Kiev says its forces clashed with Russian troops inside Ukraine
 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0GF13120140815

About the markings, it's not that hard to take them off and have some fresh paint. Works either way, but I mean that nothing forces Russia to have any markings on it's vehicles.

The level of Ukraine "credibility":

https://twitter.com/mashant/status/500303628117491712

Based on some Twitter message, really realiable. I didn't even get it. What the hell is "Cameron phoner"?

just crush them already :disgust

What?! Maria Antonova is AFP's correspondent in Moscow. She's reliable.

Midday military spokesperson in Kiev said Russian incursion headed to Molohvardisk, but mentioned no fire/attack -> http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2014/08/15/7034896/


https://twitter.com/search?f=realtim....html&src=typd

http://i.imgur.com/fvlGgUI.jpg

You're clearly not the smartest person here. Read the article.

Last night there was multiple news reports of "23 Russian armored vehicles" that crossed the border into Ukraine. I didn't post it because I wasn't sure of how trustworthy the website(s) were; One of the was the Guardian that claimed "Western journalists" witnessed the crossing first hand.

We have satellites in space that track everything. Earlier on in the conflict the US tracked three armored vehicles move across Russia, and all the way into Ukraine. You just cannot hide this stuff from satellites any more.

Russia is directly responsible for all what is happening in Ukraine right now. Even the top two so called "Rebel" leaders are Russian, and both of them quit and (surprise!) returned to Russia yesterday.

It doesn't make it any more realiable.

What article? I saw only twitter message with no sources. You dumping some Russian articles doesn't make it different.

Sheep!

You will belive anything people tell you, if it fits your current perspective.

Have you seen those satellite images? no
They may be as real as the WMD in Iraq they had "solid evidence" of

As US Senator Hiram Warren Johnson is purported to have said: The first casualty when war comes is truth

russia needs to send air support :2 cents: kick some ass!!!! :thumbsup

I do not want to be rude but you are sooo dumb

statement from Poroshenko
http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/30998.html

it was edited a couple hours ago

https://twitter.com/mashant/status/500303628117491712

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:winkwink:

RT are pretty keen to get a point across

There was that vicious coup of the democratically government which was organized by Western NGO's :2 cents:

Does that too base on Russian sources?

Most of the government staid, the president left with only few others.

So... can we see pictures of Buk rocket launch then already? lol

"Ukraine crisis: BBC finds Russian aid trucks 'almost empty''"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28799627

Russian sources? I've no time for trolls, last response...

Poroshenko's statement, original/cached version:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...t=clnk&gl=s k

google translate:
current version:
http://www.president.gov.ua/ru/news/30998.html

google translate:
Ukraine is a joke

Some Russian chick is Russian source to me, as well as everything else that is Russian.

So what's the problem with these Poroshenkos statements? That destroying military vehicles part?

Vicious coup?

The president was legally removed from office and promptly fled the country.

Well I guess they fooled us huh.

Or were the contents emptied before the journalist were allowed to look inside!!!!!!!????????

Why the military presence before but not during the journalist access to the convoy!!!!????

Your propaganda needs a reality check. There are three ways of removing a president under ukrainian law: one is his death, the other is when he personally steps down, and the third is impeachment. None of this ever happened. So I have no idea what you're talking about.

Nevertheless, the elected parliament kicked him out.

Rochard as a former solder, you have to be smart enough to understand even with satellite technology like we have, they can only view so many things at one time.

While of course yes we can spot these troop movements, we can't watch them all 100% of the time. The individual surveillance of this type is usually done by drones, something the US doesn't have in place at this point.

Even Frodo was able to sneak past the Eye of Mordor..

:1orglaugh

I don't get it.
Yesterday they talked about the fact that they are gonna take back donetsk and today they are attacking Russia ?
It's look like a diversion

unconstitutional coup

Here's how things work in Ukraine, about 100 members of the Ukrainian Parliament were beaten up, their families threatened, and their voting cards taken away.



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If Ukraine really destroyed Russian convoy, Kiev would broadcast video everywhere and invite press to view wreckage but not even a picture. Kiev has been caught lying 100's of times now...

Technically Russia attacked to Ukraine, if that armed vehicle thing is true. Ukraine just killed the attacker.

I am sure that there was room for at least one more youtube video.

CyberBitch is off from Ukrainian theme after numerous meltdowns
now ruskie/slovakian bitch evy97 is rolling with irrelevant bs. looks like the sucker has nothing to do in his life. broke loser with no business and a lot of time for gfy wars

fold into russia! dont fight that shit

sorry, but you seem to be another idiot with his agenda spending too much time on the news and gfy fights.

I completely disagree.

I have no idea what satellite technology we have "today". I might be somewhat familiar with the kinds of satellite technology we had up into the 1980s.

With that said, I've seen what technology exists today in the civilian world for tracking. They have tracking so sophisticated that when you walk in a store, they track your every moment, can tell exactly what you are looking at, and even tell when you are confused and need help and automatically send someone over to help you. If that is not enough, they can match you up to purchase, track you through your credit card, and compare your last visit to other visits. On a larger scale, local city governments track people on the streets - they assign each person an ID number and can track how many stores they went in to, how long they stayed, and even determine if they purchased something.

