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Chris 10-09-2003 09:55 PM

Why does gay convert?
 
BackDoorTwinks 2 1:46
BackDoorTwinks 1:86


that is two hahahahahahahaha sites... i did not convert doing that ( hell i didnt even push those sites ) but i was wondering why there top two so called best converting sites are gay sites ? ... i notice that with alot of sponsors. Im not flaming gays at all or anything to each there own ya know
just wondering if the adverage porn surfer happens to be gay ?

chowda 10-09-2003 09:56 PM

probably

InsaneGreen 10-09-2003 09:58 PM

cause gay guys have big credit cards from styling hair n such...

vapewiz 10-09-2003 09:59 PM

Gay people do not have children, or wives to spend all their cash. They also enjoy porn and there is less quality sites to join (vs straight sites) so the ratios are better. They also retain longer.

Centurion 10-09-2003 09:59 PM

Because "gay" is currently in.
All my friends and a few neighbors of mine have gone queer thanks to the tv show!
(They got one stiff union though!:winkwink: )

Penthouse_mike 10-09-2003 09:59 PM

higher disposable income
porn friendly attitudes
fewer mainstream substitutes


I remember seeing something about homeless people who would pick stuff out of people's garbage and sell in on the sidewalk.
The thing they could sell quickest was gay porn tapes.

unconnected 10-09-2003 10:17 PM

pretty fucking easy man..

Surfer at teenie hardcore straight site = 14 year old horny boy jerky off 24/7

surfer at gay hardcore site = 26-40 year old white collar job man with a CC willing to spend money on porn.

X37375787 10-09-2003 10:18 PM

anything converts well if you target it with the right traffic. :2 cents:

- Jesus Christ - 10-09-2003 10:18 PM

Satan likes gays more.


Therefore he helps you out, making gay conversions higher to move you ever closer to the dark side.

pamphage 10-09-2003 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Satan likes gays more.


Therefore he helps you out, making gay conversions higher to move you ever closer to the dark side.

:1orglaugh

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 12:50 AM

There are many valid points raised above, and a few more to boot!! As summary from us:

#1 Gay men/couples in the majority have a far higher disposable income than their straight counterparts.

#2 Gay men KNOW what they like, and what they are looking for.... this is the main why exclusive content works so well for conversions and retention.

#3 Gay men are "generally" more comfortable and open about their sexuality and sexual practices than straight men - surfing and viewing porn is not an undergorund habit in most cases, but a significant pastime.

#4 Gay surfers are, across the board, a much older demographic, which equates to generally higher salaries and more specifically spent leisure time.

#5 It is FAR easier to convert a straight surfer to gay than a gay surfer to straight - bisexual and bi-curious are significant markets - some of our most successful webmasters run straight sites and use our gay sites in their exit chains. :thumbsup

#6 Women surfers also are not insignificant - our softcore sites especially appeal to them, and work well.

#7 Gay couples are far more likely to view porn together as a regular pastime than straight couples (across the board).

#8 Sex is a larger part of the gay man's life (no kids etc etc), and getting horny does not always require the 20 beers first !!! So gay site conversions spread very equally across the week!!

#9 There are HEAPS less gay sites than straight sites (especially QUALITY exclusive and/or unique sites!!) so competition is less.

#10 Gay surfers DO NOT have 100's of emails promoting a plethora of different gay sites hit their inbox - they surf and look more often, than click on impulse from their email.

#11 Gay surfers communicate their favorite sites more readily to each other - compare the Newsgroups for gay and straight - speaks for itself.

Yes Virginia, we did our research!!!

That's why our 15 exclusive and original content sites convert so well and retain so impressively.

:winkwink:

pimplink 10-10-2003 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cutetwink
Gay people do not have children, or wives to spend all their cash. They also enjoy porn and there is less quality sites to join (vs straight sites) so the ratios are better. They also retain longer.
Good business analysis. A rarity in GFY.

SomeCreep 10-10-2003 12:55 AM

In general, some sites may convert better than others. But I dont believe niches follow that rule. It all depends on how you advertise the niche that will dictate how well it converts.

stevecore 10-10-2003 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cutetwink
Gay people do not have children, or wives to spend all their cash. They also enjoy porn and there is less quality sites to join (vs straight sites) so the ratios are better. They also retain longer.
thats a common misconception... the stats are actually about the same for hetero vs. gay surfers. you're just quoting a stereotype that has been thrown around way too much.

stevecore 10-10-2003 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EvilToyBoy

Yes Virginia, we did our research!!!

That's why our 15 exclusive and original content sites convert so well and retain so impressively.

:winkwink:

f

very well said on most counts! couldn't have said it better if i had written another article on it today... :winkwink:

Stud Money 10-10-2003 01:06 AM

The simple answer to the original question is that they convert because gay surfers are usually more affluent than their straight counter parts with a much greater disposable income base.

D.I.N.K - Double Income, No Kids.

