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Say goodbye to single payer option in health care reform
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091216/..._care_overhaul
That's a victory for the United States of America. Hoorah Also this: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12...y5987341.shtml Let us thank the genius Obama Administration and the Federal Reserve. Thanks Guys! |
No need to say goodbye to something that was never really going to happen in the first place.
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Well mr new president what next? Business as usual, Bush with a tan.
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There will still be a form of a public option only it will come in the form of the government paying for a lot of people's insurance coverage. In a way I guess that is better since it would allow people to pick what company and coverage they want to go with, but I wonder if it will actually end up being cheaper in the long run. I think a lot of that has to do with what other reforms they actually pass. Will this end up actually being a health care reform, or just another way to throw money at health insurance companies?
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A victory? lmao Now what you have is nothing more than a insurance company bailout which is what it's been about the whole time. If you don't buy insurance you go to jail and/or fined. Insurance prices "may" go down for a year or two but they'll skyrocket before you know it. Government regulating you buy something from a private company or face penalties. What a damn joke. This is nothing more than a power grab by the government. The government is broke so they need to come up with a new way to take more of your money.. Along with adding new ways to kill you quicker. The only victory is if this thing goes away all together and the insurance companies (AIG) and the overgrown US government are allowed to fail.
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And if we have social health care, think of the illegal Canadians that will move here! Quote:
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I know you people want America to fail but Black Jesus will save us! |
goodbye to single payer option in health care reform
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Shame those filthy conservatives pay most of the tax and operate a significant portion of your countries business. Reminds me of what Mugabe did in Zimbabwae ... getting rid of all those evil whiteys so the land was returned to the people. That worked out well didn't it ;) |
The whole thing about this health care reform that pisses me off is the cost and that they MANDATE AND REQUIRE people to purchase these plans.. Why the fuck should I have to pay 12.5K per year to cover my family when the insurance I have now only costs me $1500 a year
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I'm wondering if you copied the first two sentences verbatim from one of today's article but no matter. A victory in that it will never pass. |
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Gotta love the double standards. This country will never be rid of conservatives because we are the majority. We should have gotten rid of the liberals decades ago but failed. Now Obama is driving the liberals to extinction himself with his hilarious deficit spending not matched even by the Bush administration. I would show you the charts again but you'll bitch over the sources, only later to claim that you are purposely posting bullshit like a retard. |
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What makes you think your premiums will jump from $1500 to 12.5K? |
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You would be surprised how untrue that is ( it is repeated tyo the point of coming an Urban Legend ... ). ..Warren Buffet /// Bill Gates .... and so on ... But please, if it makes you feel good, believe in it... As for the topic, I think it is great news ... no reasons why poor people would have the same healthcare as rich people .... :1orglaugh |
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There are multiple issues that are predominantly supported by the left. I think that is a question that you did not mean to ask. Kane is correct when he says that the majority of people are moderates/centrists and have little use for the left or the right...specifically the far left and the far right. BTW...registered Democrats outnumber Republicans though the Republicans have been closing the gap over the past 20-30 years. |
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Social issues that are pretty liberal: -Medical Marijuana. (many even say in 2010 we will see a measure on the ballot in California to fully legalize/decriminalize pot) - Gay marriage. - Health care reform. Let's not fool ourselves. The republicans have no interests in health care reform. They wouldn't even be talking about this matter if it weren't for the democrats. If the republicans held the senate and house there would be no health care reform bill. Those are three pretty big topics in this country and they all stem from the left. Here is something from Gallup http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/co...cal-group.aspx While conservatives make up the single largest group in the country overall, they are not the majority. Only 40% of people (according to this poll) consider themselves conservative. That means that 60% do not. If you scroll down you can see the detailed breakdown where we see moderates leading the detailed political ideology breakdown. You could argue that the conservative and very conservative groups together still equal 40% and that is more than the moderates, but I can assure you that there is a big difference between a more centrist conservative say like Guliani and very conservative right winger like Palin or Huckabee. |
[QUOTE=kane;16654655]That doesn't mean that conservatives are the majority. It just means that those who consider themselves to be conservative are more active in appointing their agenda.
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And no offense Kane because you seem intelligent, but I think you are grasping at straws here. I never said the conservatives constitute the majority. What I said was: Quote:
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Here is something taken from Wikipedia about the silent majority. "They did, in some cases, support the conservative policies of many politicians. Others were not particularly conservative politically, but resented what they saw as disrespect for American institutions." I think the actual term has kind of morphed over the years and now is more about a group that makes up a majority of voters but does not widely express its views through marches or demonstrations than it is about support for one ideology or another. |
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The problem with the US system is its so broken, and the health industry is so entrenched, I honestly don't see how you guys can fix it. My health insurance bill for my visit there next year is more than my plane tickets and accomodation cost. |
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Nixon was talking about conservatives. There were hippie liberals and red neck conservatives. Not too much in the middle ground. |
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