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LukieD 05-21-2003 01:44 PM

fiddy...

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by easyjesus
I am somewhat of a "n00bie" here, but I also was intrgiued by Brittany Blu's site so I wanted to promote it.. I didnt give him a chance to "fuck me over", but I didnt promote it long for the fact that the pics were blurry, and it looked like a 3yr old kid designed it...

he said, they wanted the design done that way.... how sad:Graucho

hey dude - your in fort worth? in the uk there was a tv programme about a big porn guy that made some big mistakes where you are and got jailed :-S

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 01:50 PM

urgh theres nothing more i can do tonite until my partner gets back...

so im gonna party with a few friends, namely jack, daniel, ben, and jerry.

sherie 05-21-2003 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by a1ka1ine
urgh theres nothing more i can do tonite until my partner gets back...

so im gonna party with a few friends, namely jack, daniel, ben, and jerry.

JD and B&J is not a great mixture:repuke

easyjesus 05-21-2003 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by a1ka1ine


hey dude - your in fort worth? in the uk there was a tv programme about a big porn guy that made some big mistakes where you are and got jailed :-S

yea, not far from me.. I believe it was kiddie porn....

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by easyjesus


yea, not far from me.. I believe it was kiddie porn....

yeh.. it was on tv. the guy pleaded innocent and claimed to do nothing wrong. he had a few ppl work for him tho.. i dont know how he managed to employ ppl :-s

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sherie
JD and B&J is not a great mixture:repuke
you the same sherie from pib board?

yeh my stomach is telling me "hey! im full of acid and sugar and dont like this!"

urghhh

sherie 05-21-2003 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by a1ka1ine


you the same sherie from pib board?

yeh my stomach is telling me "hey! im full of acid and sugar and dont like this!"

urghhh

Why yes I am =) See same name and sig ;)

And that could be a volitile mixture I am sure of it...stick to one or the other LOL

eroswebmaster 05-21-2003 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by easyjesus


yea, not far from me.. I believe it was kiddie porn....


Fort Worth? Born and raised in Foat Wuth...in Vegas now but maintain a presence there :)

Gradgiated from Martin in Arlington, however went to Eastern Hills from my freshman year through Junior year.

easyjesus 05-21-2003 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster



Fort Worth? Born and raised in Foat Wuth...in Vegas now but maintain a presence there :)

Gradgiated from Martin in Arlington, however went to Eastern Hills from my freshman year through Junior year.

SWEET... I know where thse places are. Good friend of mind graduated from Martin, and U cant live in Fort Worth and not here about Eastern Hills...

Snapper 05-21-2003 03:04 PM

If we all wait a minute or two, I'm sure we'll start hearing that Jeff was standing on the grassy Knoll in Dallas too.

amazing how much time we all spend crying over spilled milk.

Must be annoying to get ripped off, but that's kind of part of doing business though

Lykos 05-21-2003 03:06 PM

I don't know anything about Jeff couse i am preety new here probably,but i can say very good words for a1ka1ine.
When i start to produce content i got order from him.He paid me 5000$ in advance not even asking me a single word.I was really shocked when he done that...But he is very honest player here,not many like him,he helped me much with that order,and he always not pay on time,he pay before time:)Always pay on time,and first order of 5k$ he sents me and even didn't know me at all,and i live in other part of world.I can say only that he is one great guy and great honest person and great friend:thumbsup
And he will always have my trust and support,
Seee u baddy soon on CC Generals on-line:)
All besto for a1ka1ine
:thumbsup

FlyingIguana 05-21-2003 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snapper
If we all wait a minute or two, I'm sure we'll start hearing that Jeff was standing on the grassy Knoll in Dallas too.

amazing how much time we all spend crying over spilled milk.

Must be annoying to get ripped off, but that's kind of part of doing business though

its good to know you can trust and who you can't. if i got ripped off i think other people would like to know as well so that it doesnt happen to them.

Snapper 05-21-2003 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana


its good to know you can trust and who you can't. if i got ripped off i think other people would like to know as well so that it doesnt happen to them.

oh, I understand dude. I also think some people settle personal issues by lying on the boards though, so until I hear the whole story, I take everything with a grain of salt. I'm not about to run out and kick Jeff's ass off this thread, know what I mean?

FlyingIguana 05-21-2003 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snapper


oh, I understand dude. I also think some people settle personal issues by lying on the boards though, so until I hear the whole story, I take everything with a grain of salt. I'm not about to run out and kick Jeff's ass off this thread, know what I mean?

well it seems like more than just one person was affected. doesn't look good for him.

LukieD 05-21-2003 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snapper
Must be annoying to get ripped off, but that's kind of part of doing business though
Its not just annoying but you have EVERY RIGHT to do something about it if you get ripped. I'd like to know if someone I was doing business with was ripping off other people.

