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Alex1776 03-23-2014 08:37 PM

Youjizz is literally PACKED with stolen videos
 
90% of the vids seem stolen straight up!
Why doesn't anyone shut this fucker down?

bean-aid 03-23-2014 08:44 PM

It's all good... stolen is just borrowed in adult. He has borrowed the vids, will return when done :thumbsup

brassmonkey 03-23-2014 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex1776 (Post 20024979)
90% of the vids seem stolen straight up!
Why doesn't anyone shut this fucker down?

if you dont own the rights your blowing smoke up your own ass. let the owners of the content deal with it. :2 cents:

mineistaken 03-23-2014 09:00 PM

rogue employee or user submit

Alex1776 03-23-2014 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20024991)
rogue employee or user submit

I'm guessing neither, think the owner is just a thieving dick.

bean-aid 03-23-2014 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex1776 (Post 20025001)
I'm guessing neither, think the owner is just a thieving dick.

I think your guess may be on the money.

JuicyBunny 03-23-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 20025005)
I think your guess may be on the money.

:2 cents::2 cents: - However, it is all corporate so it's not theft just unregistered acquisitions. Slutload is the same way. Xvideos now have .jp domains. No one cares except affiliates trying to earn a living. One cannot help but think the owners are partners or they have zero business sense. I mean 50 fucking minute videos? DVD quality? Fuck it all.

marcop 03-24-2014 12:09 AM

Adapt or die.

Rumbledog 03-24-2014 02:11 AM

adapt or die, huh? marcorp when someone using that term, it shows that you condone content theft.

This new political correct revolution has even reached the point where honest people are demonized when they complain about theft and outright criminal acts.

notinmybackyard 03-24-2014 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rumbledog (Post 20025116)
adapt or die, huh? marcorp when someone using that term, it shows that you condone content theft.

This new political correct revolution has even reached the point where honest people are demonized when they complain about theft and outright criminal acts.

Yup

The solution for a producer is simple :
Make a product that is hard to put up on the Internet.

I once said in this forum that the solution for mainstream Hollywood is to go back to film and shut down DVD production. Producing less films with higher budgets increases market value.

There is no reason the porn industry should not be able to do similar. And if enough producers do that, then they can tell the tube sites to adapt or die.

JuicyBunny 03-24-2014 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rumbledog (Post 20025116)
adapt or die, huh? marcorp when someone using that term, it shows that you condone content theft.

This new political correct revolution has even reached the point where honest people are demonized when they complain about theft and outright criminal acts.

I guess his "industry role" is monetizing other people's content for them. :upsidedow

247mg 03-24-2014 06:33 AM

No complain from youjizz bcz almost 95% tubes got stolen content

nico-t 03-24-2014 06:40 AM

once the have made millions they will clean up their sites and be bros again with everyone.

JuicyBunny 03-24-2014 06:41 AM

Is Youjizz a Mindgeek property now?
Who owns it now?

michael.kickass 03-24-2014 06:41 AM

I'm not surprised to be honest.

signupdamnit 03-24-2014 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JuicyBunny (Post 20025006)
:2 cents::2 cents: - However, it is all corporate so it's not theft just unregistered acquisitions. Slutload is the same way. Xvideos now have .jp domains. No one cares except affiliates trying to earn a living. One cannot help but think the owners are partners or they have zero business sense. I mean 50 fucking minute videos? DVD quality? Fuck it all.

That's why I got out of trying to sell pay sites as an affiliate. No one cares. There was a good post on another forum recently relating to it and I've long complained about it. But that post detailed how the same pay sites with their content all over these tubes, hundreds or thousands of full scenes will complain about affiliates having more than six photos up or do not provide any affiliate content. For the most part for affiliates there is no viable business there any longer.

I make some extra money from the pay site links still up and some people do buy but it's few and far between. It's all bonus money that I know can go away at any moment because that part of the industry is no longer sustainable.

signupdamnit 03-24-2014 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20025251)
once the have made millions they will clean up their sites and be bros again with everyone.

Or leave the industry with their millions. Meanwhile the people still left in adult are left to suffer. What is

BTW what is Fabian up to these days? I wonder.

bronco67 03-24-2014 08:20 AM

Just a question...are people who say "adapt or die" ones who actually produce content? I mean actually hire talent, shoot, edit, put their love into it, etc.

notinmybackyard 03-24-2014 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20025366)
Just a question...are people who say "adapt or die" ones who actually produce content? I mean actually hire talent, shoot, edit, put their love into it, etc.

I know Marco does.
In fact I think he even shot for LA Express (I think that was the name of the weekly)
But really that is not my business or for me to expound on.

