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leg4 02-29-2012 12:43 PM

For a Paysite Owner...What are the advantages of having NATS setup over Ccbill?
 
For a Paysite Owner...What are the advantages of having NATS setup over Ccbill?


Thanks for your time.

BNMedia 02-29-2012 01:00 PM

NATS isn't necessarily an alternative to CCBill. It can be used in several different configurations and I use both together. :)

If you mean a Merchant account with NATS vs CCBill then I think the advantages would be lower processing fees and possibly less bounced transactions!

It is also has great cascading features which can be used with just about any biller I think.

leg4 02-29-2012 01:05 PM

What about advantages for the Webmasters that promote your program?

Do you find that most prefer using a NATS system?

Over the basic ccbill system?


Thanks again.

venus 02-29-2012 01:29 PM

we dont use either, we use different affliliate software (there are tons of alternatives). But what webmasters are looking for are honest programs who can make them money. If you tell someone you will be paying them 60% of a sale for the life of that sale, then you had better pay it out, just because you are paying out more to webmasters then you make is no excuse to stiff them. You do right by them and they will keep sending you traffic.


Quote:

Originally Posted by leg4 (Post 18790075)
What about advantages for the Webmasters that promote your program?

Do you find that most prefer using a NATS system?

Over the basic ccbill system?


Thanks again.


MrDeiz 02-29-2012 11:13 PM

from affiliate perspective it just makes things more complicated

plain ccbill is just fine

Jakez 02-29-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 18790995)
from affiliate perspective it just makes things more complicated

plain ccbill is just fine

Rly? NATS is 1,000x more pleasant to deal with than ccbill's monster headache of an affiliate panel and linkcodes.

harvey 02-29-2012 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18791009)
Rly? NATS is 1,000x more pleasant to deal with than ccbill's monster headache of an affiliate panel and linkcodes.

just give up, trying to use logic with Daizzy is a lost battle. He has a personal vendetta against TMM because they didn't want to buy ad space from him :Oh crap

leg4 03-01-2012 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18791009)
Rly? NATS is 1,000x more pleasant to deal with than ccbill's monster headache of an affiliate panel and linkcodes.

I hate ccbill from the affiliate side.... as compared to a good nats system.

V_RocKs 03-01-2012 03:49 AM

Reporting wise it is better.

Affiliate wise they can grab all of your tools from a format they are familiar with and that is fast.

Affiliate wise reporting is better.

You can have multiple billers...

leg4 03-03-2012 12:21 AM

There has to be more commentary than this?


This is an outrage!

DarkJedi 03-03-2012 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leg4 (Post 18799267)
There has to be more commentary than this?


This is an outrage!

CCbill pros: they handle the payouts for you

CCbill cons: bad ratios (lots of declined transactions), unusable affiliate admin area, impossible to read stats

CHMOD 03-03-2012 01:19 AM

You have the possibility to keep your CCBill's affiliate program ( Affiliates likes the transparency of a third party sending them checks ) and boost it on steroids with Sliiing! (see my sig)

Very quick features:

1- Offer to your affiliates and yourself professional statistic tools + professional promotion tools.

2- Offer to your customers european Direct pay WITH recurrings ( CCBill do not offers recurrings with their Direct Pay )

3- Offer international telephone billing + sms billing solutions + backup credit card billing. We track the sales and pay your affiliates for you.

4- We are 100% compatible with CCBill. There is no link to change anywhere.

5- Even when you use our software, you stay 100% a CCBill sponsor. Our software is just a major enhancement to your existing setup.

6- The setup is an easy process. Takes around 30 min to install.

With Sliiing, you get the advantages of staying a CCBill sponsor and you get the advantages of using a robust and profesionnal affiliate software.

Major (Tom) 03-03-2012 02:49 AM

fuck ccbill

SmutHammer 03-03-2012 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18799285)
CCbill pros: they handle the payouts for you

CCbill cons: bad ratios (lots of declined transactions), unusable affiliate admin area, impossible to read stats

You can use Nats and ccbill together = Ccbill payouts, with Nats cascading.

DarkJedi 03-03-2012 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18799451)
You can use Nats and ccbill together = Ccbill payouts, with Nats cascading.

That's cool.

But there's still this problem with CCbill declining a TON of transactions.

Django 03-03-2012 08:13 AM

is Verotel comparable to these two? (almost OT, sorry)

Blackcrow 03-03-2012 08:21 AM

CCBill is now offering live support for declined sales - interesting to see how that changes things. Live support is a hard one to beat and sure does make cascading seem like old-school.

TheSenator 03-03-2012 08:33 AM

I don't care what system they are using, just as long as the pay and pay on time.

SmutHammer 03-03-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18799486)
That's cool.

But there's still this problem with CCbill declining a TON of transactions.

that's what the cascading is for. from my understanding there are over 20 billers half work with ccbill and ccbill will still send the payments to your afiliates. just gotta delete the ones that don't this way you don't have to cut checks too, not sure why any program owner would want this headache.... We are setting up a Nats affiliate program now, but making sure everything will still be auto set up for Ccbill to do all of our payouts.

icymelon 03-03-2012 12:39 PM

nats makes it easy to provide tools to affiliates to promote your site. more tools = more traffic=more sales

Naughty-Pages 03-03-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18791009)
Rly? NATS is 1,000x more pleasant to deal with than ccbill's monster headache of an affiliate panel and linkcodes.

Agreed.. I promote several hundred programs.. the ccbill ones kind of get put on the side 90% of the time (unless it's an unusually awesome proggy) because the ease of getting to promo tools, etc is much faster and easier with NATS.

BNMedia 03-03-2012 06:19 PM

I use CCBill with NATS.
Affiliates receive all the comforts of a CCBill Paid program with all the perks of NATS 4.1.
See http://nats.cash4kicks.net
:thumbsup


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