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Gutterboy 03-26-2003 10:33 PM

Iraqi opposition group to US: Leave after war or face armed resistance
 
This is going to turn into such a clusterfuck..

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TEHRAN (Reuters) - The leader of Iraq's main Shi'ite opposition group warned Washington on Tuesday that U.S. troops would face armed resistance if they stayed in Iraq once President Saddam Hussein was toppled.

"Iraqis are against foreign dominance, and if they (the Americans) don't want to leave Iraq, the nation will resist," said Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir Hakim, head of the Tehran-based Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI).

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=2443643

In case it isn't clear enough, these are people who are AGAINST Saddam Hussein.

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More of the grateful masses...

directfiesta 03-26-2003 10:37 PM

What, No flowers and kisses???/

They hate Saddam, but it is clear they want the yankees out asap or else we will blow you out .... they will take the power.

As info, they are located now in Iran, a very friendly US country....

I love "Iraqi - Operation Freedom": so many surprises....

Amputate Your Head 03-26-2003 10:37 PM

Iran is next on the list.

playa 03-26-2003 10:40 PM

The problem is once the US leaves all the other nations like Iran is gonna take advantage of their weeken military

i heard that once its over they'll have 75,000 soldiers permantently doing rotations there

similar to how they have it korea and europe

KRL 03-26-2003 10:41 PM

The CIA has plans to take out ooops I mean accidently make missing in action any opposition leaders with those thoughts in mind. Once a couple of the towelheads go bye bye the others will settle down.

Mutt 03-26-2003 10:42 PM

damn, that is depressing.


At some point I think the Middle East should just be nuked.
Give the Israelis a month or so to shut down and move to wherever they want to go - most likely Miami Beach. Or give them a state, like North Dakota or Idaho. Then nuke the whole Middle East.

Gutterboy 03-26-2003 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
damn, that is depressing.


At some point I think the Middle East should just be nuked.
Give the Israelis a month or so to shut down and move to wherever they want to go - most likely Miami Beach. Or give them a state, like North Dakota or Idaho. Then nuke the whole Middle East.

No joke... the whole region is so fucking insane its beyond belief. Liberate us, but we'll kill you if you don't leave fast enough. Madness.

Mutt 03-26-2003 10:46 PM

like i said, it will be a festering sore on the asshole of humanity forever. These people are religiously insane, the religious paranoid. There is no way to deal with them. With regular insane people you can drug them into the Twilight Zone so they don't hurt anybody or themselves. Hmmmmm....... maybe that's an idea, spike their water supply with Thorazine.

playa 03-26-2003 11:21 PM

a country with the Second Largest Oil reserves will need lots of western influence, doesn't make sence for them folks to be living like that

Mark 03-27-2003 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
damn, that is depressing.


At some point I think the Middle East should just be nuked.
Give the Israelis a month or so to shut down and move to wherever they want to go - most likely Miami Beach. Or give them a state, like North Dakota or Idaho. Then nuke the whole Middle East.

Miami beach sounds ok.. actually anywhere with sun and a cool beach in fact.. thanks! :thumbsup

CDSmith 03-27-2003 12:19 AM

All that oil money used to go straight into Saddam's pocket. Once the Iraqi people start reaping the benefit of that oil money, they'll be in a better mood to behave. Starving people have a way of wanting to actually eat and feed their babies before they think about kicking their benefactors in the teeth.

[Labret] 03-27-2003 12:23 AM

You mean we are liberating people that hate us?

The biggest friend of their biggest enemy liberating them. You people seriously scare me that actually sit there and think the average Iraqi is gonna let the Jew puppets run their country. Cmon now. I know most of you are inbred but rub those 6 brain cells together on this one.

Its like Israel coming to the rescue of Arafat. Its an absurd thought.

rooster 03-27-2003 12:25 AM

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L26594975.htm



Labret, there is whackjobs in every country. About 30% of the people in the usa are worthless. I suppose this percentage is about the same wherever you go.

CDSmith 03-27-2003 12:25 AM

Well, what are 30,000 tonnes of food, medicine and water supplies doing over there, taking care of the goats?

[Labret] 03-27-2003 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Well, what are 30,000 tonnes of food, medicine and water supplies doing over there, taking care of the goats?
Its the American mentality.

Buy their love. Money can buy anything. Can it buy an entire nations loyalty? Of course it can. Will it work in Iraq? We shall soon find out.

I predict no. We got that whole tie to the Jews that pisses alot of people off.

CDSmith 03-27-2003 12:34 AM

You're right, we shall.

I suspect that trucks will bring in that aid and food to areas that have been secured by the military, and the civilians that are hungry will show up in droves to accept it. Those still standing with their guns will also soon get hungry. Some will give up rather than starve. They will all be treated very well by the red cross and other coalition agencies that are there to help them and their children.


