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gregdumas 06-09-2025 11:28 AM

Chaturbate - Long-Tail Rev Share Removed
 
I am a Chaturbate affiliate and I've sent them traffic since 2014. I found a major change that removed a huge amount of revenue from the Revenue Share program and wondering if others have the same problem.

I reviewed stats for 2025 per domain (I send a lot of domain traffic). It seems they wiped out all of the recurring revenue for long-time users. Any revenue for white labels with recurring revenue is gone, wiped clean. This is revenue that took many years to build.

My revenue is down 82% for the same period before these changes.

Isn't this the whole point of a rev-share program? Long term revenue. I feel like I just got robbed of thousands per pay period.

Is anyone else having this problem? I can't be the only one.

Shoplifter 06-09-2025 11:48 AM

I have been looking at White Label tracking and revenue and what has happened since February and have a similar situation.

Looking carefully at my stats and I find the only spenders who are not from 2025 are either "embed" or have my Chaturbate site affiliate ID and are not from White Labels. It's almost as if they have lost their grip on White Label tracking.

If you are a valued affiliate and have their ear I would email support. When someone like myself emails I just get a form letter back.

blackmonsters 06-09-2025 11:59 AM

Maybe part of it is age verification.
People from states that passed these laws are blocked until AV is done.
Having AV for every white label would be difficult.

:2 cents:

gregdumas 06-09-2025 12:29 PM

They changed how they associate a user with the originating affiliate recently. Since they did that, any link or white label that doesn't use the "new" way, doesn't have any recurring revenue from the past.

For example, if you had a user who started buying from Chaturbate in 2023 and the user then returned to Chaturbate.com, you would still get credit for that user. The new system is different. If that user doesn't use your link or white label after already purchasing from Chaturbate, you won't receive any commissions from that user anymore.

To further example, if you sent traffic from sexygirls.com then the user purchases from Chaturbate.com then all communication is from Chaturbate.com and the user forgets that he ever went to sexygirls.com. The prior system counted those sales so it wasn't a problem. Their new system does not.

I lost 84% of my revenue because I had links and white labels from 2014 so the recurring revenue was large and consistent. They basically chose to keep all my recurring revenue from a revenue share program. That's the opposite of how a revenue share program is supposed to work.

I have contacted them many times at the highest levels and no replies.

gregdumas 06-09-2025 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 23376126)
Maybe part of it is age verification.
People from states that passed these laws are blocked until AV is done.
Having AV for every white label would be difficult.

:2 cents:

This has nothing to do with age verification and everything to do with recurring revenue.

emmasexytime 06-09-2025 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376144)
They changed how they associate a user with the originating affiliate recently. Since they did that, any link or white label that doesn't use the "new" way, doesn't have any recurring revenue from the past.

For example, if you had a user who started buying from Chaturbate in 2023 and the user then returned to Chaturbate.com, you would still get credit for that user. The new system is different. If that user doesn't use your link or white label after already purchasing from Chaturbate, you won't receive any commissions from that user anymore.

To further example, if you sent traffic from sexygirls.com then the user purchases from Chaturbate.com then all communication is from Chaturbate.com and the user forgets that he ever went to sexygirls.com. The prior system counted those sales so it wasn't a problem. Their new system does not.

I lost 84% of my revenue because I had links and white labels from 2014 so the recurring revenue was large and consistent. They basically chose to keep all my recurring revenue from a revenue share program. That's the opposite of how a revenue share program is supposed to work.

I have contacted them many times at the highest levels and no replies.

How do you know this change? Have you tested it?

blackmonsters 06-09-2025 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376146)
This has nothing to do with age verification and everything to do with recurring revenue.

Well, if someone joined a year ago and doesn't want to do AV; then I don't know how
they can keep spending so you get their recurring.

:2 cents:

Shoplifter 06-09-2025 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376144)
any link or white label that doesn't use the "new" way, doesn't have any recurring revenue from the past.

There's a new way?

gregdumas 06-09-2025 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 23376200)
There's a new way?

You can only get their recurring if they can access the site. That's not the problem here. Very different problem.

gregdumas 06-09-2025 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376246)
You can only get their recurring if they can access the site. That's not the problem here. Very different problem.

I am really surprised no one has seen a change in their new vs recurring revenue. I spoke to another Chaturbate affiliate today and he is having the same problem and wasn't sure why.

They are keeping the recurring revenue from already-tagged users to my affiliate account. It's that easy.

money biz 06-09-2025 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376099)
I am a Chaturbate affiliate and I've sent them traffic since 2014. I found a major change that removed a huge amount of revenue from the Revenue Share program and wondering if others have the same problem.

