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  • American Psycho
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2009
    • 3068
    #1

    as an affilate do you prefer pps or revshare?

    I have done revshare mostly amd when speaking with other affiliates there was little pps interest and mostly interest in revshare

    But i always read here pps is a more popular ...

    .what gives wit dat?
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    • fuzebox
      making it rain
      • Oct 2003
      • 22370
      #2
      Revshare was an awesome model 10 years ago.

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        • MPGdevil
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2005
          • 1210
          #3
          Revshare. I'm in the game for the long run. Why would I pick and support shitty sites that don't convert.

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            • Klen
              • Aug 2006
              • 32234
              #4
              Revshare FTW,tho pps have more sense if you buy traffic.

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                • signupdamnit
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6697
                  #5
                  It depends on numbers like the average $/sale versus the PPS payout. But if it seems like there is the chance that the sponsor will fold or play games with the rebills then PPS is better than having $ tied up in rebills which may never get paid. PPS used to be a far better deal in the days when sponsors didn't take back for refunds on PPS but those days are largely behind us.

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                    • chaseyrita
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 177
                      #6
                      It depends. If you're running a fly by night program with a low user value then a PPS would be appropriate. Running high quality programs on a rev share model would make more sense. Especially those programs that offer lifetime % of what you sell per user you refer. Do yourself a favor... test all the programs you promote. Test the user sign up process. Test how they keep their users... Do they update their content on a regular basis? Does this help?
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                        • Jman
                          Already an AI veteran
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 22834
                          #7
                          If you land a whale spender on cam site you'll be happy to have chosen revshare
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                            • dannypcash
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                              • May 2013
                              • 185
                              #8
                              Go with Rev share if you are thinking long term , Its Better
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                                • CourtneyR
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                                  • Jan 2012
                                  • 2989
                                  #9
                                  I usually find my affiliates who buy traffic lean more towards PPS.

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                                    • Rochard
                                      Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                      • Dec 2001
                                      • 75764
                                      #10
                                      Revshar - always.
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                                        • pornguy
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                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 62910
                                          #11
                                          Rev is the way to go if its long term work. Just depends on the person and the model of traffic etc.
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                                            • Andreweb
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                                              • Mar 2013
                                              • 2432
                                              #12
                                              I preffer revshare in time it brings you more $$$ but if you want fast money then you can use PPS !
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                                                • Jel
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                  • 6904
                                                  #13
                                                  today, PPS.

                                                  1. 4.95 joins are easier to sell than 29.95 joins, all other things being equal (nice tour, billing page etc) which (and please god don't let this turn into another tubes are evil/tubes are awesome thread) is a factor with the sheer amount of free stuff out there that's so easily accessible today.

                                                  2. Retention ain't what it used to be. Surfers are getting savvier... they join a site, get their content fix, leave, join another and repeat - they know they can see the same 10/14/21/28/25 updates if they come back in 2 months time and pay a single 29.95 instead of multiple 29.95s, and use that to cycle through their memberships.

                                                  Now obviously this doesn't apply to EVERY surfer, or EVERY site, or EVERY program, and is my general rule of thumb these days when choosing what to push, among other variables that determine which actual sites I push from the PPS catalogue.

                                                  Some will obviously produce more EPC with revshare, but I find those are well in the minority these days.

                                                  *disclaimer
                                                  my traffic is all SE. ymmv if you have a review site for example, or whatever your particular traffic source is.

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                                                    • JA$ON
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                      • 1329
                                                      #14
                                                      depends on the program.....1000%

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                                                        • rockeru
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2013
                                                          • 293
                                                          #15
                                                          PPS for me as long as they pay for $1-5 trials

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                                                            • aka123
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2014
                                                              • 4450
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Jel
                                                              2. Retention ain't what it used to be. Surfers are getting savvier... they join a site, get their content fix, leave, join another and repeat - they know they can see the same 10/14/21/28/25 updates if they come back in 2 months time and pay a single 29.95 instead of multiple 29.95s, and use that to cycle through their memberships.
                                                              So, if user signs in again and in many cases uses the old accound, does affiliate get anything from it? Or is it over after the first quitting? I would suppose from the revshare name, that revenues from that customer will be shared, so how is it?

