Forget PayPal (1 time Program post)
 

http://preferpay.com

say good bye to paypal and other pay services (i wont mention names LOL Carrie you can feel free to you already did on oprano ;)

This is a HARD card you can take and use ANYWHERE CC transactions are processed.

ATM's
Retaurants
Bars/nightclubs
Gas Stations
Travel/Hotels
INTERNATIONAL MC Available for use in ANY country that processes Visa/MC

Say goodbye to cash, checks , wire transfers, costly Payroll fees.

Just load a card and send it to them
Refill it for your webmasters for $1-$3.00 per card

Checks cost $6-$10 PER check
Wires cost $50+ and some banks charge an IN comming wire fee.Cut your payroll costs and headaches.

We will be BRANDING several adult affiliate program with their OWN LOGO card. If you are a program owner and have always wanted your own Branded CC Hit me up. I will set you up FOR FREEEE!!!
Design of the card
Logo on the card
Shipping of the cards to you
Ect ect NO COST
you want 10k,20k,50k cards?
NO PROBLEM!!!!!

have your webmasters think of you EVERY time they pull the card out of thier wallets!!!

MikeW will be designing several diffent faces for the cards to choose from so you KNOW they will look cool with your CO. name and LOGO on them

icq me 118156620

I will also pay referal fees to anyone sending me Large Customers!! as well we are setting up an affilliate proggie for webmasters to market the cards to their surfers!!!
should be somewhere in the $20-$40 range per sign up. still working out the payouts now. we have over 60k cards currently in use and another 100k are being mailed out to customers next week.

we currently have cotracts with 5 major banks and processing companies
NO THRID PARTY BILLERS HERE
But 3rd party processors are MORE than welcome to hit me up for a branded card for their customers

;))))

The card and service sound great and all :thumbsup

but wtf are you smoking there? $6-$10 PER CHECK? $50+ to SEND a wire?

What banks fee schedules did you use to come up with those numbers?

Sounds good... but is this US only? I'm portuguese and I could use one of those...

yeah, like i'm gonna trust my money to a shady bastard like you :321GFY

Is it possible to cash out the funds without paying ATM fees? I think employees would dig this more if they could get their cash without paying outrageous ATM fees in some areas it's like $2-3 -- every time you want money that could suck for employees...

Rrrrriiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhttttttttt!

LCGMIAMI
Laser Computer Graphics

You going to print 'em all yourself ?

This isn't really a paypal replacement at all. It looks more like prepaid credit cards. Can anyone, anywhere, send money by email to it instantly ?

Domain Name: PREFERPAY.COM
Created on: Thu, Jan 16, 2003

LCGMIAMI
Chad Davis
1657 The Fairway #124
Jenkintown, PA 19046
US
Phone: 9547727234
Email: [email protected]

January 16th isn't very long ago. What references does the company have ?

Who is Chad Davis ?

CommerceCarib sounds like an offshore entity. Is this a legitimate well-known banking setup or one of those "own your own bank for $50k" ?

Maybe he's saying that's how much it costs a typical company to do payroll per check... ? How did he come up with those numbers?

Also, yes DarkJedi made a good point -- how do we trust you with all this money?

When will the affiliate program be ready and what information is required from the buyer of this? What is to prevent someone from just giving you bogus information to make $20/signup...? It seems like this is targeted to replace existing payroll systems... if that is the case at the very least you should have a demo and screenshots of how easy it is to pay your employees... You will have a hard time selling this to someone -- really what employer wants to stop using checks? Last I checked, checks are really cheap to use...???

These are for USA and International use

anywhere visa/mc is accepted

DJ keep your money

I dont need 3cents anyway
:thumbsup

and as far as trusting ME

I never touch the money

The banks do all that.
_____________________________
LCGMIAMI
Laser Computer Graphics

You going to print 'em all yourself ?

This isn't really a paypal replacement at all. It looks more like prepaid credit cards. Can anyone, anywhere, send money by email to it instantly ?
_____________________________________

lets see we have a company printing all the cards for us so dont worry about that but thanks for the concern.

and yes you can put monies on the card from anywhere in the world via Checking acct, western union any STAR, CIRRUS, participating branch. You employer can pay your salary on it. Take the money out at atm's , or anywhere you can use a reg CC

Afflitate programs can load a batch file to their bank and have the ach system transefer the monies directly to the webmasters CC with THEIR name on it
=)))

The funds are available IMMEDIATELY



:thumbsup :Graucho

Dont' avoid the real questions.

