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Matyko 02-20-2017 05:17 AM

scammer ripped my paypal acc for 650 USD and paypal does Not seem to be helpful
 
It was late Friday night when I notification from my paypal app that I "You sent a payment of 38,484.17 RUB to Кузьмин Яков ([email protected])" google translate says the name is "Jacob Kuzmin" and he is a non-us verified member...

I opened my paypal and tried to reverse the thing, but it was not an option. So I filed a dispute - which was rejected a ~day later saying that my account is 'healthy' and "If you're unhappy with your purchase, we encourage you to work with the seller to find a resolution."

It was tough and tricky, but I filed a dispute again during the weekend, including all the info from the transaction I could. I was told again that case is closed, everything seems to be fine - except me missing half of my paypal balance...

While I was struggling with the first dispute, I got another email, from paxum: "This email confirms that you sent 55.00 USD to [email protected] " which is a nice scam again... Of course I changed pw on all my major accounts, and pimped my paxum security settings [they are WAY better than paypal's btw]

Today my colleagues noticed that our office NAS has a folder where there are lots of strange files: the following file in thousands of sub-folders: "DECRYPT_INFORMATION.html" and after some research we found the neat Hermes ransomware on my machine, which infected a part of one of the NASes we have. Still struggling with removing it..


Any tips on how to make paypal more secure or prevent this from happening again or a suggestion what to do now? I did contact PayPal again to fight the rejected dispute, and now waiting for a new reply..

...sigh...

nikki99 02-20-2017 05:22 AM

I was scammed by a CZ airline, all this scammers are pissing me off

wehateporn 02-20-2017 05:28 AM

Good luck with this, sorry to hear it

brassmonkey 02-20-2017 05:29 AM

you have a virus scan and start changing passwords. call paypal

pimpmaster9000 02-20-2017 05:45 AM

you will get your money back you just have to wait for the dispute resolution process to complete...20 days or so...

_Richard_ 02-20-2017 05:55 AM

that '[email protected]' is all over.. buddy goes by 'Majestic' and i think is from Georgia

happy hunting

brassmonkey 02-20-2017 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21559918)
you will get your money back you just have to wait for the dispute resolution process to complete...20 days or so...

did you read and understand??? they keep closing his disputes. op never keep balances use credit or debit that way you have real dispute power.

Pipecrew 02-20-2017 05:58 AM

These things you should call PayPal about. Takes a little time on phone but the fraud staff is on point and us/uk based.

j3rkules 02-20-2017 05:58 AM

It sucks dude... did you call them? I hope you will get it solved.

Klen 02-20-2017 06:02 AM

Why does NAS have access to web ?

notjoe 02-20-2017 06:04 AM

Why do you not have 2FA enabled on everything.

brassmonkey 02-20-2017 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 21559963)
Why does NAS have access to web ?

private data

BigFurry 02-20-2017 06:07 AM

Sorry to hear :(

Use two factor mobile phone auth on all bank accounts. It's also available for Paypal, they'll send you an SMS code that you need to type in on login.

Horatio Caine 02-20-2017 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21559879)
you have a virus scan and start changing passwords. call paypal

Did you fucking read his post, idiot?

Barry-xlovecam 02-20-2017 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 21559948)
These things you should call PayPal about. Takes a little time on phone but the fraud staff is on point and us/uk based.

He is not in the US do they have some international phone customer service?
If it is a dispute contact the seller first and send the documentation proving that you tried to paypal and paxum -- that is normal dispute/chargeback resolution procedure per VISA-Net rules.

Do you use Windows with paypal?
What operating system -- sounds like an exploit/hack or possibly phishing.

If you got phished and your IP made the charges then learn to read the headers on emails that are from any financial source. Always go the the bank (or others) website and login --NEVER from any email link.

It is also possible that some vendors you are paying, or that are storing your data insecurely, got their servers hacked or compromised by insider fraud.

Close those paypal and paxum accounts and create new ones -- that the only way to guarantee that if some exploit was involved your accounts won't get hit again.

Good luck getting your money back -- it will be an uphill battle.

notjoe 02-20-2017 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21560011)
He is not in the US do they have some international phone customer service?
If it is a dispute contact the seller first and send the documentation proving that you tried to paypal and paxum -- that is normal dispute/chargeback resolution procedure per VISA-Net rules.

Do you use Windows with paypal?
What operating system -- sounds like an exploit/hack or possibly phishing.

If you got phished and your IP made the charges then learn to read the headers on emails that are from any financial source. Always go the the bank (or others) website and login --NEVER from any email link.

It is also possible that some vendors you are paying, or that are storing your data insecurely, got their servers hacked or compromised by insider fraud.