Actually, gay surfers are also far more choosing over the sites they join, they will usually base their buying preferences on the first 2 pages of a sites tour, this is why it is important to ensure content mathces the gay market niche that you are marketing to on paysites for instance, on a bear site, ensure the models you are using content of are actually bears, just because a guy has a bit of chest hair, that doesnt make him a bear. In much the same way that just because a model is 18, doesnt make him a twink.

One of the most over saturated niches in the gay adult market is and always has been, the twink niche, therefore you should offer your gay surfers a wider choice, whether that be a more general hardcore gay site such as http://www.qualitymales.com a true bear site like http://www.purebears.com an ebony male site like, http://www.blackmalestuds.com or, something unique such as our site http://www.dilf.com there is much more to the gay market than twinks and emaciated looking guys, in fact, niche for niche, the gay adult market has more niches than the straight market place and, if you can market the sites you are promoting to a community rather than an individual surfer you will make more long term income from your sponsors regardless of whom they are.

On the subject of the 'community' and putting that to use in marketing your sponsors many gay market sites now offer information inside them (at least the Stud Money sites do) relating to the individual tastes of the surfer joining the site, so on Pure Bears as an example, in addition to the thousands of images, movies, stories, and the usual stuff a gay surfer can find in just about any site, we make them feel as if their community is included in the site by offering links of interest to a specific sub niche for example, a community forum, links to popular gay orientated news sites, everything that the gay surfer could potentially want to have access to from one central location, our sites. This is also one of the reasons that our sites retain the members so well, in addition to the porn that our members are getting they are also gaining access to information that they perhaps otherwise wouldnt know existed or, at the very least, wouldnt know how to find.

Thats my :2 cents: on why gay market sites convert so well anyway :thumbsup

escorpio 10-10-2003 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penthouse_mike
higher disposable income
porn friendly attitudes
fewer mainstream substitutes


I remember seeing something about homeless people who would pick stuff out of people's garbage and sell in on the sidewalk.
The thing they could sell quickest was gay porn tapes.

OT - your "Ichi the Killer" sig fucking RULES!

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money
TOO LONG TO REPEAT !!!!
This man knows his business folks....


:thumbsup

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore
very well said on most counts! couldn't have said it better if i had written another article on it today... :winkwink:
:Graucho

Stud Money 10-10-2003 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EvilToyBoy


This man knows his business folks....


:thumbsup

Drop me an email dude lets get an exit trade running between some of our sites :thumbsup

[email protected]

stevecore 10-10-2003 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penthouse_mike
higher disposable income
porn friendly attitudes
fewer mainstream substitutes


I remember seeing something about homeless people who would pick stuff out of people's garbage and sell in on the sidewalk.
The thing they could sell quickest was gay porn tapes.

click on "About" from the link in your sig and tell me if you can read all those paragraphs in the time allotted. :winkwink:

Stud Money 10-10-2003 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore


click on "About" from the link in your sig and tell me if you can read all those paragraphs in the time allotted. :winkwink:

Nice catch :thumbsup

stevecore 10-10-2003 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money


Nice catch :thumbsup

thanks... that site was apparently made for speed readers

Stud Money 10-10-2003 01:29 AM

I read it all :Graucho

Seriously though, that site does need to be s l o w e d down a little hehe.

Chris 10-10-2003 01:29 AM

Gay this gay that .. i just cant stand looking at a guy staring at me with his penis in his hand .... I think i could handle doing it for like 30 seconds with out getting all freaked out but to have to submit the gallerys for a few hours an dlooking at man junk... oh god no

Centurion 10-10-2003 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EvilToyBoy
There are many valid points raised above, and a few more to boot!! As summary from us:


I have to disagree with your conclusions in a couple of areas. They are really very over used generalizations that just don't hold up under scrutiny.

But alas it's very late and I got to get some sleep, so I'll wait until tomorrow to try and explain my feelings then. Think I'll make more sense then.:)

vapewiz 10-10-2003 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris
Gay this gay that .. i just cant stand looking at a guy staring at me with his penis in his hand .... I think i could handle doing it for like 30 seconds with out getting all freaked out but to have to submit the gallerys for a few hours an dlooking at man junk... oh god no
You only do lesbian porn?

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money
I read it all :Graucho Seriously though, that site does need to be s l o w e d down a little hehe.
You read it ALL ?? :(

I thought I was reading the credits from a Simpsons episode... I didn't get past "Animation"....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Centurion 10-10-2003 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris
Gay this gay that .. i just cant stand looking at a guy staring at me with his penis in his hand .... I think i could handle doing it for like 30 seconds with out getting all freaked out but to have to submit the gallerys for a few hours an dlooking at man junk... oh god no
Then don't do it! DOH!

Stud Money 10-10-2003 01:33 AM

Well actually i lied :Graucho

I think i got to the end of the first line lol

Im sure that now the speed thing has been pointed out that they will fix it though :thumbsup

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money
Drop me an email dude lets get an exit trade running between some of our sites :thumbsup [email protected]
Hey Stud :)

I have a few things on presently, but I promise you are on my "to-do" list .... in fact you've been there for a while ...