Who are the banks ?
Who is Chad Davis ?
What is CommerceCarib ?
Is this an offshore banking operation ?

What kind of banking references does he have ?

How is this different than any other prepaid card or internet card affiliate program ?

ok OTHER cards cannot be used at Point of SALE without a PIN code

ie you MUST enter a pin code to complete the transaction

our card you do not its a REAL CC No pin needed except to draw from atm's

No this isnt OFFSHORE all of our processors and banks are here in the Good Ole USA

Bank of America hold all the funds on the cards

you want Banking references NO PROB

my partners are Mainstream Timeshare Gurus and do 100's of millions of dollars a year with their banks

chad davis is one of the partners

That carib is one of his Travel companies

they own 25 call centers employing 300 people doing NOTHING but direct telemarketing for travel and timeshare

These guys are soo clean they squeek when they walk

No adult stigma here
:thumbsup

Last year I hired an AU designer to make a logo for one of my mainstream sites. He didn't have PayPal at the time, so I had to wire the money to him.
My corporation's bank is Bank of America, so naturally I went there to do the transfer - the fee was $45 from US to AU and that didn't guarantee it would go through. If there were any problems and it was returned for any reason, it would cost me another $45 to attempt to send the money again.

So in MY experience, the wire transfer fee he's quoting is right on the money.

Thanx carrie

yes i did my homework

you have banking fees the labor costs the check costs ect ect

bank charge anywhere from $10.00 to $50.00 for outgoing wire transfers

Some even charge for INCOMING wires

with this card you will NEVER need to wire money again

owe someone who has one of these cards

pay them throgh our service and its there ready to be withdrawn or used NOW!!!!!!!!

Preferpay's office:

http://www.darectr.com/images/mail_boxes.jpg

http://www.iwcmarketing.com/

preferpays office

On Commercial and Federal Highway Ft Lauderdale

and we own the buliding

:thumbsup

Ohh and one of our banks Wachovia is a tenant

:thumbsup :thumbsup

What about pay by email and other instant peer-to-peer?

In US Fleet Bank they told me wire would cost around $25. I have never sent wires from there, though. I do send them from offshore bank account. The charge is 0.2% with a minimum of 20 and maximum of 100. It's into anywhere over the world. Usually takes 4-5 business days. There is also a possibility of urgent transfers withing one day (they cost more). One of my former partners sent me money from some Netherland bank. He told that for him the charge was just $7.50 disregarding to which bank he was sending. From the other hand, I've heard of US and European banks that charge $60 for a wire.

So basically the prices depend on the bank.

I think I'll take a closer look on this http://www.preferpay.com/gmt.htm
It sounds expencive, but if it provides all functionality that is needed, that can be the only alternative to PayPal. It's impossible to predict, though, how popular it will be with surfers... And if it is not, it won't become of wide use.

I like the Yahoo system better than this. Waiting to see about E-Passporte, depends on how the new features come along.

Say goodbye to cash, checks , wire transfers, costly Payroll fees.


DIRECT DEPOSIT TO YOUR CARD

If your employer or government agency offers direct deposit you may have your salary or payment deposited directly into your account each pay period. Give your employer or the government, the ABA bank number, (located on the front of your card below your name line) and your account number (your 16 digit card number also located on the front of your card). They will make you sign an authorization, which will allow them to make the direct deposit. It may take a couple of weeks for the bank to complete this direct deposit transaction.

TRANSFERING FUNDS TO YOUR CARD FROM A BANK ACCOUNT

You may initiate the transfer of funds from a U.S. bank account to your card account. You may do so by calling the Customer Service number on the back of your card.

CARD TO CARD FUNDS TRANSFER

You may use the automated telephone system (VR option found in the "enhanced services" of the customer service 800#). Have your card account number, password and the number of the card you are 'transferring to" ready when you call. Or, you can transfer funds from one card to another through any STAR ATM network machine.


will there be a way to fund that card with:
cash, checks , wire transfers, money orders

there already is

:thumbsup

if you have any questions feel free to ask

i am looking to set up an affiliate to sell this card to surfers
Hook them with the sale and make a recurring % of the cards you have out
should be $29.95 for the webmaster per card on the front end and something like .50 per card per month recurring

we will accept checks, western union and paypal as FOP as well as credit cards

118156620

[email protected]

Always here to help

Can I fund the card with paypal $?

we just worked out a deal with them to do this

so yes shortly

It sounds pretty good. How much will it cost to get a card, will there be a setup fee and are there any annual fees? Plus when is the international mc going to be available?

