Design needed before the weekend...
 

If you can get a design done before this weekend, read on.

I'm looking for a good design at a fair price. The design is for a mainstream site and will have PR exposure when released. Your company information or name will be exposed in this PR which could possibly bring you in some more mainstream business. The design is for an affiliate site similar to ARS, Wegcash, and other programs in this field. We need the design to be as good as ARS and Wegcash. It needs to look professional and needs to contain flash. We only need a front page and then a basic template to work with throughout the rest of the site. So 2 pages. Obviously the front page will look incredible though.

This is an urgent project that needs to be completed by this weekend. The best price in ratio to the quality of design is going to get this. My ICQ is in my sig and just msg me with your quote and porfolio or examples.

If you are looking to charge anything over $250 for these two pages, don't quote it.

You want a site compared to ARS or Wegcash with flash for under $250 and done in 2 or 3 days :1orglaugh Good luck man.. Im not saying tht someone wont take the job but you pay for quality and flash and a layout like on ARS dosnt come cheap..:2 cents:

speed, price or quality.
pick any two.

:1orglaugh


Good + Fast does not include Cheap
Good + Cheap does not include Fast
Cheap + Fast does not include Good

and you want a good fully functional program site of high calibur ready to rock by this weekend for $250 or less?


:1orglaugh


good luck

If you find someone, and it works out, send them my way after you are done with them....

indeed.... I'd like to get a piece of that too bro... :winkwink:

jack the price up 1/3 since he is canadian.

cheap bastard.

Not to mention Flash...

Yeah good luck getting that quality for the price in a heartbeat..this is a 4 digit project easy for what you want..but some european will probably slave for you anyway..you get what you pay for

Done deal for $125. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And you guys think I'd pay more then I have too... lol

I don't think many of you understand that you get ripped off by paying $1000's for a design. I've been finding people for cheap, and I promise you that what they produce is as good as anyone elses. They just need exposure, and when someone can give them exposure, they will work cheap.

But then for the designers that charge a killing... all the power to you. I wouldn't charge less if you are filled with business. but you gotta understand lots of talented people on GFY are starting out, and they will do anything to get their foot in the ground.

maybe when u learn how the market works, u'll learn to exploit and play it better for your advantage.

I'd love to see this $125 wonder when you get it up....

you gonna post it for us? :glugglug

Catch me on ICq and i'll keep you updated on the design.

did they do the http://www.bikinihouse.com design?

if so, i'd ask for a refund, and suggest you get your eyes checked.

lol

haha. no. I don't work in the adult industry, those are old domains that i ran a while back. I work in the mainstream now. I've been out of the adult biz for a year now.

I guess you guys should just keep your tabs on the site before speaking. You never know, there's a chance I might be wrong, and this kid may suck ass. Either way, I'm paying after the project is complete.

bikinihouse next time you could as well use template monster ;)

PS won't give shit for no shit

You guys are funny.

I'm cheap cheap cheap.. and if i can get things cheaper, i would. I guess you guys like paying premiums. Good for you.

lol..... you're the kind of guy that sees no difference whatsoever between a Corvette and a '72 pea green Pinto.... after all, they both get you from point A to point B right?

and what does that say about jokedollars?

It says I'm looking for a design for a cheap price.

Amp... In a way you are right. If it takes me from Point A to Point B, I still got where I wanted to right? But I wouldn't discount something you haven't seen based on a figure. This guy said he can make a design as good as ARS for $125. I don't even need to prepay. Now when you asess the risk here, there is none. What is $125? Nothing really. So why not give it a chance? If you wouldn't give it a chance, then I really question your character.

I told you initially that I am persuing an offer under $250. I got one for $125. So I took it, and now everyones bitching it won't look good before they have even seen it, or know who this guy is. lol

I can do one for $125 too.... hell, I can pay YOU $125 to LET me do one.