If you don't think the United States has a satellite technology that can track a few thousand tanks... You are kidding yourself.

Even if they did not have the technology, they would still be able to track it - just like how they tracked progress of the Russian missile bases in Cuba. They took pictures every day, and then compared pictures from one day to the next. Fast forward forty years and I am guessing they can take pictures every sixty seconds and instantly view them - and track anything they want.

That's funny.....

On 22 February, the Ukrainian parliament voted to remove him from his post, on the grounds that he was unable to fulfill his duties, although the legislative removal lacked the number of votes required by Ukraine's then-current constitution. Parliament set 25 May as the date for the special election to select his replacement, and, two days later, issued a warrant for his arrest, accusing him of "mass killing of civilians."

Seems to me the entire government wanted him out of office, Parliament set a special election, and then made moves to have him arrested. Eventually he fled the country.

Lol then you are the 3rd one. All your attacks always against Russia, you never acknowledge how stupid your government is. CyberSEO at least recognized his president is not prefect. I never seen any word from you against your government. It is called propaganda.
Кругом пидарасы, одни украинцы Д'артаняны. Так не бывает. Пидарасы по обе стороны.

dont struggle

i did stated a few times that the new government is corrupted and the people at Maidan didn't recognize politicians, and Poroshenko gets limited approval. Maidan gave birth to new age people, which are fighting against the old corrupted machine.

rusia is definite evil, ruskie are zombies. Ukrainian ppl are wiser than current politicians, but we have a lot of troubles because of living next to ruskie/with ruskie for centuries. there're also many shitbags living in Ukraine which turned to shit Maidan in recent months, so ppl stood up and destroyed it, which made ruskie happy, while they were silent on real Maidan and presented it in very bad way. i have no problems with stating such things, so that proves you as lying ruskie bitch next to your friends CyberSeo and evy97

to follow the thread i believe Poroshenko lied about destroyed ruskie war machines. i guess those leaved Ukraine by int diplomatic pressure. not sure what's the reason to lie about it. btw there's a site http://www.stopfake.org/en/news/ which does fact checking for both ruskie and Ukrainian media.

hope you youtube the invasion :helpme

http://antimonkeybutt.com/clientuplo...lotion_med.png


It puts the lotion on it's skin.....................

Meanwhile at the Russian-Ukrainian border:

http://icdn.lenta.ru/images/2014/08/...803fedda5f.jpg

Full story: https://translate.google.com/transla...%2F&edit-text=

:helpme

People who say they hate their neighbours do not seem to realise how stupid they look to people on the outside.

To the outsider a Russian and a Ukrainian are peas in a pod. The same.

The English fought the Welsh, the Scottish, the Irish the French etc for hundreds of years....because they were different?

That is the negative side of nationalism, that your people are better than the rest.

What is exciting about New York and London is they are international cities where there are good and bad people but they don't all belong to one nationality.

It is a world economy we are one world. The are bad governments but no bad peoples.

just go to rusia, live there for a year, then say
you do agree there's a difference between european and muslim, american and chinese, do u? ruski are ppl of different kind, they are not european, they are some sort of asian fascists, you can't imagine the scale of their constant lie, because you don't know them. i've been in rusia many times, the way they live (poor, shitty) and what they show on TV is totally different. it's blatant propaganda which makes ruskie think they are right and that the whole world is against them.

ruskie tourists are hated all over the world because the way they behave. they get there money from oil/gas or by stealing govn funds (the rich ones). the regular citizens work for those ppl, but attitude there is terrible. they produce nothing, they import most of the goods people need. but the fuckers are fucking dare and messing in every place they get

No, they fought for the power, for the land.

btw Ukrainian army was pretty much successful in killing ruskie terrorists in recent days. 2 biggest cities in region Donets and Lugansk are about to be cleared from ruskie in the next few days.
intelligence reports that nowadays there're very few Ukrainian people among terrorists, most of them are ruskie and chechens. Ukraine army pretty soon becomes one of the best world armies with that attitude. pootin is really scared by success of our troops. that's why he is that slow with escalating conflict: world pressure + strenghtening Ukrainian army. ruskie have no decent war allies all over the world. and ruskie are really weak when it comes to war. they are good at pretending and scaring, but they can't deliver a shit.

http://mediarnbo.org/wp-content/uplo.../16-08_eng.jpg

hmmmmm...46 post it thread and no any pic of "partly destroyed a Russian armoured column" for proof? how is it possiable?:))))

It's a war zone, not the block down the street. It took time to get very much information about the airliner that was shot down as well. Not like Russia or the Rebels are going to blast the media with pictures when they are denying it happened and it's not like journalist or the Ukrainians can just waltz into rebel controlled territory to snap some pictures to win an argument on the internet.

At this point I'd say Ukraine has much more credibility than Russia. Russia is the one that has lied every step of the way. Ukraine is not perfect, but at least they haven't been lying constantly about what they are doing.

The rulers got others to fight for the land, but hatred of the foreigner was used to achieve that aim.

I know lots of Russians and have travel in Russia and the Ukraine. I found the people there to be very nice people.