Libertine 05-21-2003 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Gradgiated from Martin in Arlington

Living For Today 05-21-2003 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lykos
I don't know anything about Jeff couse i am preety new here probably,but i can say very good words for a1ka1ine.
When i start to produce content i got order from him.He paid me 5000$ in advance not even asking me a single word.I was really shocked when he done that...But he is very honest player here,not many like him,he helped me much with that order,and he always not pay on time,he pay before time:)Always pay on time,and first order of 5k$ he sents me and even didn't know me at all,and i live in other part of world.I can say only that he is one great guy and great honest person and great friend:thumbsup
And he will always have my trust and support,
Seee u baddy soon on CC Generals on-line:)
All besto for a1ka1ine
:thumbsup

Ever since he's been with perfectiongirls its been nothing but bullshit. I don't really know the perfectiongirls guy but he sounds like a fucking kunt.

Good luck in getting your money alkaline :thumbsup

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lykos
I don't know anything about Jeff couse i am preety new here probably,but i can say very good words for a1ka1ine.
When i start to produce content i got order from him.He paid me 5000$ in advance not even asking me a single word.I was really shocked when he done that...But he is very honest player here,not many like him,he helped me much with that order,and he always not pay on time,he pay before time:)Always pay on time,and first order of 5k$ he sents me and even didn't know me at all,and i live in other part of world.I can say only that he is one great guy and great honest person and great friend:thumbsup
And he will always have my trust and support,
Seee u baddy soon on CC Generals on-line:)
All besto for a1ka1ine
:thumbsup

ok that was a little bit over the top lykos but i appreciate the thought ;-) :-D

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Living For Today


Ever since he's been with perfectiongirls its been nothing but bullshit. I don't really know the perfectiongirls guy but he sounds like a fucking kunt.

Good luck in getting your money alkaline :thumbsup


you know? when he sent me the threatening email i thought "fucking hahahaha". i thought it was a british thing.. i guess in ozland you spell it with a k ;-)

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 03:50 PM

wtf????? i cant say hahahaha??????

:-o :eek7

s0laris2 05-21-2003 04:01 PM

Hello All.

I am A1ka1ine's Partner. I am quite shocked/surprised that this has been something that has affected so many people in the past.

I am surprised no one has said anything in the Past. I hope this will all be resolved quickly and that everyone is paid their fair share of the revenue. Especially the affiliates. Without you guys/gals it makes it impossible to grow any sites.

Thanks for the support. I am curious as to what Jeff has to say too. I think things just did not work out as planned.

Snapper 05-21-2003 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by s0laris2
Hello All.

I am A1ka1ine's Partner. I am quite shocked/surprised that this has been something that has affected so many people in the past.

I am surprised no one has said anything in the Past. I hope this will all be resolved quickly and that everyone is paid their fair share of the revenue. Especially the affiliates. Without you guys/gals it makes it impossible to grow any sites.

Thanks for the support. I am curious as to what Jeff has to say too. I think things just did not work out as planned.

nice sig and nice site dude:thumbsup

SteveLightspeed 05-21-2003 04:05 PM

I'll throw in my two cents here

I've worked with Jeff at Perfection Girls since he was brand new. I've found him to be an honest and hard working guy.

I know from my own experiences that there are two sides to every story. And I also know that new people in this busines sometimes make mistakes that don't make sense from a more experienced point of view.

Jeff has been through some heavy shit recently, the kind of things that would throw most people off their game.

Its better to work things out privately, because arguing on the boards doesn't help anyone.

Steve Lightspeed

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 04:09 PM

hell we all have lives, and we all go through tough times.

but i tried to contact him daily, as did my partner, and i waited and waited nearly 2 weeks for the promised wire transfers to not go through, when i logged in today to do an update i found out that the account was disabled and then i went to the site and saw that all the traffic was being diverted to his brittany blu site.

he left me no choice but to come here.

besides.. im the one that is going to lose a whole 6 weeks sales to him, im the one that has had my site fucked around with, im the one that is losing money here. jeff has nothing but gained from his relationship with me and mike, like a leech or a virus.

i am glad to be free of him.

i wanted a peaceful resolution too.. had the money been in my bank, and my site wasnt diverting to brittanyblu - i certainly wouldnt have come to the boards.

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snapper


nice sig and nice site dude:thumbsup

mmm id love to be inbetween themm... a nice a1ka1ine sandwich :-)

gothweb 05-21-2003 04:14 PM

I agree with Lightspeed, every story has two sides. (Well, usually three...) Until we hear the other side, it is hard to judge.

I will say that A1kal1ne seems like a good guy to me, and I would be surprised if what he is saying is totally baseless. What happened to him sucks...

Having someone promise (or even predict) a certain level of sales, and then fail to deliver, sucks.

Having a partnership go sour, and cost everyone money, sucks.

Hijacking the traffic, before things were resolved really, really doesn't look good.

