I've left the adult biz in 2011 except for adult dating, and I left that this year when AFF pulled their stupid bullshit. I have been going through my old domains, I discover a chaturbate whitelabel thats been running for quite a while so I check the stats today...
Yeah fuck Chaturbate
I'll send that half a million hits somewhere else
Last weekend I found my White Labels were not having traffic counted properly, emailed support and then got the "ups and downs" email back.
Last weekend I found my White Labels were not having traffic counted properly, emailed support and then got the "ups and downs" email back.
Here still the same, there must be something wrong.
I also don't understand the Engaged hits. At the stats of Mr Pheer i see the same raw/engaged until april 28, here from the time that CB changed the stats almost every day 0 Engaged, sometimes 1-2 or 3 and that's it.
Stripchat I imagine? That's where everyone else is sending them. Well, everyone I read about in a few different forums.
Nah I'm done with adult. I've got plenty of other sites I can just redirect it to.
I have a hobby blog where I post the bullshit that the GFY stalker scrapper/jesus h christ/Mark Osterholt does to people online, I may just dump it there. I'm sure Mark will love it.
Your CTR is 0%. Nobody is clicking your cb affiliate links, that's what the 0s mean.
I don't know any programs that plant a cookie on page load, they all require user engagement.
I don't think that's the case. I think they're not tracking engaged hits on whitelabels. Here are recent stats for one of my whitelabels. I'm getting free signups daily but not a single engaged hit counted.
I don't think that's the case. I think they're not tracking engaged hits on whitelabels. Here are recent stats for one of my whitelabels. I'm getting free signups daily but not a single engaged hit counted.
Same situation here. I gather they are not bothering to count engaged on white labels, either by choice or accident. I have WL's doing signups and sales with no engaged hits at all.
The big problem I found was that raw was not being counted properly either. I have white labels fed with thousands of hits and as well being tested via many machines and showing nothing.
Same situation here. I gather they are not bothering to count engaged on white labels, either by choice or accident. I have WL's doing signups and sales with no engaged hits at all.
The big problem I found was that raw was not being counted properly either. I have white labels fed with thousands of hits and as well being tested via many machines and showing nothing.
WL1:
WL2 with thousands of raw hits:
It looks like the counting is still a big mess...
Here also enough raw hits but almost or 0 engaged. That's why i don't understand where the engaged hits come from?
Prior to April 28th, your raw visits matched your unique visits, it's like none of the visitors you referred hang around. This could be bot behaviour, that would explain the 0 engagement post April 28th.
Per the sign-ups, I'm not sure but since email is optional it would be easy for bots to simulate that as well. Also, sign-ups are delayed, they could be from an old visitor so it's hard to correlate with the day's number of visits.
Originally posted by KrisKross
I don't think that's the case. I think they're not tracking engaged hits on whitelabels. Here are recent stats for one of my whitelabels. I'm getting free signups daily but not a single engaged hit counted.
My earnings were fairly consistent in the last few weeks, maybe 3 months, till the 20th of May. Not a single signup or sale since then.
Since May 20th, my sales have been only one third of the previous average, and the number of registrations is normal. I think their statistics must have been adjusted greatly. I hope to return to normal as soon as possible.
Since May 20th, my sales have been only one third of the previous average, and the number of registrations is normal. I think their statistics must have been adjusted greatly. I hope to return to normal as soon as possible.
Now that I’ve written my message, I suddenly made two sales — $4.20 and $2.43.
Anyway, one of my referred webmasters started doing really well in May. I got $12 in the first pay period of May, and $12 so far in the second, lol.
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Prior to April 28th, your raw visits matched your unique visits, it's like none of the visitors you referred hang around. This could be bot behaviour, that would explain the 0 engagement post April 28th.
Per the sign-ups, I'm not sure but since email is optional it would be easy for bots to simulate that as well. Also, sign-ups are delayed, they could be from an old visitor so it's hard to correlate with the day's number of visits.
None of what you're saying makes sense. Unless Chaturbate previously deviated from the nearly 30 year standard of tracking raw vs unique clicks, raw matching unique does not mean that none of the visitors hung around.
At least 3-4 others here have reported the same experience with engaged hits showing 0 on their whitelabels. To suggest that all of us are sending 100% bot traffic is absurd. Also, I redirected a small amount of traffic from my whitelabel to the pay-per-registration program and I see engaged hits being tracked there.
Occam's Razor and all. Are you sending traffic to a whitelabel and seeing engaged hits?
btw I don't mean to offend anyone nor do I pretend my explanation is the right one, I am merely trying to make sense of those stats and reacting to the the recent change.
I believe what I said was sound reasoning though. Engaged users don't just open one page, they browse and they come back. Check out Sarettah' screenshot a few pages back : raw is higher than unique prior to April 28th and that translates into engagements post April 28th.
My take is that raw=unique is not a good sign. They are not necessarily bots, they could be popunders firing : prior to Apr 28th hits were counted on page load.
Like I said I could be wrong.
Originally posted by KrisKross
None of what you're saying makes sense. Unless Chaturbate previously deviated from the nearly 30 year standard of tracking raw vs unique clicks, raw matching unique does not mean that none of the visitors hung around.
At least 3-4 others here have reported the same experience with engaged hits showing 0 on their whitelabels. To suggest that all of us are sending 100% bot traffic is absurd. Also, I redirected a small amount of traffic from my whitelabel to the pay-per-registration program and I see engaged hits being tracked there.
Occam's Razor and all. Are you sending traffic to a whitelabel and seeing engaged hits?
btw I don't mean to offend anyone nor do I pretend my explanation is the right one, I am merely trying to make sense of those stats and reacting to the the recent change.
