Anyone going to the Paypal conference in San Fran next week?
 

http://www.mollyguard.com/event/4649908/pplnd

Just curious, I'll be up there.

I'll probably be there.

I think you mean, "The City"

London is "The City". :)

As for the PayPal conference... I can only think of two reasons to go. A) If you have a non-adult business, too, or B) If you want to protest them getting rid of our business.

LOL Ian, I can think of one more reason :)

Anyway, who lives in SF? I get in next Wednesday afternoon late if anyone wants to get together quietly -- the darn thing starts at 8 am and those of you that know me realize that I'm not a morning person under the best of circumstances ;)

Give the address to the ppl at paypalsucks.com, maybe a bunch of ppl will go to ask for their frozen money.

I'm on it! :thumbsup

I can also think of another good reason for wanting to go - it's hunting season!

So bring whatever you packing and lets do some target practicing.

:ak47: PayPal

If Elon Musk takes care of my expenses, I will be there.

I want to hear what PayPal has to say about the outstanding lawsuits against them from porn webmasters.:321GFY

:glugglug A angry mob of webmasters going to scream obsenities at those paypal dweebs? Fucking crooks somebody slap them for me for ripping off my hard earned loot and I'll give you 2 cookies... ok 3

man I'd love to be there and them a LARGE piece of my mind....

:321GFY PayPal

Nope in the USA San Francisco is "The City" or at least in the Bay Area

Dude, did I authorize you to give out cookies?

Kimmykim,

Why dont you set a time and date?

SF

nope, but I was at cavecreek today and had some blonde hottie-vibe withdrawls, does that count dammit?!

only if I can get some nekkid pics of you bent over in that PURRTy fur-jacket of yours.....WITH the heels on dammit , you should know I"m a fan of that by now ! :)

haha, I like the jacket too. Those pointy Sauron shoes tho.. ouch. Are you bringing it, kimmy? :)

Why worry about the past and why waste time and money onit. What's done is done and will not be undone, well not in this case.

Paypal gave everyone fair notice and they can do business with who ever they choose to, it is after all their business.

Maybe we should be looiing inwardly at why they did not want to do business with us?

Too many obscene sites, too many scammers, bad publicity, Hi risk.

Let's get our shop into order before we start to poing fingers.

Or are we as an idustry allowed to do business as any individual feels fit and all the banks and corperations should offer us any facility we want?

Wait for Ashhahahahaha to go after Visa, under the RICO act, for clearing payments on a child porn site, then we will see the shit hit the fan.

I've been thinking about the least last post I made here and other than the spelling came to these conclusions.

We as an industry are judged as a whole not individuals, so when one of us does wrong we are all branded with the same iron. Are we judged as Hugh Heffners or Max Hardcores? It does not matter what we are it matters how we are perceived to be.

The Internet porn industry is the newest and by far the least regulated of all the porn industries.

So when it comes to bankers allowing their system to clear and collect money for us let?s look at the two arguments from the their side.

REASONS FOR.
More business and therefore more money. How much is debatable, some say it is less that 1% of their over all business.

REASON?S AGAINST.
It?s the porn industry. (Bad publicity)
Some webmasters sell illegal products. (Child porn.)
Some webmasters sell products into countries where they are illegal. (Beastiality, Skat, Urination, Rape, Incest, Porn)
Some of the legal sites are very close to illegal and highly distasteful.
Some sites carry pirated material. (AVS, TGP, MPG, Freesites, Newsgroup harvesters)
A lot of them do little to nothing to reduce it. (Adult Check was not the first company to say ?Nothing we can do?)
A lot of sites have great tours and little behind them. (Basically rip offs)
Some webmasters do little to pay tax or hold proper records.
A lot of webmasters Spam sites to unsuspecting email addresses.

So the next time someone shoots down a company like Paypal for getting out of porn let?s think about it from the other side.

If we clean up our act we may find we might be a bit more acceptable.

I agree 100%

Um, this post is just stupid.

I think my flight gets in around 8 pm, and I'm going to be at the Marriott on 4th street -- so maybe 9 pm or so?

:1orglaugh :thumbsup :1orglaugh

Kimmykim is on top it. The conference is about the technology. I think we all agree that having an option other than paypal with the same capabilities would be nice.

(c) New York is "The City"

--Amelia

Amelia, you nailed it :)

I`m going, everyone will be able to spot me, even if they`ve never seen me.

Good luck there, hope you've got a lot of visual preparation.

haha thats pretty funny.

Would you care to explain why?

yes yes, we know YOU'LL be there... but what about that jacket? ;-)

I look forward to you eating PayPal's lunch on this. :xomunch
I don't believe that microscopic percentage of their biz stuff for a minute.

His post was not stupid at all...It makes excellent sense, and is right on the money. Your opinions on Pay Pal are negative and biased because of your involvement in epassporte, and thats understandable, but to say Charlies comments are stupid, is just stupid on your part.

Why would my opinions on Paypal be negative? I'm still taking them as a payment method, I have no reason to dog them.

I also understand what their issues are, perhaps more so than quite a few.

What room honey? Can I spend the night with you?