I reviewed stats for 2025 per domain (I send a lot of domain traffic). It seems they wiped out all of the recurring revenue for long-time users. Any revenue for white labels with recurring revenue is gone, wiped clean. This is revenue that took many years to build.

My revenue is down 82% for the same period before these changes.

Isn't this the whole point of a rev-share program? Long term revenue. I feel like I just got robbed of thousands per pay period.

Is anyone else having this problem? I can't be the only one.


Have you been an active affiliate? Some programs won't pay your revshare if you don't send new sales after certain time. I know it's crazy but usually listed in the terms.

TurboB 06-09-2025 10:42 PM

What says Chaturbate support?

My stats:

Users from 2017 that registered under my aff link on chaturbate.com, and now uses chaturbate.com directly (without my aff link) - I am credited.

Users from 2017 that registered directly on my whitelabels and now uses them - I am credited.

natkejs 06-10-2025 01:45 AM

Seeing less sales cause I'm a loser but still have loyal customers on CB from 10 years back so can't complain there.

Speigelau 06-10-2025 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376099)
I am a Chaturbate affiliate and I've sent them traffic since 2014. I found a major change that removed a huge amount of revenue from the Revenue Share program and wondering if others have the same problem.

I reviewed stats for 2025 per domain (I send a lot of domain traffic). It seems they wiped out all of the recurring revenue for long-time users. Any revenue for white labels with recurring revenue is gone, wiped clean. This is revenue that took many years to build.

My revenue is down 82% for the same period before these changes.

Isn't this the whole point of a rev-share program? Long term revenue. I feel like I just got robbed of thousands per pay period.

Is anyone else having this problem? I can't be the only one.

I've been an affiliate since 2013 and have also sent a lot of domain traffic all to whitelabels. In cb-stats I'm still seeing many daily spends from spenders who signed up in 2014 and 2015, so they definitely have not wiped out recurring revenue for long time users. I send very little new traffic and rely almost entirely on past sign ups to bring in recurring revenue. In making an assertion like that, you're going to have to come up with some solid proof. When looking at the metrics of your account in cb-stats, are you telling me that you get zero new spends from spenders who signed up years ago?

gregdumas 06-10-2025 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by money biz (Post 23376301)
Have you been an active affiliate? Some programs won't pay your revshare if you don't send new sales after certain time. I know it's crazy but usually listed in the terms.

1. That's not listed in their terms.
2. This is recurring revenue that was received until the recent changes in affiliate tracking.

My opinion? This is an attempt to keep all the past recurring revenue. When my recurring revenue is more than 80%, then it's a significant amount if think of all the affiliates who have been impacted by this change.

Revenue share is for as long as that affiliate ID is generating revenue. Otherwise, PPS is the other option.

gregdumas 06-10-2025 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 23376372)
I've been an affiliate since 2013 and have also sent a lot of domain traffic all to whitelabels. In cb-stats I'm still seeing many daily spends from spenders who signed up in 2014 and 2015, so they definitely have not wiped out recurring revenue for long time users. I send very little new traffic and rely almost entirely on past sign ups to bring in recurring revenue. In making an assertion like that, you're going to have to come up with some solid proof. When looking at the metrics of your account in cb-stats, are you telling me that you get zero new spends from spenders who signed up years ago?

How's this? The affiliate IDs in this example were receiving revenue until they made the changes. Now, these affiliate IDs don't even show up in the stats. This literally happening from one month to another month.

https://gec.d.pr/i/Yhn9pA

gregdumas 06-10-2025 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboB (Post 23376342)
What says Chaturbate support?

My stats:

Users from 2017 that registered under my aff link on chaturbate.com, and now uses chaturbate.com directly (without my aff link) - I am credited.

Users from 2017 that registered directly on my whitelabels and now uses them - I am credited.

Then what I am seeing is an anomoly? They won't respond to messages and support is clueless.

Can you recommend anyone for a good contact there?

ross bleustein 06-10-2025 08:28 AM

same here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376423)
Then what I am seeing is an anomoly? They won't respond to messages and support is clueless.

Can you recommend anyone for a good contact there?


@greg- I'm with you pal, my revenue down 80% alsoi, over 8 years pushing thousands of registrations
I even had a monster day, so happy until chargeback

Us affiliates took a big one up the poop shoot


[email protected]

gregdumas 06-10-2025 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross bleustein (Post 23376429)
@greg- I'm with you pal, my revenue down 80% alsoi, over 8 years pushing thousands of registrations
I even had a monster day, so happy until chargeback

Us affiliates took a big one up the poop shoot


[email protected]

Have you spoke to anyone at Chaturbate? No one responds to anything. I even sent a strongly worded email to legal@ and still nothing.