But we all know that's not reality and it's not going to happen. And no one is going to put the work required into something like that for a lousy $125 unless they are seriously starving for either money or experience. And it can't be money, because any 12 year old would have charged more than that.

but hey.... I could be wrong. Maybe you'll end up with a killer site for $125.... what do I know anyway.... I only do this shit every day. :glugglug

To tell you the truth, I don't know what to expect, but I'm not losing anything on this deal. If I can get away with $125, that would be killer.

And yes, the guy doing it needs the exposure and money i'm assuming.

And with your experience, I thought you would understand you can get good designs for cheap if you look hard enough? Or you in total disbelief that getting a 2 page design for under $250 is possible?

By the way, our team is really impressed with your work.. and maybe we can arrange a design for one of our larger mainstream sites in the near future. Obviously we would pay you much higher then $125, but for this current project, we are looking for a cheap solution (under $250).

nope... I used to believe it, but I've gone through the ringer with that one. More often than not, you find someone that ain't all that great charging way beyond his capabilities.... so, finding someone that's good and undercharging his capabilities is pretty much unheard of. Anyone that's good, knows what he's worth.

but, like I said.... I could be wrong. There's always that one guy out there... or someone that's good that just feels in the mood. I do stuff hella cheap sometimes just cuz I get the itch to do the job. Doesn't happen often, but it happens.


anyway... best of luck with it... I hope you get something you can use. No sarcasm intended... I honestly hope it works out for ya. I gotta get back to work here though.... pullin' a late night tonight. :winkwink:

It implies your affiliate program cannot afford a decent design.. that there aren't enough funds to support your own business let alone the affiliates - regardless of the truth.
It says you're willing to take risks, not for greater rewards, but for the same or lesser rewards than someone with no risk takes. An affiliate will see that.. if thats all you're willing to pay for a design, how well is the affiliate tracking coded? if thats the quality of designer he's hired..
regardless of the situation 3rd party billing and tracking and whatnot.. paying a quarter of the market rate for work adds up in people's minds as your site operating potentially 4 times worse.. It's no-ones fault, it's been drummed into us since birth that price = quality.

you talk about giving it a chance for $125 and questioning someone's character.. excuse me.. you're the one that said it needs to be done in 2 or 3 days.. if you lucked out on the risk and you can't use it, it's not just $125 you're out.. it's your urgent timeline! unless it's totally arbitrary that is a big risk.

No-ones saying you won't get lucky and have a great site. If you've nabbed a good guy with no experience and needing some then good for you - but is that how you do business? one-time deals with up and comers that get pushed to the side once they want market rates? that is increasing your risk exponentially finding a new guy each time.. they won't work for peanuts for long, once they have a bit of experience and a few portfolio pieces..

I guess the issue taken here isn't so much the deal you pulled off, as your brazen attitude that could very easily tarnish your program.. programs are a dime a dozen.. It's not easy pulling in the affiliates... If they have to choose between the one not willing to pay standard rates to build and maintain the thing they derive their income from they can go to one of the other 500 that do... thats all..
get it done for $125.. tell people it cost $1000.

good luck with the design.. it will no doubt work out ok for you. I just wouldn't go around calling myself cheap a lot as the owner of a program...

First of all, I'm not the owner, just a worker for them. Second, we don't work in the adult business. This site has nothing to do with the adult business or practice of adult business.

Third, you assume lots from a single sentence that I made. I never knew you can extract so many ideas from it. Specially when I clarified that I was simply intending on finding a design for a cheap cost. Anyways, I hear what you are saying. But I guess we look differently on things. When i shop for things, I always look for the best price. It's as simple as that. In the world of business today, we need to be frivilous. Can't really understand how you don't agree.

My brazen attitude... well that's also your opinion. I'm sure many people also feel that going with a risk free design (pay after it's complete if i like it and use it) at $125 would be their option to.

I'm hoping for the best here, and I PROMISE, I'll keep you updated on it.

You're only giving this poor bastard 125$ and you're not even paying him upfront?

I'm guessing you're not paying upfront, just incase it isn't up to your standard.. right? But then again, what are you expecting for 125$?

You cheap fuck :mad:

wow, really nice replys :winkwink: i like them

Silly

You could look at that $125 as a good deal.

