The assualt rifle ban did not work last time so what is the worry?
 

They simply modified the product and kept selling them. So why is everyone so freaked out this time? I am pretty anti-gun and would agree with most bills. This one was not effective at all. I think the idea of it being better this time is pretty mute.

This time the assualt rifle ban is only the beginning of a long list of guns and different kind of tools which will be prohibited for the commons.

You mean 'moot' - meaning of little merit. 'Mute' is the inability to speak.

The type that would own such guns are typically the same that fear the government. Every time gun legislation ends up on the floor, they see it as still further proof of why they need military style weapons to defend themselves.

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I am seeing tons of people I know who own guns. They don't really fear the govt. I think they fear certain people in their society. Who knows why they are all rushing to buy. If the more extreme bills are passed they would lose their money... Would they really shoot an officer to defend their assault rifles? I do not think I would be willing to do that.

what makes you think the ever growing and power taking government will stop by taking scary looking guns?
Handguns kill way more people so they will be next.
After that knifes and bats will kill more people and you gues it already they will be banned or need a license for them.
Hey you can make people killing bombs with Fertilizer? We have to license that just like they do in europe.
Since the UN dictated that only the government should be allowed to use force we better ban pepperspray and any other selfdefence spray as well.
What did i read in the paper.... people use dogs to attack other people? Dogs are too dangerous for the commons they should be banned as well.

i don understand why people need assualt weapons

Who are you afraid of that you need an AK-47 under your bed ?

Because the gun industry and their lobbyist the NRA using it to scare people into buying more guns. It's fear mongering at it's best something the NRA is great at which happens to be good for their main concern, the gun manufacturing industry.

It's not about rights, it's about profits. :2 cents:

Not to mention pre-ban guns from before 1997 are still very,very common. It's not like they get thrown out in the trash or wear out beyond use.

You understand that govt does exactly this. They make laws to protect the people from each other. 200 years and we have yet to ban fertilizer in order to protect children from bombs. I understand a certain amount of mistrust but this is the major role of govt.

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Do you really believe that? You are going to lose access to what? Military type knives?

Because twenty young school children were just brutally murdered?

Right now the general public is stunned that this was able to happen in a public school. Now the general public, who usually doesn't give too much thought to gun control or the 2nd amendment is up in arms because they value their kid's safety a lot more than they value the 2nd amendment.

That's what happens when you kill white kids. Had this happened in the ghetto, no big deal.

As was the last time. :2 cents::2 cents:

Where are you getting that? Which GOP whore talk show host is feeding you this horseshit?

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I really hate to say it, but I think you're probably right. :(

Great question.

You live in a scary world. Stop being such a pussy and being afraid of everything.

A suggestion: Turn off your TV. And I bet the radio isn't doing much for your outlook, either.

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I feel for those kids and their families... but worrying about your kids' safety does not trump our constitution. Not even close. not your kid, not my kid... neither of us as kids.

Yea lets shoot them all. Seriously have you ever visited some of the popular gun forums? The average conspiracy nut here on GFY pales to some of those nut jobs.

It's not the guns that scare people, it's the idiots holding them that do. :2 cents:

I own a gun and want to keep it. Am I a gun nut? far from it. Do i agree with gun nuts. no. Im an american though and if there is one thing that stands above all else... even my own life... thats our constitution.

If we do not hold it to be true then we have nothing and were just a bunch of nomadic Indian rapers with no home nor purpose.

There are things more important than peoples lives... even kids. Besides... a gun didnt kill those kids. A psycho did.


I blame it on gangster rap.

People were scared shitless when the first assault weapons ban went into place and that didn't lead to more bans. It was allowed to expire in fact.

Now they're fearful again, and again it's without cause. The only legislation that Obama passed on guns in his first term was to ALLOW them to be carried into national parks. WHY don't people just get it through their heads that they're fearing fear itself? haha, it's so laughable.