I think it's a sh*tshow when a top cam company can't respond to affiliates.

I don't know what more to do than look for other options, which sucks because I've had white labels there since 2014.

2intense 06-10-2025 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376448)
Have you spoke to anyone at Chaturbate? No one responds to anything. I even sent a strongly worded email to legal@ and still nothing.

I think it's a sh*tshow when a top cam company can't respond to affiliates.

I don't know what more to do than look for other options, which sucks because I've had white labels there since 2014.

They dominate the SERP; they don't give a fuck about affiliates until they get a big hit from google.

mechanicvirus 06-10-2025 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376448)
Have you spoke to anyone at Chaturbate? No one responds to anything. I even sent a strongly worded email to legal@ and still nothing.

I think it's a sh*tshow when a top cam company can't respond to affiliates.

I don't know what more to do than look for other options, which sucks because I've had white labels there since 2014.

Why not switch to cambuilder if you prefer whitelabels?

WiredGuy 06-10-2025 12:06 PM

Hey Greg, long time, hope you've been well.

I've been sending traffic to Chaturbate for my unsold traffic for the past 5 years, direct to CB, no whitelabels. I'm not seeing a major drop and looking at the individual CSV transactions I'm seeing customers that joined as far back as 2020 who are still actively recurring. I'm unsure if the issue pertains to WL's specifically, but my stats seem ok.

WG

Speigelau 06-10-2025 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376422)
How's this? The affiliate IDs in this example were receiving revenue until they made the changes. Now, these affiliate IDs don't even show up in the stats. This literally happening from one month to another month.

https://gec.d.pr/i/Yhn9pA

That image doesn't represent anything. It shows no dates, no time frames, how is anyone supposed to derive anything from it? I see one list of totals and then another, is that period over period? I asked you a specific question about your spends and you didn't answer. If there was a dramatic change recently, what date do you believe these changes took place?

The only concerning thing for me is my #1 spender who has spent in excess of 140k for the last 6 years, stopped spending 60 days ago. He has never gone that long without a spend before. I do have other spenders in my top ten who signed up over 10 years ago who are still spending.

TurboB 06-10-2025 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376423)
Then what I am seeing is an anomoly? They won't respond to messages and support is clueless.

Can you recommend anyone for a good contact there?

Here you can't reach anyone from Chaturbate, but I heard you can try ambercutie.com forums and contact member "punker barbie" there.

GoCastaway 06-10-2025 01:18 PM

There are strange things going on at CB, that's for sure.

But why start this treat as we have this one for CB??

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...erage-190.html

gregdumas 06-10-2025 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 23376515)
That image doesn't represent anything. It shows no dates, no time frames, how is anyone supposed to derive anything from it? I see one list of totals and then another, is that period over period? I asked you a specific question about your spends and you didn't answer. If there was a dramatic change recently, what date do you believe these changes took place?

The only concerning thing for me is my #1 spender who has spent in excess of 140k for the last 6 years, stopped spending 60 days ago. He has never gone that long without a spend before. I do have other spenders in my top ten who signed up over 10 years ago who are still spending.

It was just an example to show 0 traffic with an affiliate ID and revenue associated with it. I wasn't intending on giving any context other than that. It's not necessary to understand the problem. The point I am trying to make is that the revenue you see in that example doesn't exist anymore and those affiliate IDs are $0. That's strange.

gregdumas 06-10-2025 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23376502)
Hey Greg, long time, hope you've been well.

I've been sending traffic to Chaturbate for my unsold traffic for the past 5 years, direct to CB, no whitelabels. I'm not seeing a major drop and looking at the individual CSV transactions I'm seeing customers that joined as far back as 2020 who are still actively recurring. I'm unsure if the issue pertains to WL's specifically, but my stats seem ok.

WG

Hey back, long time for sure. I am still here....

I don't know what's going on over at CB but I am starting to explore other options. I am getting such a mix of replies that I can't determine anything.

gregdumas 06-10-2025 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus (Post 23376455)
Why not switch to cambuilder if you prefer whitelabels?

I am starting some tests with them now. I have a lot of domains so white labels are easy for me.

fuzebox 06-10-2025 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376448)
I think it's a sh*tshow when a top cam company can't respond to affiliates.

I have been posting about this for at least 8 years, CB has never demonstrated that they care about affiiliates.

WiredGuy 06-10-2025 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376542)
Hey back, long time for sure. I am still here....

I don't know what's going on over at CB but I am starting to explore other options. I am getting such a mix of replies that I can't determine anything.

