The Expansion of the Patriot Act...
 

You should be concerned. Get informed, it may be what's coming...

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15541


Some highlights include...:

Americans could have their citizenship revoked, if found to have contributed "material support" to organizations deemed by the government, even retroactively, to be "terrorist." As Hentoff wrote in the Feb. 28 Village Voice: "Until now, in our law, an American could only lose his or her citizenship by declaring a clear intent to abandon it. But ? and read this carefully from the new bill ? 'the intent to relinquish nationality need not be manifested in words, but can be inferred from conduct.'" (Italics Hentoff's.)

The government would be instructed to build a mammoth database of citizen DNA information, aimed at "detecting, investigating, prosecuting, preventing or responding to terrorist activities." Samples could be collected without a court order; one need only be suspected of wrongdoing by a law enforcement officer. Those refusing the cheek-swab could be fined $200,000 and jailed for a year. "Because no federal genetic privacy law regulates DNA databases, privacy advocates fear that the data they contain could be misused," Wired News reported March 31. "People with 'flawed' DNA have already suffered genetic discrimination at the hands of employers, insurance companies and the government."

Authorities could wiretap anybody for 15 days, and snoop on anyone's Internet usage (including chat and email), all without obtaining a warrant.

Oh and here's a good one:
The death penalty would be expanded to cover 15 new offenses.

American citizens could be subject to secret surveillance by their own government on behalf of foreign countries, including dictatorships.


Oh it's fun stuff...

fuck ashcr*ft, fuck bush, fuck acacia, fuck everyone.

they pass that type of shit and it's time to RECALL the whole fucking congress...

fuck congress and the senate, too.

they're asking for a civil war, aren't they?

Why anyone in their right mind can support an Administration that on a whim would remove all their civil liberties, and in fact already HAS removed many, I have no idea.

at least we have the 2nd Amendment as a backup in the worst case scenario...

we had to fuckup a bunch of pushy dicks to make this country free the first time, looks like it could actually have to be done a second time :/

A point that more on the left should think about. :)

I want everyone to remember that Pornography has been linked to terrorism, or the funding thereof. This act would directly threaten our way of life (yes I'm Canadian, but it would affect me too). Like I say, get informed. Acacia sucks, but if this expansion gets passed, they will be the least of your worries. :(

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx...1/prin-com.htm
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/
http://www.comms.dcu.ie/sheehanh/connell.htm

i wouldn't doubt it. this in itself is unacceptable. nobody needs to have my dna, it's bad enough they have my finger prints.

if i had to give up a dna sample because i was speeding and didn't shave that day, i'd be getting in a fight with a cop on the side of the road. even if it was the state p.

and with their furthered attempts at gun control in this country, it's going to get quite harsh.

the problem is, most people won't realize it until it's almost too late.

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It is almost too late.

No, it gets better..

Police officers carrying out illegal searches would also be granted legal immunity if they were just carrying out orders.

Federal "consent decrees" limiting local law enforcement agencies' abilities to spy on citizens in their jurisdiction would be rolled back.

God bless America

didn't see anything on the aclu site directly related to this. interesting stuff tho, if i remember i'll call over to the local aclu, and see what their stance is on this.

I'm waiting for 12clicks to come call me a liberal. I've missed that all day long.

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An someone please tell me what
"flawed dna" means???? :helpme

People with genetically inherited diseases such as Huntington's disease, diabetes, etc etc..

The right to bare arms. The revolution is near.

"Land of the free, home of the brave" sounds more ridiculous day by day. :1orglaugh

I hope someone liberates us soon.

Where would they send Americans who had their citizenship revoked? Guantanimo Bay?

Canada?

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amen to that

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From what! I thought Bush and his administration were the saviors of the American way! They kicked Iraq's ass, didn't they? That should be MORE than enough reason for them to stirck around!

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I think the US dictionaries are going to have to change their definition of the word "freedom" to include random cavity searches at airports, all communications to be traced, servaillence to be permissable at all times and the right for the gov't to freely give and take other freedoms as they see fit, except maybe the freedom of the media and freedom to not incriminate one's self (since the gov't can do that for you) :thumbsup

they're the most anti-American administration we've had in a long time imo...

they are pissing on the graves of every dead and mutilated veteran imo...

fucking assholes

:feels-hot

Note to all Americans: we in Holland will gladly take you in if you're looking for a new place to live :winkwink:

I didn't think there was much room left in The Netherlands!

Anyway, even though I'm Australian I've been to Amsterdam so often i think I deserve honorary Dutch citizenship!