Close those paypal and paxum accounts and create new ones -- that the only way to guarantee that if some exploit was involved your accounts won't get hit again.

Good luck getting your money back -- it will be an uphill battle.

Clearly you missed the post where he already said he had a virus.

CPA-Rush 02-20-2017 06:21 AM

u were hacked :1orglaugh:1orglaugh ,pp is complete garbage :321GFY

brassmonkey 02-20-2017 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21560008)
Did you fucking read his post, idiot?

i did! did you??? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh no name calling that is for retards and stalkers such as yourself. you know you are useless when you need to stalk people you do not know :Oh crap:Oh crap

CaptainHowdy 02-20-2017 06:48 AM

That fucking sucks, Matyko ...

Barry-xlovecam 02-20-2017 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notjoe (Post 21560014)
Clearly you missed the post where he already said he had a virus.

Quote:

Today my colleagues noticed that our office NAS has a folder where there are lots of strange files: the following file in thousands of sub-folders: "DECRYPT_INFORMATION.html" and after some research we found the neat Hermes ransomware on my machine, which infected a part of one of the NASes we have. Still struggling with removing it..
another Windows user success story!

That complicates things.

Well that Windows cost you a pretty penny. NAS is not the issue, delete and reformat -- install a back up image that is clean -- but if the Workstations are Windows -- well you are simply fucked.

You may need to reformat EVERY drive if that is the case -- I hope your backups are clean.

yuu.design 02-20-2017 07:09 AM

sad to hear :(

Barry-xlovecam 02-20-2017 07:13 AM

https://www.barracuda.com/programs/ransomware/recover

this is a commercial recovery service

davidCRM 02-20-2017 07:29 AM

shit :( hope you get your money back Matyko. fuck scammers with a sizzling metal rod

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-20-2017 07:30 AM

lol who cares

Matyko 02-20-2017 07:31 AM

Thank You All for all the suggestions, really appreciate it

I'll definitely call PayPal, that seems to be the way.
Meanwhile paxum replied too, it is funny:
"The account you mentioned was already flagged and it will be kept under observation"
WUT? Observation? :pimp Why can't they auto-reverse all his transactions? Do they have a limit and fuck around with scammers only if they do more than 5/10 scams a week/month/year? :( LOL


It can be that the ransomware infection is connected with these issues, I have no idea, never been in such a situation.

Frankly, we [my crew of 4] are not using any anti-virus/anti-spyware whatsoever .. never had issues..

Horatio Caine 02-20-2017 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21560086)
i did! did you??? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh no name calling that is for retards and stalkers such as yourself. you know you are useless when you need to stalk people you do not know :Oh crap:Oh crap

You did? Than why would you tell him to change passwords if he said he already changed his passwords and found the root of the problem? So no, dumbass is no name calling, its what you really are + useless board troll, illiterate gang wannabe... Ever wonder why people keep voting you into troll of the year category every year? :2 cents:

Google Expert 02-20-2017 07:51 AM

You had a keylogger on your PC.

Contact your Bank and ask them to do a chargeback on that paypal transaction (unless you were dumb enough to keep balance in your paypal). Reissue your creditcards.

Gratz. You got hit by fucking russians.

Horatio Caine 02-20-2017 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 21560248)

Frankly, we [my crew of 4] are not using any anti-virus/anti-spyware whatsoever .. never had issues..

Damn, that like having unprotected sex with Thai hookers. I thought people like you do not exist.

freecartoonporn 02-20-2017 07:53 AM

go to pp forum and post there.
or call them directly.

Spunky 02-20-2017 07:54 AM

Weasels in the woodpile

Cyber Fucker 02-20-2017 07:55 AM

Ouch, sorry to heart about it mate, I hope pp monkeys will fix it after all.

sarettah 02-20-2017 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 21560248)
Frankly, we [my crew of 4] are not using any anti-virus/anti-spyware whatsoever .. never had issues..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21560347)
Damn, that like having unprotected sex with Thai hookers. I thought people like you do not exist.

This :thumbsup

Two different companies I worked with, both tech type companies, that after I came on board I found they weren't running any protection and I asked why?

The answer in both cases was, "We have never had an issue". My reply to both was "How do you know?".

Once we scanned the various boxes we found all sorts of issues, most pretty benign but still shit that should not be there.

.

HowlingWulf 02-20-2017 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 21560248)
[B]
Frankly, we [my crew of 4] are not using any anti-virus/anti-spyware whatsoever .. never had issues..

Everyone can say they never had an issue... until they do. Always use protection dude!

Hope it works out.

nikki99 02-20-2017 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf (Post 21560467)
Everyone can say they never had an issue... until they do. Always use protection dude!