I've been through something similar. I think the moral of this story, to anyone watching, should be not to have your site depend entirely on someone else's affiliate program.

a1ka1ine 05-21-2003 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Hijacking the traffic, before things were resolved really, really doesn't look good.
just so everyone knows.. this is a screenshot of my beautiful paysite ruined by a treacherous traitor!!

http://www.jamescox.com/cheater.jpg

jeff says that he was going to email his affiliates to tell them im stealing their traffic- last time i looked i didnt own brittanyblu.com

ive had enough, my fitful sleep begins now.

Dax 05-21-2003 04:34 PM

I kept quiet.. but after noticing i was not the only one he fucked over.. is it worth staying quiet?

So you think that redirecting traffic that is not yours... is a 'newbie' mistake.. when this guy has been talking and dealing with people like yourself??

Like I said.. the moment he tries to say that I am lying or when I see that the logs are needed to clear everything up.. I will bring them up...



Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
I'll throw in my two cents here

I've worked with Jeff at Perfection Girls since he was brand new. I've found him to be an honest and hard working guy.

I know from my own experiences that there are two sides to every story. And I also know that new people in this busines sometimes make mistakes that don't make sense from a more experienced point of view.

Jeff has been through some heavy shit recently, the kind of things that would throw most people off their game.

Its better to work things out privately, because arguing on the boards doesn't help anyone.

Steve Lightspeed


fletcher 05-21-2003 04:41 PM

I'm not Jeff...so I can't respond for him, but I do work very closely with him. There is, obviously, another entire side to this story.

I don't know about all of the interactions between Jeff and you, but I do know that on many occasions there were huge technical difficulties on your end, contract issues with the models, etc. For example, Stacey (one of the sites in question) recently made the decision not to do any new content. And as far I know, Karen was supposed to do nude content but demanded more money to do so after the agreement was made.

Jeff is currently out of town, and I spoke with S0laris about this and made it clear to him. Last time Jeff was expected to be out of town for an extended period of time, the EXACT same issue arose. One of you logged into the Perfection Girls servers, removed all of the content from the sites, and took a copy of the htaccess file then deleted both sites with no warning. This pissed off hundreds of users, and is no way to go about working out situations like this. A simple phone call or heads up would have been all it took to make a smooth transition on our end.

A large majority of the traffic to Karen's front page was our own, hence the FPA to divert affiliates to something they would continue to receive credit for signups on. There was a clearly visible link to Karen's main page, and no other links were changed.

Like I said, I don't know about all of your interactions with Jeff, but I do know that twice now problems have arisen when you've known he'd be out of town. Both of you have his phone number and can easily reach him. Business is simple...it involves communication. I'm sure he would have been able to work something out with you.

Here is a snippet of what we discussed last night:

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Fletch (08:34 PM) :
I'd wait until Friday and talk to him

S0laris® (08:35 PM) :
we are gonna wait

S0laris® (08:36 PM) :
so end of friday the dns switches. and CCbill is gonna fix it all..

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And last time this happened when he was out of town...

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S0laris® (10:00 PM) :
we will resolve this in the morning between all of us. Sometimes it takes a big blow up to come to an uderstanding it seems..

S0laris® (10:51 PM) :
we had a good talk.

S0laris® (10:51 PM) :
tell him to take care..

S0laris® (10:51 PM) :
and this will NEVER happen again

S0laris® (10:51 PM) :
I will be more involved myself.

S0laris® (11:26 PM) :
sorry.. you can meet up with me another day and kick my ass

S0laris® (11:28 PM) :
Like I saidl, you can kick my ass some other day,,

S0laris® (11:29 PM) :
I need a good Boot from last nights episode..

Fletch (11:29 PM) :
Haha. I'll get some thugs right over.

----------

I just do the grunt work, but in my opinion there have been some very irrationial decisions made, both when it was known Jeff wouldn't be around.

Mutt 05-21-2003 04:42 PM

i speak to a1kal1ne fairly often, he's an honest guy, had my doubts about this deal from the beginning. Not because Jeff is bad, i spoke to Jeff, he is not a malicious guy. Though some of this stuff the last day or two ain't pretty.

a1kal1ne has a right to be upset, he thought this move was a step up for his site, didn't turn out that way so he had a right to back out and get what was owed him. I'm aware that Jeff has had some bad stuff happening so maybe some of this relates to that.

and Mish is definitely the hottest chick on the Internet, and she doesn't even take her panties off! :Graucho

sextoyking 05-21-2003 04:48 PM

Mutt,

who is mish??

:)

Mutt 05-21-2003 04:55 PM

here she is Todd


http://www.ledphoto.com/mo/ravon_files/ravon05.jpg

http://www.ledphoto.com/mo/ravon_files/ravon02.jpg

http://www.ledphoto.com/mo/ravon_files/ravon07.jpg

Snapper 05-21-2003 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt


and Mish is definitely the hottest chick on the Internet, and she doesn't even take her panties off! :Graucho

second!