SomeCreep 03-24-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex1776 (Post 20024979)
90% of the vids seem stolen straight up!
Why doesn't anyone shut this fucker down?

Because it's legal to steal videos and monetize them so long as you claim it's user uploaded content and take them down once you receive a DMCA complaint. Tubes use custom written scripts that reupload the same content within 2 - 4 weeks, but with a new title and header. This simple business model has made the biggest tubes $10's of millions of dollars.

nikki99 03-24-2014 08:38 AM

yes found some stolen vids now

JuicyBunny 03-24-2014 08:40 AM

Ah, I see now.
Impressive partners and associates list.
Free speech Coalition - Go APAP!
Vobile...

fuzebox 03-24-2014 09:17 AM

How do you know they're stolen?

marcop 03-24-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rumbledog (Post 20025116)
adapt or die, huh? marcorp when someone using that term, it shows that you condone content theft.

This new political correct revolution has even reached the point where honest people are demonized when they complain about theft and outright criminal acts.

I was being sarcastic with my "adapt or die" comment. People use the phrase on GFY in a sarcastic manner all the time, but I guess you didn't get that. Let me try again:

<sarcasm>

Adapt or die.

</sarcasm>

There... did that make it clearer for you?

marcop 03-24-2014 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 20025381)
I know Marco does.
In fact I think he even shot for LA Express (I think that was the name of the weekly)
But really that is not my business or for me to expound on.

Who are you, dude? Yes, I shot a bunch of covers for the LA Express back in the day. but only a handful of people would know that. Email me... there's a contact page on my cat's website which is linked in my sig.

Bladewire 03-24-2014 09:45 AM

Why can't there be a PRIVATE part of the board where content owners are notified of the latest greatest free site with tons of stolen content?

Just seems free advertising for the hottest pirate site here is a real slap in the face to the rest of us.

Jel 03-24-2014 10:13 AM

^ 'cos traffic is king and everyone wants it, whether it's a tube or a message board.

Bladewire 03-24-2014 10:15 AM

^ content is king :thumbsup

Jel 03-24-2014 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20025578)
^ content is king :thumbsup

lol yup, that works too actually :pimp :thumbsup

JA$ON 03-24-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20025578)
^ content is king :thumbsup

only if it results in generating traffic though

Bladewire 03-24-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON (Post 20025588)
only if it results in generating traffic though

^ and only if that traffic works in generating sales :pimp

Just Alex 03-24-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex1776 (Post 20024979)
90% of the vids seem stolen straight up!
Why doesn't anyone shut this fucker down?

And any other xxx tube site thrives on licensed content?

signupdamnit 03-24-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20025513)
Why can't there be a PRIVATE part of the board where content owners are notified of the latest greatest free site with tons of stolen content?

Just seems free advertising for the hottest pirate site here is a real slap in the face to the rest of us.

Back when the industry cared and people were mostly decent there was an embarrassment factor to having a site you own or support getting called out. People would often see their banners up at the site in question and announce that the account has been terminated and all traffic redirected. Some affiliates would drop sponsors advertising on these sites. But now the pirates own the industry and the standard reply is "adapt or die, loser". These days you're the asshole for saying anything.

Bladewire 03-24-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 20025613)
Back when the industry cared and people were mostly decent there was an embarrassment factor to having a site you own or support getting called out. People would often see their banners up at the site in question and announce that the account has been terminated and all traffic redirected. Some affiliates would drop sponsors advertising on these sites. But now the pirates own the industry and the standard reply is "adapt or die, loser". These days you're the asshole for saying anything.

So where do all the content owners & producers go now to communicate? I speak to guys on the phone & via email primarily now. I don't even know half their handles on here, or any other board :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

signupdamnit 03-24-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20025619)
So where do all the content owners & producers go now to communicate? I speak to guys on the phone & via email primarily now. I don't even know half their handles on here, or any other board :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm not a content owner to be honest. Ask someone like "Robbie" on here and he'd probably give you a good honest answer. From observation I think it's mostly as I said, "The pirates own adult." In the eyes of the people at the top of the industry YOU are the asshole for complaining about people stealing your content.

That's why I left as a paysite affiliate. Starting around 2011ish I became the asshole for not liking the idea of users getting all the content I was trying to sell for free because of theft by others. I finally said, "Fuck it!"

mamaliga 03-24-2014 11:13 AM

borrowed content

JA$ON 03-24-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20025460)
How do you know they're stolen?

