jeff at perfectiongirls is a liar and a cheat
 

I originally was emailed by jeff at perfectiongirls saying he loved my site - karendreams.com. He said he has nearly 2000 affiliates and would be able to bring my site to 50 sales a day, from about 10-12 sales a day.

after some talking we moved the site over and there have been problems from day one. he has failed to live up to all his original promises, and he thought i was going to leave yesterday, so without contacting me decided to put a full page ad up for brittany blu on my site - stealing all my traffic and all my affiliates traffic.

also.. jeff you owe me $2800 from a shitty months sales, you lied about wiring it to me - unless wires take 2 weeks now, and you have cheated me out of sales and given me a fuckload of stress over the past two months.

also as for emailing all your affiliates to tell them i am a cheat - heres a little somethign for all your affiliates to read:

(something like what he said to me, sadly i dont have the log..)

a1ka1ine: im not happy with how you are dealing with affiliates, and popping up sites without their codes, i want to remove the popups we were making more sales before.
jeff: fuck affiliates, you are in this to make you money not them.

before you email all your affiliates telling them im stealing.. i thought id let out whats on my mind.

Thats pretty shitty dude...You better get paid so we can party in Montreal.

What a fucking schmuck! I'm pulling my galleries to all Perfection Girls sites now.

Ohhh shit. This will be good.

What's the deal Jeff? Care to respond? I was just working on putting this on my site but I think I'll hold off now.

Let's hear it.

I got the popcorn

I normally stay out of the drama threads but in this case, James is a friend of mine and i think he should get his money if that was the deal.

Oh and Ive also heard he likes to delete peoples accounts when they disagree with him on message boards. Ah well it converted like shit anyway.

The money sucks but it isn't what's sticking out right now.

The FPA for Britney Blu has my jaw dropped.

ouch. thats not a good way to do business.

i got the popcorn..now im ready for the show:BangBang:

lukie your talkin about perfectiongirls.. jeff deleted one of my friends accounts too - because jeff didnt like his attitude.

:glugglug

At least he was honest :1orglaugh

:321GFY

if affiliates don't make money, they take their traffic elsewhere.

Ah well, I know PerfectionGirls used to post here quite a bit. Pretty fucked up.

Cheers,
Matt

:eek7

Popcorn anybody, get your popcorn

I'd like to point out jeff at perfectiongirls is not a person to do business with.

I was a very early affiliate, and from the start his methods weren't very logical. He released paysites with minimal content and the worlds worst graphics in the tours. He refused to have the tour graphics fixed which any halfwit could have done for him. He didn't update the members area's the whole time i had access which was a month or two despite having inside the members area a schedule of updates that should have been occuring. Obviously there weren't many rebills happening because of that.

To top it off he finally deactivated my affiliate account in ccbill after I publicly pointed out (at this board actually) about a month ago that he still had many very blurry thumbs & images in his previews that would obviously be better to replace. I also requested that he remove the multitude of popups that he had, or at least offer some sort of tour with popups only to the other sites in his network. He refused and deactivated me, saying it wasn't possible for him to remove the popups!

I understand popups are normal, however when I complained he was popping 2-3 pages on entrance and 99% of the ads were to programs affilates wouldn't be credited with. That's fine on a pps program but on a partnership program that has multiple paysites it's normal to only popup other paysites the affiliate would get credit for.

In closing I'd like to say GO FUCK YOURSELF PERFECTION SHIT, and since you already deactivated my account there's not a damn thing stopping me from posting the truth everywhere I go! HA

Another dead beat call out on GFY -- Stay Tuned! Does your aggreement with Perfection Girls also make the same promises?

hmm

Well, that's one side to the story, I'll wait for Jeff to reply before making any actions.

WG

He pulled a similar stunt on a friend of mine.

Yep I'd also like to see how it is possible to cover up actions such as these.

Its one thing to have a disagreement with a partner but its too far when you block their access and make your affiliates lose money by putting a full page ad to your other site.

I am not taking any sides here, but I have always liked Jeff.

Jeff had called me a few minutes ago about a matter unrelated to this thread and I mentioned it to him, he is out of town right now and does not currently have access to a computer. I mentioned what I saw and he seemed anxious to respond as soon as he finds a terminal with unrestrained internet access.

weird. let's hear his side of the story.

:ugone2far

You're right, we should all hear both sides before coming to any conlusions. Still, I think it is significant that within 30 minutes of this post being made, half a dozen people have already popped up to support what a1ka1ine said.

SpaceAce

ya that raises a ton of questions.

Maybe its because quite a lot of people have/do promote his sites? I have galleries on sites and am now sending traffic to his sponsor without getting credit. Wouldn't that piss you off?!

was it always like that? or did he change it recently?

i dont expect anyone to pull anything because of just what ive said, im interested myself to hear how jeff defends himself.

ive calmed down a bit now.. i was choking with rage in my first post in this thread..
:mad:

im on the phone with ccbill.. then i have to re-upload my members areas and change all the codes, then email all my partners making sure they get credit for their traffic. its going to be a long night...

He added a full page ad yesterday on a paysite I was sending traffic to which only he gets credit for.

thats just bad

no kidding, i think its ironic that he is going to accuse me of stealing traffic by changing back to my servers when he put up an ad which nobody gets credit for. that was a stupid mistake on his part which is not going to win him popularity with affiliates

Ohhhh anyone has time to hear my experiences with jeff???

Go for it...

do it man

:321GFY Lets Fuck Jeff !

a note to all.. this is NOT me.. hah - comic. :-) first time ive smiled all day.

very interesting.
ive got the popcorn in the microwave as we speak.
:winkwink:

'You're a liar and a cheat'
'I only lied about being a cheat.'


...or sumthing like dat...
:glugglug

He also fucked me over... And I tried to help him from the begining... From the moment... he first came out.. I told him I could have my people redesign his sites.. for a fraction of what anyone else would do it..so he could get started..

So for those who doubt the post against him.. I can back them up 100% cuz it happened to me..

I want to read as to what does he have to say....

Fuck... I never wrote what happened..

Well bascially the same shit.. that happened to.. LukieD.... He put a full page ad to Tawnee on the front page of the paysite of which obviously ONLY he was getting credit for.. And the funny thing was that.. it magically happened the day I got listed on the hun and sent him ( what ccbill said ) over 11.000 hits!

I was fucking livid.. and he offered to give me all the sign ups.. he made to Tawnee... I was so mad I started cracking up... He stopped offering that once I asked for a user/pass to the lightspeed stats.. and to pay $40 a sign up ( since i dunno who would stay for a month or 6 )

I'm not one to put personal icq messages but if they are needed to prove the fact that he fucked me over...

Oh well.. there is always someone who will try to get rich by fucking people over..

So it wasn't just me that complained about the lack of design skills?! Yet he insists on being a cock about it, you'd think with all these people pointing out problems he'd adjust, but no he'll just keep doing the same dumb shit until he runs out of affiliates to screw then I'm guessing he'll go away.

Shit .. even after he fucked me over.. and when he came up with brittany's site.. I posted some shit.. that kind of made him look dumb.. and he privately asked me to remove it and I did..

Sometimes Im too fucking nice.. :(

Maaaan.. Ray Charles.. could design a better site than those at the begining....

I am somewhat of a "n00bie" here, but I also was intrgiued by Brittany Blu's site so I wanted to promote it.. I didnt give him a chance to "fuck me over", but I didnt promote it long for the fact that the pics were blurry, and it looked like a 3yr old kid designed it...

he said, they wanted the design done that way.... how sad:Graucho