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DateDoc 05-31-2010 09:38 AM

Will you buy a Tesla Model S Sedan?
 
Toyota is investing $50m in Tesla. Tesla is buying Toyota's NUMMI plant in Freemont, CA to produce the cars.

I have to say it is one of the better, if not best looking, electric cars. 300 mile range on a charge make it practical even for those with a long commute and 5+ passenger seating is a bonus. 0-60mph in 5.6 seconds. Est. MSRP $50k.

http://imgur.com/46WTI.jpg

http://imgur.com/pJ1hN.jpg

L-Pink 05-31-2010 09:42 AM

No I wouldn't. 300 mile range means 250 without worry which means I would need another nice car for any kind of trip.

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L-Pink 05-31-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 17193157)
No I wouldn't. 300 mile range means 250 without worry which means I would need another nice car for any kind of trip.

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Business opp: A series of tit bars with charging facilities every 150 miles located along interstate highways :1orglaugh

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Amputate Your Head 05-31-2010 09:45 AM

it's Fremont, CA

and no.... won't be buying an overpriced electric car any time soon.

cwd 05-31-2010 09:54 AM

if i had 50k to drop, yeah, you bet.

Amputate Your Head 05-31-2010 09:54 AM

Also, word around here is that Tesla is only going to be using a portion of the NUMMI plant, and of course they are much much smaller than Toyota and will not need nearly as many workers.... so, Tesla may re-employ some of the out-of-work NUMMI workers, but most are stilled just as fucked as before.

On a positive note, it's better than 100% of NUMMI workers being fucked.

DateDoc 05-31-2010 09:59 AM

I am sure they cannot hire all the workers but if the car takes off, and I think it will do well, it gives them space to grow and hire more people.

Amputate Your Head 05-31-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17193215)
I am sure they cannot hire all the workers but if the car takes off, and I think it will do well, it gives them space to grow and hire more people.

Yeah, I'm not against the deal at all... I'm glad they decided to make use of a giant empty plant as well as keeping their manufacturing close to home. But I have family & friends that lost 20+ year careers when NUMMI shut down. Not looking to Tesla to save their jobs. There just aren't enough to go round.

I do love the look of their cars too.... I just think they are outrageously priced.

DateDoc 05-31-2010 10:04 AM

Hopefully as manufacturing and demand increase the price will drop some.

DaddyHalbucks 05-31-2010 10:04 AM

Yes, in a heart beat. I can't wait to stop buying gas.

yuu.design 05-31-2010 10:05 AM

looks so cool!

L-Pink 05-31-2010 10:08 AM

So a nice Camry costs $25,000 and is just slightly slower 0-60. Where did the other $25,000 go ... ?


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SmokeyTheBear 05-31-2010 10:10 AM

wonder how long it takes to re-charge

Amputate Your Head 05-31-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17193261)
wonder how long it takes to re-charge

That's the 2nd biggest downside to these things. If you take a trip and need to stop to "re-fuel" (recharge), are you going to have to sit in some shit hole town for 8 hours while the fucking car recharges?

Not practical.

DiF0r 05-31-2010 10:21 AM

looks cool but they are way too expensive.. But I would love to have an electric car in the future.. 300mile range is enough for me

DamianJ 05-31-2010 10:25 AM

Fuck it, no. Keep driving massively large gas guzzlers and starting illegal wars. Who the FUCK needs an electric car when we can just fight the towelheads until Haliburton can get in and build a pipe to the REAL WORLD!!!

Danny B 05-31-2010 10:28 AM

Not practical just yet for the big trips, but if I would still be living in Holland I TOTALLY would have gotten one. Work >> home is only 25 miles.

It looks fucking sweet AND rips MANY new ones in traffic light drag races.

Excellent move Toyota and Tesla!

DateDoc 05-31-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17193261)
wonder how long it takes to re-charge

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17193267)
That's the 2nd biggest downside to these things. If you take a trip and need to stop to "re-fuel" (recharge), are you going to have to sit in some shit hole town for 8 hours while the fucking car recharges?

Not practical.

45 minute quick charge.

Amputate Your Head 05-31-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17193324)
45 minute quick charge.

I really wish I knew more about the engineering of these things.
Petroleum fueled vehicles have alternators that keep the battery(s) charged. Do these electric vehicles not make use of that basic system? Why do they need to be plugged in and charged at all?

Platinumpimp 05-31-2010 10:33 AM

Looks like shit, buy something german instead. They know how to build cars.

Moreover, these cars are actually harming the enviroment more than a similar petrol car.

