Blacklists, ahoy! PROTECT IP Act sails on to Senate floor
 

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Rogue sites and their operators contribute nothing to the US economy. They do not innovate, they do not pay taxes, they do not follow safety standards, and they do not follow the law. Today’s vote serves as a wakeup call to those who illicitly profit at the expense of American businesses and consumers—the US will not tolerate your careless, reckless, malicious behavior.

this would be the best that we could hope for - need Europe to go along with this though.

what about the rest of the internet ?:2 cents:

the worst offending tube sites and file lockers and pirate forums/blogs are non-American - even Manwin is European/Canadian. so how as a copyright owner do I go to an American court and tell them to shut down a site owned by a European and hosted in Europe?

Very simple,if they dont respond in court,then add their domain/ip/whatever to dns blacklist.

But everyone in China gets to see the content?

:thumbsup

If only the chicken shit politicians used the same standards for illegal immigration.

:disgust

Post proof or ban.

Source Plox? This could be really good news for content owners.

sounds good to me for actual producers left on board. :thumbsup

you still end up with no american search engines or sites being able to link which limits traffic.

Why bother for China and other non-usa countries?Usa is key market anyway.

Yeah, they aren't shutting down the sites. They are blocking them from the U.S.

Which means that if you are in the U.S. the only way to see them would be via a proxy.

Sure some people will do that. But 99.9% won't. And the U.S. is the biggest consumer of porn in the world. :)

Hey somebody better call up Fabian and let him know "his" "empire" is in trouble.

Don't know if anyone can get through to him though, after all he is such a bigshot and Manwin is so big that none of us can understand it.

We'd see how big Manwin is without all that traffic he's getting from stolen content now wouldn't we?

the previous version passed unanimously too

guess what it got killed pretty dam quickly


don't bet on this bill passing

and even if it does
don't expect it to survive the court challenge.

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If yuo actually believe that's the purpose. Any pornographer for this law thinking the US government will seize "illigtimate" porn sites is a fool. ALL porn is illegitimate to the government. The government doesn't care is "legitimate" porn goes out of business. when the feds use this law to take YOUR sites well I told you so.

I could swear that there was nothing said about "taking" sites.

It's about blacklisting copyright infringing sites from the United States.

Robbie,

1) oh if you would only understand PROTECT IP Act and realize it does not affect any of the Manwin Tubes.

2) Notice that PROTECT IP is already basically killed? They will never get around Wyden's block of it that he put on it a matter of hours after PROTECT IP Act passed the commitee in the senate?

BTW, for anyone that is wondering why I said 1) ...

This is the bill: http://leahy.senate.gov/imo/media/do...OTECTIPAct.pdf
Read Section 2, (7) (A) (i) and (ii).

Ever notice how you hardly get any spam in your inbox now days?

Lawsuits didn't stop spam, laws didn't stop spam, technology did.

If you idiots would spend half as much time developing automated anti-piracy technology (which when it exists mind you is technically a requirement of the DMCA for sites to allow/implement) as you did whining piracy would not be an issue.

There are a few companies that actually do proactively protect their content through all the automated systems available to them - and you won't find their content anywhere on the tubes/torrents/etc.

It's a technical challenge, not a legal one - but half of you idiots make your living running piece of shit websites and despite operating online business, barely scrape by on the technical side.

So because of your incompetence and laziness you pray for the day Governments around the world take complete control of the internet... sad.

If you read the quote from the OP you will see that I pulled out the statement by the Chamber of Commerce and posted that...

not viewable from ukraine. maybe daniel can fix that :thumbsup

The word significant will surely be the main argument in court cases. If Pirate Bay has an active forum where people chat, does that mean their site isn't solely for piracy? Is it significant enough?

The Pirate Bay is a whole different story. My comment was to Robbie who thought I would lose all my tube sites...

Of course, it's just an example of someone they'll obviously go after, and what strategies target sites will make to pre-empt the language of the law, giving themselves an argument in court.

My feeling is also that it will be a stretch for this to apply to the major tubes.

Chinese Internet firewall finally came to the "land of free". Congrats on it :thumbsup :1orglaugh

The road to Hell is paved with the best intentions.

Laws are written and passed every day to get real bad guys locked up and then used against everyone just for a conviction.

i guess your too stupid to see my post above

I guess you are too stupid to believe that I read your shit.

and i didn't say read i said see

scanning the names down the side would take 5-10 seconds

the stupid part is not taking those 10 seconds before posting something so obviously wrong.

I will be watching to see how this one shakes out.

USA is indeed key but the markets in Europe, Latin America and Japan are nothing to sneeze at either.

Looks like this Senator pocketed over $16,000 from Google so far this year. I wonder who else contributed to his "problem" with this legislation?

Link to list of contributors

Link to Article

It is said that we have the best congress money can buy. If we, as an industry, contributed more to congressmen, judges, and city council races....we just might have a few more victories under our belts.

Just my opinion.:disgust

True perhaps. At AVN a couple of years ago, an attorney on a Legal Issues panel said just that. Contribute to both sides. Some may return your donation but the others will at least give due consideration to point. Haven't tried it myself but makes sense.

it interesting how you believe a senator "problem" with the bill is bought yet all the money spent to get the bill in the first place is corupting in any way shape or form.

you might want to check the guys voting record, he has been pro free speech for years

google money went to guys who are pro free speech, not the other way around.

I don't believe that any politician will ever be on our side.

It would be political suicide in todays uptight and sexually repressed American society. We all know that everybody loves porn...and everybody denies it.

I don't really see content theft as a free speech issue.

it not

it everything else that get caught in the net when copyright holders use these over reaching laws to take down/redefine fair use.

As I recall, the intellectual property laws were in place long before the Internet so where is the redefining happening?

Seems to me that the thieves are trying to do all the redefining.

how about trying reverse the timeshifting ruling that allows me to get a commercial free timeshifted version from the swarm


or arguing that timeshifting never allowed distribution (to justify disallowing using torrents as a vcr)

even though mpaa failed to get tape locking (preventing a recording from playing in any vcr that didn't record the content)

a failure which clearly proves that distribution (lending a copy of the show to someone else who missed it) was covered by the original right.


and don't get me started on commentary, backup, recover.

You made my point for me that the thieves are redefining the copyright laws.

What is thieving today may be legit tomorrow at the copyright holder's expense.

what the fuck are you talking about

when the vcr first established the right of timeshifting

it include the right to make a commercial free "permanent collection" (see quote from the vcr debates in congress)




yet if i use the swarm as the medium for that "permanent collection" copyright holders are arguing that infringing.

that clearly trying to reverse a right i have already been grant

to try and make the new technology (torrents) inferior to the old technology (Betamax).

Betamax is inferior to torrents on a technology scale, gideon. Just to clear that up. It's the decades, not the argument.

Pretty sure that law only applies to someone taping something from a source they originally paid for or had rights to. I can't tap into my neighbours cable and "backup" what's coming through his signal, well I can, but it's not legal.

Doing so would be illegal beyond the stealing cable aspect, or tampering with their equipment - because, it would be displaying it to a large audience. Same way bars have to pay a different licensing fee to show a pay per view event in public, or why you can't buy a DVD and sell tickets for people to watch it.

If letting 500 people watch a DVD I purchased is illegal, then why is it okay to share it with 500 strangers on the internet?