Later their country will be rebuilt for them, if they can only sit back and shaddap and let us do it for them. I say "us" because Canada will be a part of that process. They will have construction done for them, sewage systems, hydro-electric production made better than ever, etc etc.


But you're right, there will likely come a time when they simply want everyone out. No way they're going to be allowed to start killing each other and setting up a new dick-tater-ship though. Nuh-uh.

[Labret] 03-27-2003 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
You're right, we shall.

I suspect that trucks will bring in that aid and food to areas that have been secured by the military, and the civilians that are hungry will show up in droves to accept it. Those still standing with their guns will also soon get hungry. Some will give up rather than starve. They will all be treated very well by the red cross and other coalition agencies that are there to help them and their children.


Later their country will be rebuilt for them, if they can only sit back and shaddap and let us do it for them. I say "us" because Canada will be a part of that process. They will have construction done for them, sewage systems, hydro-electric production made better than ever, etc etc.


But you're right, there will likely come a time when they simply want everyone out. No way they're going to be allowed to start killing each other and setting up a new dick-tater-ship though. Nuh-uh.

There are waaaay too many seperate groups in Iraq who think they belong in control.

The Shiites in the south have never liked Saddam. They rose up to fight him last time and got their asses reamed.

But they arent doing it now.

The first group of people that I would have thought would stand up and fight with the USA would have been the Shiites, they did it last time. But no, they are fighting us.

Make sense of that shit. You cant. They hate us plain and simple.

Its going to be a fucking nightmare in Iraq. Colonialism NEVER works. Just ask the French and the British.

rooster 03-27-2003 12:40 AM

labret, you have a very interesting way of making up things and trying to potray it as facts.

[Labret] 03-27-2003 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
labret, you have a very interesting way of making up things and trying to potray it as facts.
Am I? Details please.

Show me how the Shiites love Saddam. Please.

http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/19...224140949.html

And show me how they didnt rise up against Saddam during the gulf war.

sextoyking 03-27-2003 12:45 AM

Labret,

but the Kurds in the north Def. hate Sadam and well Turkey :)

[Labret] 03-27-2003 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Labret,

but the Kurds in the north Def. hate Sadam and well Turkey :)

No doubt. The Kurds came from the North and the Shiites from the South after the gulf war cease fire.

The Kurds are on our side, but who gives a fuck what the Kurds think. And Turkey wants in the EU real bad but also doesnt want to piss off the Muslim population... ya know, the whole reason they dont want Americans on their soil. Turkey is gonna do jack shit. And if anything, the Kurds will end up fighting the Turks.

My point is, our old friends are now fighting us. The people that HATE Saddam are fighting us. Am I the only one who finds that odd?

pr0 03-27-2003 12:47 AM

The turks will take care of the dissidents :)

Amputate Your Head 03-27-2003 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


No doubt. The Kurds came from the North and the Shiites from the South after the gulf war cease fire.

The Kurds are on our side, but who gives a fuck what the Kurds think. And Turkey wants in the EU real bad but also doesnt want to piss off the Muslim population... ya know, the whole reason they dont want Americans on their soil. Turkey is gonna do jack shit. And if anything, the Kurds will end up fighting the Turks.

My point is. Our old friends are now fighting us. The people that HATE Saddam are fighting us. Am I the only one who finds that odd?

I think that's a little premature....


and the Kurds aren't going to fight the Turks any time soon for a couple reasons... one being that we have repeatedly warnd Turkey NOT to fuck with the Kurds... and Belgium has already told them, if they do, they can kiss their bid for the EU good-fucking-bye. And two.... the 173rd Airborne just dropped in outta the sky this afternoon and took control of shit there, setting up the airfield for more of our shit to come in.
If they were gonna clash, it would have already happened. That window of opportunity is gone now. At least until we're out of there.

sextoyking 03-27-2003 12:51 AM

labret,

Me and you don't ever agree on much, but I do see your point.


yes I do see that all sides might come against us sooner or later.

With these ppl it's not just politics or money they can get, alot of it is the business of Religion and of course our support of Israel.

We shall see if we can show the ppl of Iraq a better way.

Could it turn into a Vietnam or Peace Keepers there for many years, sure could I suppose.

rooster 03-27-2003 12:52 AM

only people I see fighting us are the republican guard and the Fedayeen. Both of which are groups that have blood on their hands and no choice but to fight to the death.