Most of the time though, you'll end up seeing it as spending $125 on top of the regular price when you have to go to someone like Amp for what you really want.

He was offering up to $250 for a single page like the front page of adultrevenueservice.com or wegcash.com. He also wanted a template page. Now, go visit either of those 2 sites real quick and just take a look at the front page. Are you really suggesting no *good* designer will do that for $250 ? Go look again.

Yes TemplateMonster has great stuff too. Might even be better off going with them, if the designer you're trying to help get his foot in the door somewhere doesn't work out that well for you.

They have some pretty good designs over there, and you'll get the PSD's, a batch of fonts, etc.

Like this one, only cost ya $57

http://www.templatemonster.com/show....eatured&type=1

If I wasn't busy at the time, and I knew the exact direction of his site, I'd do the job for some extra cash... but I also tend to look at myself at being worth at least 100 an hour, I guess that either one of those pages would take me 2 hours to complete; minimum...

I want to see this $125, ARS type design.

You're an idiot. :thumbsup

Finally someone understands what I'm trying to tell you people.

Hit me up if you are interested in having a quick design for ya!:thumbsup

Personally I don't see anything wrong with asking for low price. If someone will take the job, then you just got yourself a deal, if not then big deal, no loss in trying.

It's called good business, you take risks, it's how you get rich. Almost every profitable corporation does it.

Those of you who are pissed off are probably just designers afraid that there others out there that will do an equivalent job for a fraction of the cost and take away business.

I knew some people were intelligent on GFY!

lol... sure

lol.. Dude, you're full of yourself.

By the way, what's up with your new layout man? Looks like shit. Why don't you let me design something for you.

aaahahahaaa.... fuck off idiot :1orglaugh

There's plenty of work for everyone. Good luck to him and his $125 design. If you've found someone that does quality work for as low as that, I'm sure some of us designers could outsource a lot of work to them.

Shit man. I never noticed your new design.

You might wanna change it... not impressive at all.

there's a couple reasons for that...

1. I'm not trying to attract new clients at the moment. I'm booked for the rest of my life.

2. Simplicity is beautiful. (And much easier to maintain than that fucking monstrosity I had before, when I got other things I need to be doing... like, client's projects)

3. I no longer feel the need to 'impress' anyone with my own site. My work does the talking.

:glugglug

Well I didn't think it was THAT funny when I looked at it...

So you gonna let me design for you or what? lol.

I can't wait to see this design!

Make me a sample paysite. If it's good, I'll put you to work.

But before you dive head first into that.... trust me when I say, I got a pretty high freaking mark of what I consider to be 'good'. :glugglug

and I do NOT babysit.... so if you need someone to hold your hand, forget it.

bikinihouse:
haha ... ¸its ok to exploit people because one will do it.... for exposure or lunch money....

Isn't it what sleazy compagnies are doing when they establish themselves in 3rd world countries...

Hey those people need food... $5 a week is gold for them...

exploit people's weakness! Good going! :thumbsup

Instead of worrying about Amps site, why not tackle those two hideous fuckers in your sig?

lol.... so true....

damn... you look at everyone's shit don't you? :glugglug

this is like, twice in two days.... hehe

no theres nothing wrong with it..


It's how 95% of gamblers lose money.
I already outlined why it wasn't good business on such a tight deadline. If he needed it in a month then yeah.. no problem at all.. If it wasn't any good theres plenty of time to find someone else to get it done.. but if he "loses" then along comes the deadline and no decent design.. it's fucked the whole project plan, not just $125. Good business involves calculated risk, not unneccessary risk.
Plus the time involved in continually finding deals from a series of newbies needing experience is more costly than just finding one company/person you like and sticking with them.

no one really cares about it, there is so much work out there that theres enough for everyone.. those who are good charge more.. those that aren't don't. If someone good doesn't charge market rates he won't do it for long.. and if he did, no one minds if he works his ass off for peanuts - there are plenty of people out there willing to pay the normal price.. all the guy would do is attract the cheap clients he deserved, leaving the guys with fatter wallets for everyone else.. thinning the client herd and leaving the choice picks for everyone else.