That's an old article. Parts of the Patriot Act are already in the process of being repealed. Look up the Otter Amendment.

Also, the first Patriot Act cases are reaching the upper courts.
See the ACLU site for details.

Now ask yourself. Why did the original Patriot Act pass the Senate 98-1?

Seems like they're making the loss of life of the soldiers in Iraq mean less too, considering they're supposed to be fighting for freedom.. Just all seems a little too pat for me though. I guess I can't help being a skeptic about pretty much everything though.

This is the Patriot Act 2, it hasn't already passed has it? If it has, they aren't enforcing it.. and I would think having something handed to Ashfuck like that he would take advantage of it..

THIS article is new though, and JUST as frightening, I think.

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16856

Cavalery arrived....

http://www.ibillsucks.info/files/flag_cheney.jpg

Victory Tour?

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16789

No. Partiot Act II hasn't come up yet. Think about why the Patriot Act passed the Senate so overwhelmingly. Now look at how there is a reaction back against it and certain parts of it are being challenged in the courts and being nullified in Congress. This is the exact same pattern that has happened about a dozen times in US History. (Alien and Sedition Act, Suspension of Habeas Corpus, McCaran Act, McCarthyism, and more). All the elements are the same.

Unless there is another major perceived threat to the US (i.e. major terrorist attack) Patriot Act II will be dead in the water.

Cavalry can't stay. Going to watch football. See ya.

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It's still scary..

Every day the Bush Administration reveals a new layer of ignorance, greed and evil that are quickly becoming a true test of the strength of our democracy. I intend to do my part so we can deliver him and his cronies a resounding defeat in the upcoming election.

Only to those that have a reason to be scared.

Time for a revolution and a coup.

Major "foreign" terrorist attack to occur within 36 months by Wonton's prediction. Like the 9-11 attack, it will be determined months after the attack that the alleged perpetrators were:

- Granted entry Visas despite being on the terrorist watch list
- Spotted early by "good" agents of the FBI and/or CIA who alerted HQ but were ignored by their superiors
- Trained at bases originally set up by the CIA and now under proxy administration by Pakistan's ISI (an underling of the CIA)
- Gained further training within the US at US military bases
- Were funded indirectly by the Saudi Bin Laden Group and the Bush-owned Carlyle Group


Like 9-11, Wonton predicts that the following will also occur:

- The White House will be given dozens of precise warnings from the intelligence services of other nations about the impendintg attack but will ignore all
- The day preceeding the attack, high ranking military and government officials will be warned not to travel
- The day preceeding the attack, FEMA personel will already be present and installed in the target cities
- All US military bases, fighter squadrons and air defences will be ordered to "stand down" less than 24 hours prior to the attack.
- On the day of the attack all SOPs (standard operating procedures) for all first-responder military units will be ignored and no military units will intercept the attackers in time

In the days following the attack, all sections of Patriot Act I, previously repealed, will be restored. Patriot Act I will be passed with overwhelming majority. Martial law will be declared in the target cities and the governments new emergency powers granted in 2001 and 2002 will be put into effect for a minimum of 90 days. But don't worry. Martial law will be lifted within six months. It is only after the third major terror attack that facism will become permanent.

Wonton, based on extensive research of information in the public domain, is 99% certain he knows the general outlines of the type of attack and the locations but to say anymore would be foolhardy. But it's not too hard to determine what will occur and where it will occur. The information is all available, most of it online.

But to give you a hint, from information that has already hit the public airwaves, Gary Hart was on Hannity and Combs (Fox News) just a few months ago and he said:

"The next major terrorist attack will be biological attacks, perhaps smallpox, centered around Atlanta and Denver"

Now if the above actually turns out to be the case, how did he know that? And if he (and by extension the government) knew information to this level of precision, why couldn't they stop it? Ask yourselves those questions in 36 months.



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Are you posting form a mental institution...if not...you should be...but you are amusing.

I am posting from an internet connection within MENSA. So in a real sense - Yes, I am posting from a mental institution. But it's a type of mental institution to which you will never be admitted.

Yes indeed...very, very amusing.

doesnt concern i am not a muslim

No but you're a fucking dumbass

Not a biggie...

Bush is livin on borrowed time..

He'll be gone and this Patriot Act will go by the wayside..

We've been tapped and monitored illegally for lots of years... Not a new thing..

They just do it to see if there is reason to find something that they can use legally to bust you.. if so.. they dig deeper and get ya.. if not.. they kill the bugs and go on to the next one..

If ya live in the U. S. of A. then you're subject to being bugged.. legally or otherwise.. This govt is at war with it's citizens.. we just don't know it yet..