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                                                                • karolinaboy
                                                                  Pimping ain't easy.
                                                                  • Jan 2014
                                                                  • 255
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Rev Share and hunt for big spenders.

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                                                                    • anexsia
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2010
                                                                      • 5735
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I mostly use PPS but will use Revshare on programs that I think will retain users. There's some paysites that have really great content and update often but they don't retain worth a shit and then there's some that stopped updated and retain really well! It's pretty crazy .

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                                                                        • TrashyGirl
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2010
                                                                          • 1401
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Revshare for cams. PPS for other programs.

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                                                                            • PaperstreetWinston
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2014
                                                                              • 2604
                                                                              #20
                                                                              for cams and dating revshare, the rest pps
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                                                                                • CPA-Rush
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                                                                                  • Mar 2012
                                                                                  • 4927
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  PPS for average traffic >let me try this site first - if program offer big payouts ... REV for loners or maybe engaging sites

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                                                                                    • MrGusMuller
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                                                                                      • Oct 2010
                                                                                      • 1262
                                                                                      #22
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                                                                                        • AmeliaG
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 10675
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Jman
                                                                                          If you land a whale spender on cam site you'll be happy to have chosen revshare
                                                                                          Quoted for truth. I always shake my head at those $100 or whatever PPS programs for cams because I find cams very hard to convert but very worth it for the rare occasions when they do.

                                                                                          I have to say that in 2008, it seemed like a lot more PPS programs went under when the math changed and the economy got harder at the same time affiliates got more uneasy with pre-checked cross-sales and card-banging.

                                                                                          I think revshare pays affiliates more fairly in that those who send great traffic get great money and those who send mediocre traffic get mediocre money.

                                                                                          SpookyCash is revshare and I almost always choose revshare as an affiliate.

                                                                                          I used to try to maintain a mix of revshare and PPS for cash flow, but PPS programs are just too vulnerable in an economic climate where even some industry titans have folded or stopped paying.
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                                                                                            • MediaGuy
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                                                              • 5500
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Revshare. Whether webcams or a site with good regularly updated content, you make more per month. My best seller ever was a huge-boob non-nude model who has since given up the site but when she was hot, her regulars were minimum 13 months along...

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                                                                                                • ErectMedia
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                  • 7100
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Revshare but I mainly promote Cams these days.

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                                                                                                    • CurrentlySober
                                                                                                      Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                      • 39014
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      poo-per-sale of course....
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                                                                                                        • Skyworker
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                                                                                                          • Feb 2014
                                                                                                          • 101
                                                                                                          #27
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                                                                                                            • baryl
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Aug 2011
                                                                                                              • 1086
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              In my experience revshare comes out slightly ahead but just slightly. This is for paysites, not cams.

                                                                                                              I do two very similar programs, one PPS and one revshare. PPS is $30 and the revshare after 2 1/2 years is around $33 per signup with about the same ratios and amount of traffic.

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                                                                                                                • Nicky
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                  • 30071
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Depends on quality/content/updates etc of the site I am to promote

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                                                                                                                    • Feng-PD
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                                                                                                                      • Jul 2011
                                                                                                                      • 3964
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      depends on what kind of site... but usually i prefer pps

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                                                                                                                        • Markul
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                                                                                                                          • Dec 2007
                                                                                                                          • 12407
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Always revshare for me..
                                                                                                                          But.... I pulled out...

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                                                                                                                            • kane
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                              • 20684
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Unless I know the site is very good, has great content and will retain, I go PPS. Over the years I have done plenty of number crunching and I found that I make about the same either way. There some programs I will make more in the long run with revshare and others I would make less. When I add it all up it all comes out about the same. At least with PPS I get the money up front and I don't have to worry about the site being shut down, sold or whatever and me losing the rebills.