Fletch XXX 03-27-2003 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
All that oil money used to go straight into Saddam's pocket. Once the Iraqi people start reaping the benefit of that oil money, they'll be in a better mood to behave.
i saw an iraqi exile woman on tv she and her husband live in the US, i swear when the camera zoomed on her, her vail had a Gucci logo on it, i laughed.

sextoyking 03-27-2003 12:53 AM

Amp,

yeh I don't see a fight with turkey anytime soon.

they do want in the EU real bad, and we give them so much damm aid I don't think unless something real bad happens, they will just watch there borders. They don't want Iraq land, they just don't want to loose any of there own, and have a Kurd. state.

[Labret] 03-27-2003 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


I think that's a little premature....


and the Kurds aren't going to fight the Turks any time soon for a couple reasons... one being that we have repeatedly warnd Turkey NOT to fuck with the Kurds... and Belgium has already told them, if they do, they can kiss their bid for the EU good-fucking-bye. And two.... the 173rd Airborne just dropped in outta the sky this afternoon and took control of shit there, setting up the airfield for more of our shit to come in.
If they were gonna clash, it would have already happened. That window of opportunity is gone now. At least until we're out of there.

I agree.

Now explain to me why the Shiites in the South are fighting us. Why are Saddam haters fighting us when we both have the same ultimate goal?

sextoyking 03-27-2003 12:54 AM

Rooster,

about 100% correct. The have many years of blood on there hands. all they have left to do is fight.

If caught they will pay for all there crimes against there own ppl of iraq.

[Labret] 03-27-2003 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
only people I see fighting us are the republican guard and the Fedayeen. Both of which are groups that have blood on their hands and no choice but to fight to the death.
Thats your defense? What YOU see?

What the fuck do YOU see besides what the fucking news tells you?

Im going off recorded history and you are going off your fucking opinion.

Sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up and let the adults speak.

fang 03-27-2003 12:55 AM

Fuck off this is webmaster board:thumbsup

sextoyking 03-27-2003 12:55 AM

Labret,

I can think of 1 reason, but some ppl will say I am crazy. I belive Politically, Iran has some hands in with the shites.???

CDSmith 03-27-2003 12:55 AM

The shiites are fighting the coalition? I hadn't heard that. What I HAVE heard on various networks is that they have been quite hesitant to help fight the Iraqis due to the fact that back in '91 we encouraged them to fight saddam but did fuck all to help them finish what we started. Instead we bailed and left them to face Saddam's wrath, which was quite harsh to say the least.


No one said it would be easy. I hazard a guess that those in the decision-making positions (Bush et al) are well aware of the various factions and how best to go about settling the country.... which brings us back to what you said earlier... "we'll soon see".

[Labret] 03-27-2003 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
Labret,

I can think of 1 reason, but some ppl will say I am crazy. I belive Politically, Iran has some hands in with the shites.???

Id imagine anyone who hates Saddam can have Iranian support. Except for the USA. See how that works in the middle east?

They can piss and moan and massacre each other all they way, they just dont want us sticking our jew loving noses into their business. Its ALWAYS been that way. Like I am making this shit up?

sextoyking 03-27-2003 12:58 AM

As with Af. will the tribes ever get along in Iraq??

well let's see guys.....


Centuries of fighting, we in the usa have no history compared to these fellows.

Amputate Your Head 03-27-2003 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


I agree.

Now explain to me why the Shiites in the South are fighting us. Why are Saddam haters fighting us when we both have the same ultimate goal?

that's the part I was referring to about being premature... I don't know if I'd categorically state that they are 'fighting us' just yet. Some probably are, some probably are not. The one's that aren't... need no explanation. They hate Saddam and the shit he's done. End of story.... but the one's that are.... who fucking knows..... I saw one on TV today, spewing some crap about the US will lose, and Saddam is great...... after they just pulled 4 Iraqi troops from a building. It's very bizarre. Bitter maybe about getting left to be assfucked by Saddam in '91? That's the only thing that makes any sense.

rooster 03-27-2003 12:59 AM

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercuryne...aq/5489140.htm

http://msnbc.com/news/882884_asp.htm

sextoyking 03-27-2003 01:00 AM

Well Jew loving is far for me, as I am a proud jew and support israel 100% when it comes to there right of state, etc.

but yes, we are back to religion, centuries of hating the jews, fighting, etc.

can we forcefully impleament a better way, force first, then diplomacy??

dunno..................

Warden 03-27-2003 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


I think that's a little premature....


and the Kurds aren't going to fight the Turks any time soon for a couple reasons... one being that we have repeatedly warnd Turkey NOT to fuck with the Kurds... and Belgium has already told them, if they do, they can kiss their bid for the EU good-fucking-bye. And two.... the 173rd Airborne just dropped in outta the sky this afternoon and took control of shit there, setting up the airfield for more of our shit to come in.
If they were gonna clash, it would have already happened. That window of opportunity is gone now. At least until we're out of there.