:thumbsup

stevecore 10-10-2003 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris
Gay this gay that .. i just cant stand looking at a guy staring at me with his penis in his hand .... I think i could handle doing it for like 30 seconds with out getting all freaked out but to have to submit the gallerys for a few hours an dlooking at man junk... oh god no
1) you're not comfortable with your own sexuality.
2) you look at a guys cock everytime you watch a straight porn.
3) you fail to recognize a potential market which in turn will cost you sales.

Stud Money 10-10-2003 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EvilToyBoy

Hey Stud :)

I have a few things on presently, but I promise you are on my "to-do" list .... in fact you've been there for a while ...

:thumbsup

Awesome stuff :thumbsup

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris Gay this gay that .. i just cant stand looking at a guy staring at me with his penis in his hand .... I think i could handle doing it for like 30 seconds with out getting all freaked out but to have to submit the gallerys for a few hours an dlooking at man junk... oh god no
Could be worse Jup..... SCAT maybe???

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Just grit your teeth and think of the cash :Graucho

It's not like (And I have been waiting patiently to use this line!!!) "show me on the doll where the bad man touched you!!"

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore
1) you're not comfortable with your own sexuality.
2) you look at a guys cock everytime you watch a straight porn.
3) you fail to recognize a potential market which in turn will cost you sales.

Amen brother!!!!

:glugglug

Stud Money 10-10-2003 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore
.2) you look at a guys cock everytime you watch a straight porn.
What is this 'straight porn' you mention? :1orglaugh

Actually there was a study done several years ago (all anonymous) by some university like yale or the likes where they played straight porn and gay porn to a mixed audience of men and women.

After the movie segment had finished they gave questionaires to everyone and it transpired that for the striaght men, the first thing they looked at was the males cock in the vid clip. For the women they looked at the other women and for the gay men they looked at the guys face.

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money
and for the gay men they looked at the guys face.
Just after they came all over it...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Sorry Stud - the opening was there, and Toy Boy had to fill it!!!

:Graucho

stevecore 10-10-2003 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money


What is this 'straight porn' you mention? :1orglaugh

Actually there was a study done several years ago (all anonymous) by some university like yale or the likes where they played straight porn and gay porn to a mixed audience of men and women.

After the movie segment had finished they gave questionaires to everyone and it transpired that for the striaght men, the first thing they looked at was the males cock in the vid clip. For the women they looked at the other women and for the gay men they looked at the guys face.

i guess that just means everyones superficial & self conscious

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore
i guess that just means everyones superficial & self conscious
Fuck I wish I'd said that.

As rather a generality across society it is SOOO fucking true.

:helpme

vapewiz 10-10-2003 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money

for the gay men they looked at the guys face.

http://dilf.com/t1/pps=NoAdvert/images/mainmini2a.jpg

http://dilf.com/t1/pps=NoAdvert/images/mainmini1a.jpg


Great faces. Where did you get these models? :helpme

stevecore 10-10-2003 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EvilToyBoy


Fuck I wish I'd said that.

As rather a generality across society it is SOOO fucking true.

:helpme

stop staring at my face!!:BangBang: :1orglaugh

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore
stop staring at my face!!:BangBang: :1orglaugh
Bwah ha ha ha ha ha....

Too funny dude!!!

:1orglaugh :helpme :thumbsup

Stud Money 10-10-2003 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore


stop staring at my face!!:BangBang: :1orglaugh

Gotta pic :Graucho

stevecore 10-10-2003 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cutetwink


http://dilf.com/t1/pps=NoAdvert/images/mainmini1a.jpg


Great faces. Where did you get these models? :helpme

he's on "Just Shoot Me" on NBC



http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1092...itz_154854.jpg

pimplink 10-10-2003 01:55 AM

Maybe if your Dad stopped signing up for twink porn, the conversion rates wouldn't be as good?


LOL j/k

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris
BackDoorTwinks 2 1:46
BackDoorTwinks 1:86


that is two hahahahahahahaha sites... i did not convert doing that ( hell i didnt even push those sites ) but i was wondering why there top two so called best converting sites are gay sites ? ... i notice that with alot of sponsors. Im not flaming gays at all or anything to each there own ya know
just wondering if the adverage porn surfer happens to be gay ?


Stud Money 10-10-2003 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore


he's on "Just Shoot Me" on NBC



http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1092...itz_154854.jpg

Gay celeb lookalikes :1orglaugh

stevecore 10-10-2003 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money


Gotta pic :Graucho

search and ye shall find

EvilToyBoy 10-10-2003 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money
Gotta pic :Graucho
http://www.allaustralianboys.net/EvilToyBoyLarge.jpg

Stud Money 10-10-2003 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EvilToyBoy


http://www.allaustralianboys.net/EvilToyBoyLarge.jpg

Haha no fair that guys with a chick :Graucho

pimplink 10-10-2003 01:58 AM

ahahahahah gay celeb lookalike niche lol!



Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore


he's on "Just Shoot Me" on NBC



http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1092...itz_154854.jpg



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