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                                                                                                                                • MTCCash
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                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2014
                                                                                                                                  • 53
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Depends on what type sites -

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                                                                                                                                    • FoxyFletch
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                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2014
                                                                                                                                      • 99
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I'm using PPS to launch my site, once it is running with smooth daily traffic flow ... REVSHARE ARE GO !

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                                                                                                                                        • Robatolla
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 897
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Revshare

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                                                                                                                                            • PR_Glen
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                                              • 9058
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                              It depends on numbers like the average $/sale versus the PPS payout. But if it seems like there is the chance that the sponsor will fold or play games with the rebills then PPS is better than having $ tied up in rebills which may never get paid. PPS used to be a far better deal in the days when sponsors didn't take back for refunds on PPS but those days are largely behind us.
                                                                                                                                              This has only ever been true for webmasters who only get 1-2 sales a week. It's a much different story in volume. Revshare is ALWAYS better. Want proof? Every single program's model is build around this.. Who takes refunds on pps? I've never heard of a program doing this. Unless they were fraud sales that is.
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                                                                                                                                                • PAR
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                  • 1835
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  PPS for testing and short runs, revshare is a long term game.
                                                                                                                                                  As PR_Glen said .. Revshare normally always better. But if it's something new/test .. I normally go with the PPS to start, if I'm going to push it more than 60 days I will switch to revshare.

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                                                                                                                                                    • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                      • 6697
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                                                                                                      Who takes refunds on pps? I've never heard of a program doing this. Unless they were fraud sales that is.
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                                                                                                                                                        • Kenny B!
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed Abuser
                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 5719
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          It really depends on the product and price points but over all long term weve always won promoting through rev-share.
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                                                                                                                                                            • Denny
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                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                              • 17429
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Depends on the program/site but I tend to go PPS nowadays.

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                                                                                                                                                                • pegginglovers
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2013
                                                                                                                                                                  • 216
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  revshare, unless in weird geos and it's PPL and sometimes PPS
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                                                                                                                                                                    • VSKevin
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2013
                                                                                                                                                                      • 885
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      For cams, I see a lot of people leaning towards RevShare because of the whale factor. There isn't really a limit to spending with cams in a short amount of time, unlike membership sites etc. Guys drop their wallets for that girlfriend experience y'know?

                                                                                                                                                                      All in all, it depends on how quickly you want your cash. PPS for higher initial payouts. RevShare for that long lasting relationship that grows over time (or if you happen to immediately catch a whale, immediately large payouts lol).
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                                                                                                                                                                        • newxxx
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2008
                                                                                                                                                                          • 334
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Revshare, coz I love rebills!

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                                                                                                                                                                            • TeenCat
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2007
                                                                                                                                                                              • 16131
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              some programs just cant revshare a shit ...

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                                                                                                                                                                                • askjoe
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2012
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 194
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Revshare even if i buy traffic.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Most mediabuyers with a good cashflow are pushing their own revshare accounts
                                                                                                                                                                                  and doing good with that.

                                                                                                                                                                                  And no traffic is shit.It depends on product and what user expect to see after clicking your ad.

                                                                                                                                                                                  edit: pay per sale... Just good for the program, because of the branding and reactivation of users (pushing rebills and dead accounts)
                                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by askjoe; 08-27-2014, 05:47 AM. Reason: edit : pps

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2011
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1014
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • CDSmith
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 51460
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          I recall making well over $1,000 each on several signups I sent Bangbus back in the day. Several of those rebilled for 3 to 4 years or more.

                                                                                                                                                                                          The only way I know how to earn over a grand on one referred signup is by revshare.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Famemonster
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2014
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 536
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              I used to go 100% rev share but i changed it depending the the website. Rebills are key, but some sites do not convert well, you get a few pennies on a sign up and then nada. I started setting up different campains using different ratio's. For some I use about 90% rev 10% PPS but others I go much lower around 70/30 in favor or PPS.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • fasnow
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2014
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 5
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I guess it depends. For new site, I usually start with PPS, then move on to revshare.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • pornmasta
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 19849
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      usually revshare

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