Every responsible gun owner is probably APPLAUDING every single one of the new measures. But there's a LOUD few who just won't tolerate any change, even though their rights are already severely restricted and have been for their entire lives! God, just move on to the next thing.

How about you turn off your TV instead, something i throw out of my window long time ago. I live in your future already and it is called Europe.
Most of the things listed are fucking illegal already here ok.
Pepperspray is a millitary grade weapon and you go many years to jail if you have it. Most knifes are illegal just like all guns for the commons, fertilizer is illegal to own without a license as well. If you defend yourself you go to jail as well in Holland that is with Dutch laws which it seems obama and the other politicians want your laws to go to as well.
If a burglar comes in your house or rapes your wife you may hold the thief but you are not allowed to hit him, you are supposed to hold him and ask him if he waits for the cops in holland by the law.
I know how governments work so i know what they will do next, you however believe whatever they you too so your a lost cause anyway.

Where did you get the idea that the Constitution gives you or anyone else unregulated access to unlimited weaponry?

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And so you live in Europe, and you're afraid? Why? Because you can't buy fertilizer? I'm trying to understand what you're afraid of.

I am not fucking afraid, i am just pointing out why you should not allow them to take your guns as only free country in the world because you will loose many more freedoms.
You can loose your first amendment just as easy as the second one, but i am not scared for you i can deal with you with or without a gun if you come around to force your believes on me.
You sound as european i have to give you that tho you would love it here.

Muslims and blacks seems to be the big fear of my friends who own guns. I know a fair amount of both so I fear the guys with guns who are afraid of the "others". I don't want anyones guns but it seems unreasonable that we can't keep an AR15 out of the hands of a delusional kid's hands.

Crazy people cant buy any gun already ar15 or single shot pistol so your argument is not valid try again.

Jesus Christ.

1. Nobody has proposed "taking our guns". That's gun nut fantasy.

2. We've already HAD an assault weapons ban (see thread subject). Totalitarian rule was not the result. There is NO evidence that tightening regulations to require universal background checks for ALL gun purchases, or banning specific weapons intended for the battlefield will lead to the loss of "many more freedoms." That's gun nut fantasy.

3. Obviously, assault weapons and high capacity magazines couldn't do shit against the US military anyway. Obviously.

4. You're fucking afraid. Of what? :uhoh

How about you study all gun control measures instead of repeating the TV talking points before making your useless comments.
You have no clue what you talk about.

He just shot 26 people and the consensus was that he was unstable. I think we can assume that any of these mass murder nuts are unstable. I would agree that killing a bunch of children might be pretty easy and that there are lots of people who with a nudge could be in that spot but all the more reason to tighten up the access.

Maybe we could all agree that insane people and criminals should have less access to guns and that there might exist ways to make that happen? It doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

How about this guy was not allowed to own any gun because of the anti-gun laws in existing. He had to beat his mom to death to steal her weapons to commit the murders with 4 handguns not with a fucking AR15.

By the way there was a mysterious second shooter.

that law already exist and ALL of this shooters are on psychotropic drugs instead of banning guns you better bann this dangerous drugs who make people shoot innocent kids.

Are you fucking kidding me?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2318421.html

I will no back away from the keyboard. tchau.

How about you get a hold of your paranoia instead of living in the fantasies in your head. You need help.

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I must LOL at the fact the majority of the people who reply to these threads don't even live in the USA.

Why is it we always hear the same bull shit about the Constitution but only when it revolves around Guns. Never hear these same people complaining when free speech or various other rights are being attacked.

Many of the hard core Gun rights people are the same people that will blame gun violence on video games just like the NRA did and will often be the first to try and throw so called freedom of speech under the bus, when it relates to porn.

Oh and I hate to break it to you but YES a gun and the bullets that it shot did kill those kids. Being a psycho alone will not kill anyone and he sure as hell wouldn't have killed 20 people with a knife or a baseball bat.