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gideongallery 05-30-2011 01:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18177447)
The reason I call you names is because you are either deliberately acting stupid or you are. Either way it makes you look incredible inept to me.

I'll explain this to you slowly...Since 1996 I ran TGP's.
Around 2001 I stopped taking submissions because my traffic was too valuable and I made a lot more money off of hosted galleries.

I signed up for over 400 programs and ran their galleries.

THAT is what I would do with your tubes. I would sign up for all those programs, then I would go to each one and ASK for some of their older vids...perhaps ones that were already on Pornhub in the past.

Then I would set up trusted accounts for paysite owners only. Then I would CAREFULLY set up the page templates for their videos based on the niche of their sites. Keeping the pre-paid shit less "spammy" looking so the page actually makes some sense and has the ability to sell something for the pre-paid sponsor AND the video owner.

And finally I would look at each vid uploaded. And I would personally decide which ones went up each day.

Just like a TGP operated.

No need for DMCA or stealing.

And I'd set this all up while the current Pornhub was still live. Once everything was in place I'd flip the switch and change you from being a hated thief into being the biggest and most profitable affiliate in the world.

That good enough for you? I was willing to come to see you personally and map this out.

Why? Because you're my bestest friend in the world?
No.
Because I believe that if I could make Manwin enough money doing things the right way, that it could be an industry changer and help raise up many of these paysites from the dead. Which would increase production across the board and make the entire industry healthier.

If the biggest tubes in the world (Manwin's) followed this plan and were successful, then others would naturally fall in line. Just like they fell in line naturally with the current fucked up system.

There you go Fabian.
what you are discribing is the mininova ing of manwin

that exactly what mininova did after they lost the big case (because they obeyed the DMCA instead of their own countries laws btw)

http://torrentfreak.com/cyberlockers...-sites-110111/

they went from top 100 site to top 3-4 million range

file lockers and other torrent sites took over

same exact thing happened to rapid share when they made similar changes

gideongallery 05-30-2011 05:31 PM
bump for robbie brilliant idea to mininova manwin


to bad anyone with half a brain can see that will do nothing but drive all the traffic to other tube sites

just like it did for mininova

and rapid share when they tried the same failed idea.

Agent 488 05-30-2011 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18178228)
and rapid share when they tried the same failed idea.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rapidshare.com

gideongallery 05-30-2011 06:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18178239)
and they actually realized their mistake and reversed their actions and they still lost traffic forever

and robbie brilliant idea is to do the same thing to manwin

Robbie 05-30-2011 06:23 PM
I'm so glad I have gideongallery on ignore.

I don't even have to LOOK at his posts to already know that he is ranting and raving that Pornhub should continue using stolen content.

He is so fucking pro-stealing that it's totally predictable.

GG, whatever it is you're doing in this thread, please realize that you have no business here. Hell, you should be banned from GFY anyway because you're not even in our industry.

Nobody takes you seriously and nobody ever will. Now do your parents a favor and go get a damn job.

topnotch, standup guy 05-30-2011 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18177515)
...I also know that we offer technical means to make sure your content never even gets up on our tubes.
Really ? ? ? ?

Please provide a link to the page where people can take advantage of those technical means of which you speak.

Or, as I rather suspect, are you talking in terms if selling "protection" to smaller programs? :winkwink:

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gideongallery 05-30-2011 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18178274)
I'm so glad I have gideongallery on ignore.

I don't even have to LOOK at his posts to already know that he is ranting and raving that Pornhub should continue using stolen content.

He is so fucking pro-stealing that it's totally predictable.
nope just pointing out how astromomically stupid you have to be to believe that mininova ing manwin would actually work.

Quote:
GG, whatever it is you're doing in this thread, please realize that you have no business here. Hell, you should be banned from GFY anyway because you're not even in our industry.

Nobody takes you seriously and nobody ever will. Now do your parents a favor and go get a damn job.

i realize your an idiot who is too stupid to come up with an original idea ever so of course you think doing something as stupid as copying the failed mininova plan would work

but i have enough respect for the concept of free speech that i would never call for you to be censored.

i always find it amazing that a person who's entire living based on the 1st ammendment always pulls out the "you should be banned" card.

gideongallery 05-31-2011 05:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18177447)
The reason I call you names is because you are either deliberately acting stupid or you are. Either way it makes you look incredible inept to me.

I'll explain this to you slowly...Since 1996 I ran TGP's.
Around 2001 I stopped taking submissions because my traffic was too valuable and I made a lot more money off of hosted galleries.

I signed up for over 400 programs and ran their galleries.

THAT is what I would do with your tubes. I would sign up for all those programs, then I would go to each one and ASK for some of their older vids...perhaps ones that were already on Pornhub in the past.

Then I would set up trusted accounts for paysite owners only. Then I would CAREFULLY set up the page templates for their videos based on the niche of their sites. Keeping the pre-paid shit less "spammy" looking so the page actually makes some sense and has the ability to sell something for the pre-paid sponsor AND the video owner.

