what about logo?
:1orglaugh

I vaguely remember fooling with it in elementary school... it was a drawing language, right?

iwantchixx 11-03-2003 07:12 AM

html :Graucho

Nightwork 11-03-2003 10:03 AM

iwantchixx, n00bs shouldn't try to make nerdjokes, the only funny thing about it is that it makes you look pretty stupid o_O

sweet7 11-03-2003 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
Fortran

:1orglaugh

Baal 11-03-2003 11:45 AM

I reccomend that any programming novice start learning to program in the Brainfuck programming language.
The language only has 8 commands (and is Turing-complete), so it's easy to learn. Here is the Brainfuck code for a Hello World program (and YES, that is the actual code, not some screwed up link); you can see how easy it is write a program with just 8 commands to learn!


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