PayPal... What is it? :) I already forgot about this company.:1orglaugh

Mark

Fix your signup form...

I can't put my full street address or my email address...It also MAKES me do a second card as well

Jon

ill get my programmer on it now

Thanx man

You gotta be US resident to use yahoo system, and I'm not and many ppl I work with are not.

Oh jeez, I don't know that I can think of a shadier goup than timeshare and telemarketers.

They sell magazine subscriptions too?

why do you use soo many addresses under your domain names
5 addresses below:

4freelive.com address in NY
preferpay.com domain contact address in PA US

address on site:
2419 E Commercial Blvd
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33308

commercecarib.com address in Miami, FL

and this again different address:
iwcmarketing.com DELRAY BEACH, FL

If someone losses money at this project, where they will find you ?

costa rica?

This guy is a huge fluke, a 1st class ripper, so go fuck yourself, no mather what you say. :321GFY

all the money goes to Bank of America

is FDIC insured

I am in the UK, and signed up today using my UK bank account. There are nationalized versions of it for some other countries.

Come up with some proof that the money is insured, I can say I have 10 million dollar too....:glugglug

Something to back that up before I go more into PreferPay?

adultnex

please feel free to hit me up anytime about preferpay

118156620

[email protected]

Thanx

As a Paysite my question is does it work like a VISA credit card without a PIN for purchases and does it reduce or eliminate chargebacks?

Okay, BofA is FDIC insured, no question. That does not mean that preferpay is. You care to prove up that claim? I looked on your site for any indication that you were FDIC insured and can't.

Oh wait, it says: PREFERPAYCARD is a provider of financial solutions and is affiliated with an FDIC approved banking institution. That is a far cry from you being FDIC insured.

Part of what makes this operation seem so shady is bullshit claims (ie: Checks cost $6-$10 PER check
Wires cost $50+ and some banks charge an IN comming(sp) wire fee), and implying things like you are FDIC insured. You are not.

Oh yeah, you might want to invest in a spellcheck if you are going to cut and paste spam around. I know I have a problem finding credibility with companies that can not even put out a press release without spelling errors.

yes it does work without a PIN code as most others do not.
that is where 1 big difference comes in.

as far as chargebacks.

because it is a prepaid card if the customer requests a "chargeback" they must fill out a request from Visa stateing the type of fraud committed. He must sign the afidavit and send it to Visa

It is lengthly process and If the user is committing fruad it is much easier to catch it

the % of charge backs is much lower than regular credit cards

baddog

the money on the cards is held or "floated" by Bank of america
in B of A accounts

therefore all monies are the cards are insured by the FDIC

Sounds like as a paysite I do not need to do anything to accept the card as long as the Bin's are not blocked. Are you doing a partnership program for new accounts?

Probono

we are looking at the affiliate end now trying to find the best way to maximize you profit and customer retention with the card

My sales team is working several options now

all of them have some form of reccuring payment to the affiliate webmasters as well as a 19.99-29.99 up front payment

Please keep me posted lee at dreamnet.com

You are the same guy that offered over a 100 Million verified
email addresses of Spanish speaking people that own a credit
card right?

There are only 400 Million spanish speaking people (roughly)
So you claim that 1 out of 4 has AND internet access AND owns
a working credit card that he/she is using online
(*cough* scrubbing)

If I just look at Spain 50 Million people, less than 10 Million have
internet access.......most of those 10 Million are students and
don´t have credit cards.

Oh and if you had any real clue about the Spanish speaking
market you would know that online CC payments are next to
nothing except for some US spanish speaking people.

Your 100 Million Plus verified Spanish emaillist is BULLSHIT.
Is that why you now come with this great deal?

Why not take a few weeks off from the boards study your home
work and then come back with some stuff that you can actually
back up. Clearly this is not working out so well for you.

DynaMite :2 cents:

the sign up form is fucked up. I can't put the whole email address in

I think they give them out at the hospital upon birth now. :1orglaugh

lol I think they all have preferpay cards issued by himself.

DynaMite

if your signup form don't even work.... how come you have 60.000 members ?. anyway, if you guys are legit best of luck, i always wanted my custom plastic.

will there be a tranny disguised as a woman in this gangbang as well?