For a Paysite Owner...What are the advantages of having NATS setup over Ccbill?

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  • leg4
    Confirmed User
    • May 2003
    • 4429

    #1

    For a Paysite Owner...What are the advantages of having NATS setup over Ccbill?

    For a Paysite Owner...What are the advantages of having NATS setup over Ccbill?


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  • BNMedia
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2009
    • 433

    #2
    NATS isn't necessarily an alternative to CCBill. It can be used in several different configurations and I use both together.

    If you mean a Merchant account with NATS vs CCBill then I think the advantages would be lower processing fees and possibly less bounced transactions!

    It is also has great cascading features which can be used with just about any biller I think.
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    • leg4
      Confirmed User
      • May 2003
      • 4429

      #3
      What about advantages for the Webmasters that promote your program?

      Do you find that most prefer using a NATS system?

      Over the basic ccbill system?


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      • venus
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2003
        • 3112

        #4
        we dont use either, we use different affliliate software (there are tons of alternatives). But what webmasters are looking for are honest programs who can make them money. If you tell someone you will be paying them 60% of a sale for the life of that sale, then you had better pay it out, just because you are paying out more to webmasters then you make is no excuse to stiff them. You do right by them and they will keep sending you traffic.


        Originally posted by leg4
        What about advantages for the Webmasters that promote your program?

        Do you find that most prefer using a NATS system?

        Over the basic ccbill system?


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        • MrDeiz
          • May 2008
          • 9802

          #5
          from affiliate perspective it just makes things more complicated

          plain ccbill is just fine
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          • Jakez
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2004
            • 5656

            #6
            Originally posted by MrDeiz
            from affiliate perspective it just makes things more complicated

            plain ccbill is just fine
            Rly? NATS is 1,000x more pleasant to deal with than ccbill's monster headache of an affiliate panel and linkcodes.
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            • harvey
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 9266

              #7
              Originally posted by Jakez
              Rly? NATS is 1,000x more pleasant to deal with than ccbill's monster headache of an affiliate panel and linkcodes.
              just give up, trying to use logic with Daizzy is a lost battle. He has a personal vendetta against TMM because they didn't want to buy ad space from him
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              • leg4
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                • May 2003
                • 4429

                #8
                Originally posted by Jakez
                Rly? NATS is 1,000x more pleasant to deal with than ccbill's monster headache of an affiliate panel and linkcodes.
                I hate ccbill from the affiliate side.... as compared to a good nats system.
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                • V_RocKs
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                  • Nov 2003
                  • 32447

                  #9
                  Reporting wise it is better.

                  Affiliate wise they can grab all of your tools from a format they are familiar with and that is fast.

                  Affiliate wise reporting is better.

                  You can have multiple billers...

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                  • leg4
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                    • May 2003
                    • 4429

                    #10
                    There has to be more commentary than this?


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                    • DarkJedi
                      No Refunds Issued.
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 28301

                      #11
                      Originally posted by leg4
                      There has to be more commentary than this?


                      This is an outrage!
                      CCbill pros: they handle the payouts for you

                      CCbill cons: bad ratios (lots of declined transactions), unusable affiliate admin area, impossible to read stats

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                      • CHMOD
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 1697

                        #12
                        You have the possibility to keep your CCBill's affiliate program ( Affiliates likes the transparency of a third party sending them checks ) and boost it on steroids with Sliiing! (see my sig)

                        Very quick features:

                        1- Offer to your affiliates and yourself professional statistic tools + professional promotion tools.

                        2- Offer to your customers european Direct pay WITH recurrings ( CCBill do not offers recurrings with their Direct Pay )

                        3- Offer international telephone billing + sms billing solutions + backup credit card billing. We track the sales and pay your affiliates for you.

                        4- We are 100% compatible with CCBill. There is no link to change anywhere.

                        5- Even when you use our software, you stay 100% a CCBill sponsor. Our software is just a major enhancement to your existing setup.

                        6- The setup is an easy process. Takes around 30 min to install.

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                        • Major (Tom)
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 32492

                          #13
                          fuck ccbill

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                          • SmutHammer
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4301

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DarkJedi
                            CCbill pros: they handle the payouts for you

                            CCbill cons: bad ratios (lots of declined transactions), unusable affiliate admin area, impossible to read stats
                            You can use Nats and ccbill together = Ccbill payouts, with Nats cascading.

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                            • DarkJedi
                              No Refunds Issued.
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 28301

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ed Hammer
                              You can use Nats and ccbill together = Ccbill payouts, with Nats cascading.
                              That's cool.

                              But there's still this problem with CCbill declining a TON of transactions.

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                              • Django
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 2578

                                #16
                                is Verotel comparable to these two? (almost OT, sorry)

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                                • Blackcrow
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jul 2008
                                  • 77

                                  #17
                                  CCBill is now offering live support for declined sales - interesting to see how that changes things. Live support is a hard one to beat and sure does make cascading seem like old-school.

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                                  • TheSenator
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 13340

                                    #18
                                    I don't care what system they are using, just as long as the pay and pay on time.
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                                    • SmutHammer
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2008
                                      • 4301

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                      That's cool.

                                      But there's still this problem with CCbill declining a TON of transactions.
                                      that's what the cascading is for. from my understanding there are over 20 billers half work with ccbill and ccbill will still send the payments to your afiliates. just gotta delete the ones that don't this way you don't have to cut checks too, not sure why any program owner would want this headache.... We are setting up a Nats affiliate program now, but making sure everything will still be auto set up for Ccbill to do all of our payouts.

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                                      • icymelon
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2007
                                        • 3220

                                        #20
                                        nats makes it easy to provide tools to affiliates to promote your site. more tools = more traffic=more sales
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                                        • Naughty-Pages
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2006
                                          • 4533

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Jakez
                                          Rly? NATS is 1,000x more pleasant to deal with than ccbill's monster headache of an affiliate panel and linkcodes.
                                          Agreed.. I promote several hundred programs.. the ccbill ones kind of get put on the side 90% of the time (unless it's an unusually awesome proggy) because the ease of getting to promo tools, etc is much faster and easier with NATS.

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                                          • BNMedia
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2009
                                            • 433

                                            #22
                                            I use CCBill with NATS.
                                            Affiliates receive all the comforts of a CCBill Paid program with all the perks of NATS 4.1.
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