Hope it works out.

true.............

PornDiscounts-V 02-20-2017 10:50 AM

You don't use anti-virus?

Holy Fuck!

Your NAS got infected most likely while somebody who got infected was connected to it. So their system should be showing that same file. One of your 4 isn't telling the whole story about how they infected the NAS.

As for your PayPal and Paxum issues... Did you use the same password for both? Did you use the same password as you did with some other kind of account such as an affiliate program?

A little lesson for everyone: A good portion of affiliate programs have been hacked by hackers who don't deface things. Instead they hide and hide well. They steal your whales and attribute them to their accounts. They have been doing such things for years. They usually work in groups with anywhere from 2 to 30 members. They have a strict code of laws. Occasionally one goes rogue and does something like this and the others hate that kind of shit. Why get the FBI involved in a banking scam when you could just keep siphoning off whales and have a nice living in a country where you can live like a king on $8K per month?

Good luck!

Mediamix 02-20-2017 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 21560248)
Frankly, we [my crew of 4] are not using any anti-virus/anti-spyware whatsoever .. never had issues..

WTF :error

How can you be sure that there is no problem if no anti-virus is checking for problems? :error

romeo22 02-20-2017 11:31 AM

Be careful it might happen again

Sarn 02-20-2017 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 21560248)
Frankly, we [my crew of 4] are not using any anti-virus/anti-spyware whatsoever .. never had issues..

Time to start use
https://www.avast.com

NatalieK 02-20-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21561394)
Time to start use
https://www.avast.com

absolutely. Although, I like AVG or good ole McAfee

OP, sorry to hear about this, all of our worst nightmares...

you seem very calm about it, hope you get it all sorted and it doesn´t happen again

davidCRM 02-21-2017 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21561505)
absolutely. Although, I like AVG or good ole McAfee

OP, sorry to hear about this, all of our worst nightmares...

you seem very calm about it, hope you get it all sorted and it doesn´t happen again

i use avira + do some routinely spyware check.
"i never had any problem" is almost never true, you mostly just don't know about it. :thumbsup

rule #1 for PC/Win users: ALWAYS unplug net cable from your pc when installing windows. that's when most viruses hit your system. When it's up, plug it in, and first thing to put on an antivirus. THEN get chrome :D

Matyko 02-21-2017 03:31 AM

We all started to use something: avast, panda or something else.
The reason we haven't used anything is that what we noticed is that we never had any issues until such things got installed. Sound like a conspiracy theory LOL... But for real: we are adults, we do know where to click and where not, and can determine is something is suspicious or not.
It seems that my own office computer was hacked only, and I have actually no idea how. But learned the lesson no doubt.

Most likely hacking my computer made the asshat able to do something with my paxum and paypal.

I am calm because this is just money "lost" - but hopefully it will be reversed to me sooner or later. The only person I can blame is myself, so even if the money is getting lost than I can't/won't be mad at no one..

Denny 02-21-2017 04:08 AM

That sucks, quality antivirus is a must nowadays.

wehateporn 02-21-2017 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 21562843)
The reason we haven't used anything is that what we noticed is that we never had any issues until such things got installed. Sound like a conspiracy theory LOL... But for real: we are adults, we do know where to click and where not, and can determine is something is suspicious or not.

Came to the same conclusion as me, I've been driving unprotected here too :2 cents:

_Richard_ 02-21-2017 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 21560461)

The answer in both cases was, "We have never had an issue". My reply to both was "How do you know?".

.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

davidCRM 02-21-2017 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny (Post 21562888)
That sucks, quality antivirus is a must nowadays.

http://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpg

CaptainHowdy 02-21-2017 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 21562843)
I am calm because this is just money "lost"

That's the spirit!

klinton 02-21-2017 06:36 AM

lol what a fucking joke they are
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 21559861)
I opened my paypal and tried to reverse the thing, but it was not an option. So I filed a dispute - which was rejected a ~day later saying that my account is 'healthy' and "If you're unhappy with your purchase, we encourage you to work with the seller to find a resolution."


CPA-Rush 02-21-2017 06:49 AM

the best anti-virus can't help if u are not smart:thumbsup

Google Expert 02-21-2017 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 21562843)
Most likely hacking my computer made the asshat able to do something with my paxum and paypal.

He installed a keylogger on your PC.

Then got logins/passwords to everything (emails / paypal / paxum etc)

JFK 02-21-2017 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 21559984)
Sorry to hear :(

Use two factor mobile phone auth on all bank accounts. It's also available for Paypal, they'll send you an SMS code that you need to type in on login.

Great idea:thumbsup


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