I believe what I said was sound reasoning though. Engaged users don't just open one page, they browse and they come back. Check out Sarettah' screenshot a few pages back : raw is higher than unique prior to April 28th and that translates into engagements post April 28th.
My take is that raw=unique is not a good sign. They are not necessarily bots, they could be popunders firing : prior to Apr 28th hits were counted on page load.
Like I said I could be wrong.
You're trying to explain my traffic to me. You're making assumptions, I'm telling you they're wrong and yet you're still continuing. I'm not offended, just confused as to what your endgame is here.
Let me be clear here: this is not bot traffic, nor popunder traffic. This is the same traffic I've been sending for nearly 14 years. And when I redirect some of this traffic directly to Chaturbate instead of through a whitelabel, engaged hits get counted. So it is pretty clear that something is up with their counting for whitelabel sites.
In sarettah's post, he mentions that he's redirecting all his traffic to Chaturbate. It doesn't sound like he's using a whitelabel, but I'll let him confirm that.
Kriskross may be right,
oost April 28th my white label would have 0 engaged hits but have registrations, wouldn’t registration count as engagement?!?
Kriskross may be right,
oost April 28th my white label would have 0 engaged hits but have registrations, wouldn’t registration count as engagement?!?
Certainly that's the assumption. But without any clarity at all from Chaturbate there is no way to know. I would like to at least know the reasoning for not counting engaged on the WL sites. I gather it saves a lot of resources to forego this.
The more pressing issue that I have is an incorrect count of raw traffic on WL sites. I am testing with a WL on a major domain of mine that supports an aggregator site. On the day I was checking it the stats it showed 1 raw hit which was inexplicable.
Certainly that's the assumption. But without any clarity at all from Chaturbate there is no way to know. I would like to at least know the reasoning for not counting engaged on the WL sites. I gather it saves a lot of resources to forego this.
The more pressing issue that I have is an incorrect count of raw traffic on WL sites. I am testing with a WL on a major domain of mine that supports an aggregator site. On the day I was checking it the stats it showed 1 raw hit which was inexplicable.
Could it be the linking code you are using? I was having an issue with my white labels and the postbacks not showing tracking or sid until I changed the campaign parameter to the one associated with the white label.
Could it be the linking code you are using? I was having an issue with my white labels and the postbacks not showing tracking or sid until I changed the campaign parameter to the one associated with the white label.
I'm experimenting today with a tour code that sends traffic to the top room on the White Label. I'll see what that does.
I'm experimenting today with a tour code that sends traffic to the top room on the White Label. I'll see what that does.
I would change the campaign code, thats what worked for me. To get the correct code go to your white label and scroll down to the bottom and copy the "Affiliate Program" link in the footer. Use the same campaign code as that link.
Thats what I had to do to get my post backs to work correctly. They used to come in blank without tracking and sid. My stats show engaged hits for white labels too. Not sure if this will work for you but it is worth a shot.
I figured it out on my own. I tried emailing support about the post back issue and this is the response I got:
Thank you for your question. Using your whitelabel’s domain is not a supported use of CB affiliate promo tools. To avoid potential issues, we recommend against using your whitelabel’s domain as we cannot guarantee it’s functionality in all cases. Please let us know if you have any further questions for us.
The Chaturbate Team
I would change the campaign code, thats what worked for me. To get the correct code go to your white label and scroll down to the bottom and copy the "Affiliate Program" link in the footer. Use the same campaign code as that link.
I'm trying this out on a couple of scripts today. I don't know if older scripts like Robo will send a campaign code if you use a white label.
Not sure it matters though? We are still getting free registrations on our whitelabel domains that are using through API sites. Even though 0 engaged hits.
Not sure it matters though? We are still getting free registrations on our whitelabel domains that are using through API sites. Even though 0 engaged hits.
If you are using iframe and embed cam from your white label I would also put the the same campaign parameter from your white label. I was using the default campaign parameter and none of the tracking like track= and sid= would come through when a user signed up.
I attached an image from my stats from yesterday from one of my white labels. You can see the different tours show engaged hits, except for "Whitelabel Domain Based Tracking" doesn't show any engaged hits. I am not sure why some show up as "Whitelabel Domain Based Tracking" as they have the same tracking code as some other tours.
Anything new , goes to Stripcash, chaturbate forgot its affiliates
Stripchat will soon experience the same AV problems as Chaturbate!
Google "Stripchat News" and then you can imagine when your spenders will disappear there!
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our earnings are back
since april 28 we went from
250 average daily with one 0 day in two years.
to 30 average daily with five 0 days in 1 month.
since a week its back to 300 with all missing regular spenders returning at the same day.
clearly something went wrong since the new tracking implementation. that messed up regular spender tracking (at least in out account)
I have gotten neither confirmation nor denial from CB that something was wrong.
The only reply i have gotten is that "they were looking into it" when contacting them about our earnings
our earnings are back
since april 28 we went from
250 average daily with one 0 day in two years.
to 30 average daily with five 0 days in 1 month.
since a week its back to 300 with all missing regular spenders returning at the same day.
clearly something went wrong since the new tracking implementation. that messed up regular spender tracking (at least in out account)
I have gotten neither confirmation nor denial from CB that something was wrong.
The only reply i have gotten is that "they were looking into it" when contacting them about our earnings
What did you email them? I'm having same issues so if you could tell me what you wrote it would be a big help
I have gotten neither confirmation nor denial from CB that something was wrong.
The only reply i have gotten is that "they were looking into it" when contacting them about our earnings
I got the "ups and downs" reply a couple of times. I didn't even get a ticket number back for the last couple of support emails.
I don't know about anybody else but my May came out ok.
Quite the spike! Looks like your best month ever - congrats
I can't remember if you're still actively generating traffic or if this is just residuals - if it's the former, did you do anything differently? Or just ended up with one or two whales spending more than usual?
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