And finally I would look at each vid uploaded. And I would personally decide which ones went up each day.

Just like a TGP operated.

No need for DMCA or stealing.

And I'd set this all up while the current Pornhub was still live. Once everything was in place I'd flip the switch and change you from being a hated thief into being the biggest and most profitable affiliate in the world.

That good enough for you? I was willing to come to see you personally and map this out.

Why? Because you're my bestest friend in the world?
No.
Because I believe that if I could make Manwin enough money doing things the right way, that it could be an industry changer and help raise up many of these paysites from the dead. Which would increase production across the board and make the entire industry healthier.

If the biggest tubes in the world (Manwin's) followed this plan and were successful, then others would naturally fall in line. Just like they fell in line naturally with the current fucked up system.

There you go Fabian.
bump to showcase robbie's brilliant idea to mininova manwin's tube sites



copying the business plan that dropped mininova from a top 100 to top 4 million would definately work if robbie did it :winkwink::winkwink:

topnotch, standup guy 05-31-2011 04:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18177761)
what you are discribing is the mininova ing of manwin that exactly what mininova did after they lost the big case....
Yeah, whatever.

Hey! Let's talk about something interesting like... branding bugs :)

I remember how you used go on at great length discussing those little critters and how GFY content producers should stop worrying about tubes and make bank by just letting a few of them crawl (or maybe it was fly) around the set.

Thing is, I never quite grasped how that worked in practice.

It would be really great if you could explain to the assembled multitude here, yet again, just how branding bugs work :)

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Robbie 05-31-2011 05:00 PM
Hey topnotch, don't forget that he also invented a torrent recorder. And he also teaches local bands how to become major superstars by giving away everything for free, and he only charges them $5000 to do so.
Oh and of course the branding bugs! His ridiculous idea for something that Hollywood has done for decades. Only problem is NO mainstream product will ever pay to be part of a PORN movie. Matter of fact, if you accidentally have their shit prominently displayed (like a close up of a coke bottle for instance) they will sue your ass.

This isn't Hollywood. This is porn. But "he whose name must not be spoken" thinks he has all the answers. Even though he has never done ONE thing in porn. (Or out of it, with the exception of his fantasies of being a lawyer, master marketer, consulting firm for bands, and inventor of the torrent recorder)

He really needs to go GET A JOB.

homegrownmof 05-31-2011 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18177626)
Robbie, none of the things you have mentioned are things we have not looked into, tested or are still testing today...

I am the last one to say that the way we monetize our sites is perfect, but it is far better than you think it is.

Thanks for the real discussion btw.
I dont have an issue with "legal tubes", as you know, but i do question why there are basically no enforced rules for blocking kids from viewing online porn.

you cant as a kid go waltzing into a brick and mortar adult store- in fact you cant even look in the window.

yet a 5 yr old with a smartphone can watch all the midget tranny sites he/she wants.

why doesnt the govt try to put all porn at least behind a payment adult verification wall?

at that point it wouldnt be about stopping user -gen content, but more about keeping porn behind an adult verification wall.

no "dangerous limitation of free speech"- just matching the brick and mortar law to web community

just curious

gideongallery 05-31-2011 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18181543)
Hey topnotch, don't forget that he also invented a torrent recorder. And he also teaches local bands how to become major superstars by giving away everything for free, and he only charges them $5000 to do so.
Oh and of course the branding bugs! His ridiculous idea for something that Hollywood has done for decades. Only problem is NO mainstream product will ever pay to be part of a PORN movie. Matter of fact, if you accidentally have their shit prominently displayed (like a close up of a coke bottle for instance) they will sue your ass.

This isn't Hollywood. This is porn. But "he whose name must not be spoken" thinks he has all the answers. Even though he has never done ONE thing in porn. (Or out of it, with the exception of his fantasies of being a lawyer, master marketer, consulting firm for bands, and inventor of the torrent recorder)

He really needs to go GET A JOB.
the moron to stupid to realize that his "plan" was to basically copy the failed attempt of mininova to go legit doesn't understand how to do product placement in porn

big surprise.

topnotch, standup guy 05-31-2011 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18181543)
Hey topnotch, don't forget that he also invented a torrent recorder. And he also teaches local bands how to become major superstars by giving away everything for free, and he only charges them $5000 to do so.
Wow! Gideon's a regular renaissance man isn't he? :1orglaugh


Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18181543)
He really needs to go GET A JOB.
Yeah, but god help the fast food manager who eventually hires him.



BTW, what's the real deal with Fabian's claim to offer "technical means" to make sure, as he puts it, that peoples content never gets up on his tubes?

Is he dabbling in the "protection" business now too?
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gideongallery 06-01-2011 04:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by homegrownmof (Post 18181629)
no "dangerous limitation of free speech"- just matching the brick and mortar law to web community

just curious
really when was the last time a 5 year old with just his dad credit card info got access to the porn area of the video store.

most paysites would not be able to survive if brick and mortar verification was required to grant access.


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