Good point.....They spend MILLIONS buying content (and yes, I know this for a fact). I know nobody likes to hear that because then they'd have nothing to whine about, but the truth is, They have more legal, purchased content than they will ever need. Im sure there are plenty of stolen vids on there, but its a small % and they sure don't need them. I have no horse in the race, just saying.

mineistaken 03-24-2014 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rumbledog (Post 20025116)
adapt or die, huh? marcorp when someone using that term, it shows that you condone content theft.

This new political correct revolution has even reached the point where honest people are demonized when they complain about theft and outright criminal acts.

Well said, fine sire :thumbsup

Bladewire 03-24-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 20025613)
Back when the industry cared and people were mostly decent there was an embarrassment factor to having a site you own or support getting called out. People would often see their banners up at the site in question and announce that the account has been terminated and all traffic redirected. Some affiliates would drop sponsors advertising on these sites. But now the pirates own the industry and the standard reply is "adapt or die, loser". These days you're the asshole for saying anything.

I remember those days! I believe things will get better. The less fresh content thieves have to steal, the more they appreciate what remains, after so many of us went broke and/or quit.

Thieves are actually complaining on boards about stealing from each other. The more we educate thieves that becoming an affiliate and earning 50% profit with no DMCA's to deal with, the better off all of us will be in the long run.

The tide is changing with "anonymity" online and big business is quickly becoming a more embolden big brother, and they will change the rules sooner then later. You see that coming too?

facialfreak 03-24-2014 12:57 PM

A lot of the content is MFC shows (I saw several clips of Nicki Elliott)

What's particularly interesting to see, is the watermarks on the clips, and which sites are claiming it's their own content.

Tube sites are the red-headed stepchild of adult ...

Alex1776 03-24-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON (Post 20025670)
Good point.....They spend MILLIONS buying content (and yes, I know this for a fact). I know nobody likes to hear that because then they'd have nothing to whine about, but the truth is, They have more legal, purchased content than they will ever need. Im sure there are plenty of stolen vids on there, but its a small % and they sure don't need them. I have no horse in the race, just saying.

What are you talking about??? Youjizz.com does NOT spend MILLIONS buying content, not at all!!!

WDF 03-24-2014 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20025513)
Why can't there be a PRIVATE part of the board where content owners are notified of the latest greatest free site with tons of stolen content?

Just seems free advertising for the hottest pirate site here is a real slap in the face to the rest of us.

Several of us have mentioned both here before. We tried to put together a place requiring verification to help keep it to content producers/distributors/rights holders but most would rather sit and bitch here for sig views.

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 20025613)
Back when the industry cared and people were mostly decent there was an embarrassment factor to having a site you own or support getting called out. People would often see their banners up at the site in question and announce that the account has been terminated and all traffic redirected. Some affiliates would drop sponsors advertising on these sites. But now the pirates own the industry and the standard reply is "adapt or die, loser". These days you're the asshole for saying anything.

Exactly correct and if you try to organize or do something now you have a personal motive or get your name dragged through the mud.

Gator 03-24-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 20025053)
Adapt or die.

Meaning become a thief or die.

Clay 03-24-2014 07:37 PM

isn't YouJizz owned by a regular here? Coin-something or something like that?

dgraves 03-24-2014 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON (Post 20025670)
Good point.....They spend MILLIONS buying content (and yes, I know this for a fact). I know nobody likes to hear that because then they'd have nothing to whine about, but the truth is, They have more legal, purchased content than they will ever need. Im sure there are plenty of stolen vids on there, but its a small % and they sure don't need them. I have no horse in the race, just saying.

Then why have a feature to "upload" videos? Why not just have a free site with their own "purchased" content to sell ads?

Simply because it's a lot cheaper to steal content and just pay for bandwidth than to purchase content and cover bandwidth costs.

Alex1776 03-25-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay (Post 20026235)
isn't YouJizz owned by a regular here? Coin-something or something like that?

Some fucker named Igor Gens I believe..

MrTrollkien 03-25-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex1776 (Post 20027468)
Some fucker named Igor Gens I believe..

xbiz.com/news/150176

notinmybackyard 03-25-2014 09:21 PM

The solution has always been there....
Just starve out the Tube sites.

But no one has either the courage to stop production or the imagination to create a new product that is too difficult to put upload.

dgraves 03-25-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 20027944)
The solution has always been there....
Just starve out the Tube sites.

But no one has either the courage to stop production or the imagination to create a new product that is too difficult to put upload.

Starve them out? How is that going to happen when the content producers who have been getting fucked for years are now teaming up with the thieves and making them affiliates.

They are making the thieves affiliates and at the same time fucking over their real affiliates.

WDF 03-25-2014 10:26 PM

Sooner or later you are going to get fucked building someone else's brand for them.

There is no equity built in for affiliates in affiliate programs.


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