Mutt 05-21-2003 04:57 PM

one more :Graucho

http://www.ledphoto.com/mo/ravon_files/ravon04.jpg

Snapper 05-21-2003 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
one more :Graucho

http://www.ledphoto.com/mo/ravon_files/ravon04.jpg

yummy, and God made two of them? Shows you he does care, doesn't it?

sextoyking 05-21-2003 04:59 PM

Mutt,

she is fine as wine bro :)

never seen her before. does she do content / videos, or just R- rated stuff?

Mutt 05-21-2003 05:02 PM

i believe just R-rated semi-nude but I could be wrong. She's a Quebec girl who is shot beautifully by a guy named Candido.

I sent a1ka1ine to him, thought he'd have something good for him and he did :)

sextoyking 05-21-2003 05:09 PM

Mutt,

thanks for the pics, made my day :)

She is one beautiful gal :thumbsup

psyko514 05-21-2003 06:57 PM

very interesting...

eroswebmaster 05-21-2003 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld

I guess you don't get the joke ;)

I'm from Texas people don't Graduate (yes I know how to spell) they gradgiate.

robfantasy 05-21-2003 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
one more :Graucho

http://www.ledphoto.com/mo/ravon_files/ravon04.jpg

mutt. the girl in ur sig is 10x hotter, is she available for content?
:)

DirtyRider 05-21-2003 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snapper
Must be annoying to get ripped off, but that's kind of part of doing business though
Fuck thats stupid. Doing business with someone shouldn't be about getting ripped off!

Yeah and those 361 pop-ups Jeff had were gay.

phil-flash 05-21-2003 11:21 PM

interesting thread this is...

Living For Today 05-21-2003 11:22 PM

hello phil!

d0odx 05-22-2003 12:20 AM

This is absolute Bullshit.

Fuck this character jeff and all the shadey stories that trail behind him.

I hope i never run across him

a1ka1ine 05-22-2003 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fletcher
I don't know about all of the interactions between Jeff and you
Then maybe you shouldn't be launching an assault against me if you dont know what you are talking about?? I TOLD jeff last week i wanted to move, he knew full well my intentions, i didnt have his phone number as he doesnt have it on his contact details page, doesnt have it on his email signature, and never emailed me with it. after emailing him daily (i mean i know he was in florida - but they do have the Internet right?) with no response and leaving multiple messages i was getting worried, after 4 days with no contact i was very worried. what compounded my worryness was him blocking my account and diverting all my traffic.


Quote:

And as far I know, Karen was supposed to do nude content but demanded more money to do so after the agreement was made.
WE HAD NO FUCKING CONTRACT!

Me and Jeff never signed anything, what happens between me and my models is MY BUSINESS and it was never in the agreement she would go full nude. She never "demanded" more money for nude, it was always going to be a tasteful site, that teases the customers by showing them nearly everything - this was my business model and we said from the start we would not have her fisting herself anally - which you obviously enjoy as you have such a bad anal attitude.

Quote:

A large majority of the traffic to Karen's front page was our own, hence the FPA to divert affiliates to something they would continue to receive credit for signups on. There was a clearly visible link to Karen's main page, and no other links were changed
Ok now this is the funny part. Listen up guys for how good Jeffs traffic really is. In the week prior to moving, net sales after affiliate fees were about $200-$250 a day. When we have been with Jeff, our sales dropped to average net $100-$130 a day. And also - can you explain to me how affiliates get credit for a program in a different account? Dude- surely you must realise you are talking complete shit like the dickhead you are - this is my fucking paysite and you completely whored it out to brittanyblu.com. Half of the reasons we were so pissed off originally is all the exit consoles to lightspeed - which im totally sure our affiliates didnt get credit for - this is a revenue sharing program, and affiliates deserve to get 50% as stated of all the revenue from their traffic.


Quote:

I just do the grunt work, but in my opinion there have been some very irrationial decisions made, both when it was known Jeff wouldn't be around.
the only irrational decision made is that me and s0laris were naive enough to believe that Jeff could bring us 50 signups a day - he even set a deadline for it - May 1st - I have the email as proof.

If I knew that we would be getting days of 2 or 3 sales then i DEFINATELY would have kept running the site myself. Everyone remember - this is NOT jeffs site.. his end of the bargain was to promote it, which i might say he failed miserably at.

fuck you perfectiongirls.

quiet 05-22-2003 01:33 AM

:glugglug

a1ka1ine 05-22-2003 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
:glugglug
they should make a jeff and a1ka1ine mini-series right?

quiet 05-22-2003 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by a1ka1ine


they should make a jeff and a1ka1ine mini-series right?

i'm glad it's on GFY instead.


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