Oracle Porn 05-31-2010 11:01 AM

there won't be any need to recharge...."gas" station will have batteries you could just swap and go.

Amputate Your Head 05-31-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 17193447)
there won't be any need to recharge...."gas" station will have batteries you could just swap and go.

Swapping batteries is hardly convenient.

DateDoc 05-31-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17193451)
Swapping batteries is hardly convenient.

They designed it to be done in 5 minutes.

Gerco 05-31-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 17193252)
So a nice Camry costs $25,000 and is just slightly slower 0-60. Where did the other $25,000 go ... ?


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Batteries. It really the most expensive part of the car. You can make a prius all electric also, the kit cost about 11k due to the batteries and you will not get 300 miles out of it...

ottopottomouse 05-31-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17193141)

Looks quite Aston Martin from that angle.

ottopottomouse 05-31-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 17193164)
Business opp: A series of tit bars with charging facilities every 150 miles located along interstate highways

Used to be a lot of roadside cafes/diners and small hotels/restaurants/pubs here (UK) that have mostly closed down now and i'm sure that how easy modern cars make it to do big distances in comfort is part of the reason why. When I was a kid there was no way my dads car could have managed what my car now can in a couple of hours.

Restrictions on range with a charging time before you could carry on would probably help that sort of thing make a comeback.

ottopottomouse 05-31-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17193451)
Swapping batteries is hardly convenient.

Swapping batteries is going to the most sensible way of a quick stop. It's only a similar thing to how they used to change horses on horse-drawn carriages.

Amputate Your Head 05-31-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17193518)
Swapping batteries is going to the most sensible way of a quick stop. It's only a similar thing to how they used to change horses on horse-drawn carriages.

Still not practical though. You're talking about stations having spare charged batteries for everyone, everywhere. If not, you are restricted as to where you can go, or how fast you can go there. I don't like restrictions like that. I'll be sticking with my 10 mpg lifted Dodge Ram asskicker that goes anywhere.

L-Pink 05-31-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 17193488)
Batteries. It really the most expensive part of the car. You can make a prius all electric also, the kit cost about 11k due to the batteries and you will not get 300 miles out of it...

That's paying upfront for 200,000 miles of gasoline :Oh crap


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JFK 05-31-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17193305)
Fuck it, no. Keep driving massively large gas guzzlers and starting illegal wars. Who the FUCK needs an electric car when we can just fight the towelheads until Haliburton can get in and build a pipe to the REAL WORLD!!!

YES... YES.... YEEEEEEESSSSS............... now you talking:thumbsup

But I still like the car :winkwink:

Amputate Your Head 05-31-2010 11:33 AM

This kind of shit really is amusing to me. You have some people that are like, "Electric cars are the way to go and if you don't you hate the Earth".

How much oil does it take to manufacture these electric cars?
How much oil will it take to produce millions of batteries for them?
How much oil will be burned trucking batteries to stations all over the country?
How much oil will be burned producing electricity to recharge all these millions of batteries?

All you're doing is buying a novelty to make yourself feel better. I don't see oil consumption being reduced by any amount that matters, simply by putting electric cars on the road. Like I've said before, you need a replacement for oil, period. That's when it will make a difference.

Poindexterity 05-31-2010 01:56 PM

50 g's is still WAY outta my price range, but considering the original tesla roadster was like 250,000, i'd actually call that fucker reasonably priced.

2MuchMark 05-31-2010 02:00 PM

YES
In a heartbeat.

Denny 05-31-2010 02:04 PM

yup, it looks very cool :thumbsup

JD 05-31-2010 02:16 PM

it's a good looking sedan but i don't think the world is ready for full electric cars for the masses

CYF 05-31-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Poindexterity (Post 17194030)
50 g's is still WAY outta my price range, but considering the original tesla roadster was like 250,000, i'd actually call that fucker reasonably priced.

the next model should be even more reasonably priced :2 cents:

Roby 05-31-2010 03:04 PM

great car...

Davy 05-31-2010 03:12 PM

50 million? That's all they invest? That's pretty much peanuts for them. I guess they still are going to bank on their oil guzzlers for a whole while...

MaDalton 05-31-2010 05:56 PM

people keep forgetting that electric power must be produced too. unless you don't heavily invest in alternative energies like wind, solar or the like electric cars are not any better than a modern diesel. look into something like a VW Jetta TDI - they do like 50 or 60 mpg

Spunky 05-31-2010 06:01 PM

It looks sharp but not a huge fan of electric cars.they seem whimpy compared to the gas guzzlers


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