I tried to diversify with CamBuilder at the start of the year but it was nothing but problems. Their XML tracking didn't work for several weeks and two test campaigns had terrible results. Sad to say there haven't been many good alternatives lately.
WG

Speigelau 06-10-2025 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23376541)
It was just an example to show 0 traffic with an affiliate ID and revenue associated with it. I wasn't intending on giving any context other than that. It's not necessary to understand the problem. The point I am trying to make is that the revenue you see in that example doesn't exist anymore and those affiliate IDs are $0. That's strange.

Its not strange if you don't provide any context. How many monthly unique spenders on each whitelabel made up that revenue? If you don't understand your stats then how can you figure out the issue? How can you say it's not necessary to understand the problem? You've asserted that chaturbate has made a drastic change in the way they count affiliate's revshare. If you can't articulate the problem other than saying your stats are zero then how do you expect anyone to believe your accusation.

2 spenders could have made up 90% of that period revenue, once they leave then revenue drops to zero. If you told me that you averaged 30 unique spenders each month across all your whitelabels and then suddenly it went to zero by showing a screenshot of cb-stats, then you'd definitely have proof that something occurred outside the norm.

Christianx 06-11-2025 08:48 AM

this is the same thing OnlyFans did a few years ago. They were giving people 5 percent revenue for life if you signed someone up to onlyfans. Then they realized that everyone who what onlyfans was and they didnt need affiliates and that lifetime revenue went down to 5percent for the first year or 50,000 total whichever came first.

Chaturbate is just following the OnlyFans lead on this

LouiseLloyd 06-11-2025 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christianx (Post 23376818)
this is the same thing OnlyFans did a few years ago. They were giving people 5 percent revenue for life if you signed someone up to onlyfans. Then they realized that everyone who what onlyfans was and they didnt need affiliates and that lifetime revenue went down to 5percent for the first year or 50,000 total whichever came first.

Chaturbate is just following the OnlyFans lead on this

Chaturbate haven't changed their revshare agreement?

I am still seeing revshare from signups a decade ago.

mechanicvirus 06-11-2025 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 23376846)
Chaturbate haven't changed their revshare agreement?

I am still seeing revshare from signups a decade ago.

This thread is full of amazing fan fiction. "Chaturbate is just doing what the Dutch East India company did in 1750! Open your eyes people!"

LouiseLloyd 06-11-2025 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus (Post 23376853)
This thread is full of amazing fan fiction. "Chaturbate is just doing what the Dutch East India company did in 1750! Open your eyes people!"

I am not disputing that there certainly appears to be issues, well the number of claims back that up, but having never used whitelabel as a promo method I am not seeing anything that backs up the claim that revshare terms have changed…

Yesterday my biggest spender was from 2016!

I think the tracking switchover may have resulted in some issues. I too have vented my frustration in this thread, but to make a claim the CB is doing an OF and the terms of the revshare program have changed, I'm sorry my stats don't substantiate that claim.

If I do see this, I will certainly have the bottle to come here and say it's true.

Shoplifter 06-11-2025 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus (Post 23376853)
This thread is full of amazing fan fiction. "Chaturbate is just doing what the Dutch East India company did in 1750! Open your eyes people!"

Yeah and that's an issue because there is no one who is really able to provide a compelling argument as to what the problem is. At best I am able to say there is a problem in some regards:

If I go and look at my last xxx number of transactions the only older sales I see are not from white labels, their tracking is for the Chaturbate domain itself. All of my recurring white label spenders disappeared after February and I only have very recent spenders there.

At the end of April all of the engaged hits for White Labels ceased being recorded.

As of the end of April the raw traffic has not been counted fully on my white labels.

I made a post about this last month here and contacted Chaturbate support.

I see this as factual, but what conclusion can be drawn from it is a different matter.

emmasexytime 06-11-2025 02:35 PM

To test this you would need to have a whitelabel that has had many sign ups in the past, now not be a whitelabel, so you could assume if any sales there were now being done through chaturbate .com

Sometimes people think the real site is the whitelabel so would never know about chaturbate, but there would be some that end up on chaturbate. Wouldn't they still have the same log in details on chaturbate as their old whitelabel login?

mopek1 06-13-2025 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23376502)

I've been sending traffic to Chaturbate for my unsold traffic for the past 5 years, direct to CB, no whitelabels.

Is this targeted webcam traffic or just general adult traffic?

Jman 06-13-2025 06:33 AM

Hey Greg, hope you are well. I've been trying to get in touch with you. Do you have TG?

lemonlinx 06-13-2025 11:10 AM

If I sign in to Chaturbate with my account, I can also sign in with that account on my whitelabels, it works without any issues


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