Hell yeah, thats my old unit. If I would have just stayed in a few more years I could have got that mustard stain! If any of you don't know what a mustard stain is, don't ask! Go Herd!

[Labret] 03-27-2003 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
The shiites are fighting the coalition? I hadn't heard that. What I HAVE heard on various networks is that they have been quite hesitant to help fight the Iraqis due to the fact that back in '91 we encouraged them to fight saddam but did fuck all to help them finish what we started. Instead we bailed and left them to face Saddam's wrath, which was quite harsh to say the least.


No one said it would be easy. I hazard a guess that those in the decision-making positions (Bush et al) are well aware of the various factions and how best to go about settling the country.... which brings us back to what you said earlier... "we'll soon see".

Basra is a major Shiite and Sunni city. I seriously doubt the people that want to see Saddam dead are just sitting their with their hands in their laps.

I will find the source if I can.

All I have heard on the news is they are not quite sure they know who they are shooting at half the damn time. Its not like Iraqi regulars are rushing out to greet them with uniforms on.

nap 03-27-2003 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


No doubt. The Kurds came from the North and the Shiites from the South after the gulf war cease fire.

The Kurds are on our side, but who gives a fuck what the Kurds think. And Turkey wants in the EU real bad but also doesnt want to piss off the Muslim population... ya know, the whole reason they dont want Americans on their soil. Turkey is gonna do jack shit. And if anything, the Kurds will end up fighting the Turks.

My point is, our old friends are now fighting us. The people that HATE Saddam are fighting us. Am I the only one who finds that odd?

your not the only 1 who thinks thats odd. i'm just curious to see which other country will be found to be selling iraq weapons/technology.

[Labret] 03-27-2003 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


that's the part I was referring to about being premature... I don't know if I'd categorically state that they are 'fighting us' just yet. Some probably are, some probably are not. The one's that aren't... need no explanation. They hate Saddam and the shit he's done. End of story.... but the one's that are.... who fucking knows..... I saw one on TV today, spewing some crap about the US will lose, and Saddam is great...... after they just pulled 4 Iraqi troops from a building. It's very bizarre. Bitter maybe about getting left to be assfucked by Saddam in '91? That's the only thing that makes any sense.

Agreed.

Amputate Your Head 03-27-2003 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nap


your not the only 1 who thinks thats odd. i'm just curious to see which other country will be found to be selling iraq weapons/technology.

well, Russia's already been busted. And we know China's been busted.

CDSmith 03-27-2003 01:04 AM

What has been happening in Afghanistan since the Taliban was taken out? There has been some in-fighting amongst various factions, but as far as the news has reported over the past few months they are doing okay, no? Of course they are on the back burner.......



The Turks have worried me the most during the past week. If they want to defend their border they should be doing it from inside their own fucking country instead of sending a thousand military vehicles into N. Iraq and defying US requests like assholes.

They could seriously fuck things up in the north.

[Labret] 03-27-2003 01:05 AM

14 sand ******s from Michigan does not equal a Shiite uprising.

And I am aware of small pockets of people happy to see Americans. I see them on tv just as you obviously do. All 34 of them.

Amputate Your Head 03-27-2003 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


14 sand ******s from Michigan does not equal a Shiite uprising.


ROFL!!! jesus.... you fuck. Now I gotta get a new beer....

sextoyking 03-27-2003 01:07 AM

CD,

The turks have been inside of Iraq, no fly zone for quite a few months now in the north.

I have no worries about Turkey, they just don't want an uprising from there Kurd ppl and don't want mass refugees, and a kurd state.

Turkey remember is pretty much the only arab democracy..

Been there 2 times, Turkey ppl I met all loved the usa. We have had bases there for years and years.

rooster 03-27-2003 01:08 AM

labret you are twisting facts for your own agenda.

How come you refuse to mention the Fedayeen which are the people doing the fighting and all these dirty tricks. They are Sadaams henchman and essentially use terroist tactics.

Fletch XXX 03-27-2003 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


Am I? Details please.

Show me how the Shiites love Saddam. Please.

http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/19...224140949.html

And show me how they didnt rise up against Saddam during the gulf war.

Al-Sadr would have obviously become a rival, if he wasnt already.

[Labret] 03-27-2003 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
labret you are twisting facts for your own agenda.

How come you refuse to mention the Fedayeen which are the people doing the fighting and all these dirty tricks. They are Sadaams henchman and essentially use terroist tactics.

Why not mention them? Because we all evidently are watching the same media coverage. I would have figured we all knew Saddam own little terrorist army is fighting us. Isnt that just assumed and not even relevant to the conversation?

Im talking about the people who SHOULD be fighting with us, people whom we were TOLD would fight with us, and despite however much feeble spin you would like to put on it... are not. And in fact, may actually be shooting at us.

Pay attention god damnit.


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