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who 01-30-2008 10:37 AM

Unbelievable FLING stats
 
Honestly, why do they increase their shave? Do they think we won't notice?


Fling 2025 53 1:38 0 n/a $0.00

minddust 01-30-2008 10:39 AM

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(img)Baghdad bob here(/img)
(b)they don't shave(/b)
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SmokeyTheBear 01-30-2008 10:42 AM

wow i haven't looked at my fling stats recently , maybe i should have

Fling 6,273 69 0 $0.00 1:91

WTF ????

Brad Gosse 01-30-2008 10:42 AM

Fling is a great program!

Having said that their stats suck and I know they always don't count sales on the day they are made. It does seem like they eventually catch up since I can have one day with low sales and another abnormally high.

who 01-30-2008 10:45 AM

Well every program shaves from webmasters, it's a normal part of the business model. I accept that.

What I don't accept is programs who constantly increase the amount they shave... particularly if they claim they don't shave in the first place. It's utter nonsense.

I've liked Fling for a long time. I hope they rethink their shaving percentage though.

Nicky 01-30-2008 10:45 AM

I don't use them anymore, I use Loaded Cash - XXXBlackBook has worked great for me so far

TampaToker 01-30-2008 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 13717775)
I don't use them anymore, I use Loaded Cash - XXXBlackBook has worked great for me so far


Yeap those guys convert great for me :)

TheSenator 01-30-2008 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Gosse (Post 13717761)
Fling is a great program!

Having said that their stats suck and I know they always don't count sales on the day they are made. It does seem like they eventually catch up since I can have one day with low sales and another abnormally high.


Same here....

who 01-30-2008 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13717759)
wow i haven't looked at my fling stats recently , maybe i should have

Fling 6,273 69 0 $0.00 1:91

WTF ????

Ahh so, as I suspected, it's not just me - it's not just my traffic. They really have increased their shaving percentage. What a shame.

SmokeyTheBear 01-30-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 13717775)
I don't use them anymore, I use Loaded Cash - XXXBlackBook has worked great for me so far

xxxblackbook is actually a pretty nice looking site , but they have a silly exit console to camsclub

who 01-30-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 13717775)
I don't use them anymore, I use Loaded Cash - XXXBlackBook has worked great for me so far

Cheers, I'll check it out. :thumbsup

TheSenator 01-30-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 13717775)
I don't use them anymore, I use Loaded Cash - XXXBlackBook has worked great for me so far


Still testing them out... I am running parallel campaings with Fling.

smack 01-30-2008 10:51 AM

i don't really know if i would blame that on the "shaving". 1:38 for free emails? seems like your traffic is just junk.

-edit-

also it is a dating site. sometimes it takes me a couple days with dating sites to start regularly converting signups. that free email ratio is what i would be worried about.

who 01-30-2008 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smack (Post 13717815)
i don't really know if i would blame that on the "shaving". 1:38 for free emails? seems like your traffic is just junk.

My traffic hasn't changed, it's only increased. But my earnings with Fling have gone way way down. More signups but less conversions.

So I would expect my earnings to increase as my traffic and emails increase. But it's decreased. The only reason for this is that the earnings are being shaved.

It's been a slow process but it's now impossible to ignore. I just can't even consider that the traffic might be shit. Or if shit, no shitter than it used to be.

:2 cents:

Nicky 01-30-2008 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 13717791)
Yeap those guys convert great for me :)

I see what you did there LOL

TheSenator 01-30-2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smack (Post 13717815)
i don't really know if i would blame that on the "shaving". 1:38 for free emails? seems like your traffic is just junk.

-edit-

also it is a dating site. sometimes it takes me a couple days with dating sites to start regularly converting signups. that free email ratio is what i would be worried about.

The free email ratio to sign-up should be anywhere between 1/20 to 1/25.


My current ratio is 1/16

TampaToker 01-30-2008 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 13717843)
I see what you did there LOL

:1orglaugh

pornask 01-30-2008 11:02 AM

<-- never promoted fling :thumbsup

Va2k 01-30-2008 11:03 AM

Damn I am soooooooo glad I looked here I went from 1:110 to 1:1402 over night and the traffic has picked way up!! Time to look for someone else i guess! :(

DaddyHalbucks 01-30-2008 11:06 AM

Maybe it's not shaving, just market saturation.

:)

Nicky 01-30-2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 13717880)
Damn I am soooooooo glad I looked here I went from 1:110 to 1:1402 over night and the traffic has picked way up!! Time to look for someone else i guess! :(

See sig, need I say more :thumbsup

SmokeyTheBear 01-30-2008 11:11 AM

my best guess would be it's spyware not shaving , but i could be totally wrong.

theres a few really popular "rogue" toolbars out there , some as high as 1&#37; coverage. I wouldnt doubt this is part of the problem.

but it is also up to the sponsor to weed out the spyware affiliates, if they dont they are just shooting themselves in the foot , because eventually affiliates notice something strange going on and move to a new sponsor. then the spyware guy has nothing to "shave/steal/skim" , and the sponsors "wonderboy" sponsor suddenly goes dud.

TheSenator 01-30-2008 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13717927)
my best guess would be it's spyware not shaving , but i could be totally wrong.

theres a few really popular "rogue" toolbars out there , some as high as 1% coverage. I wouldnt doubt this is part of the problem.

but it is also up to the sponsor to weed out the spyware affiliates, if they dont they are just shooting themselves in the foot , because eventually affiliates notice something strange going on and move to a new sponsor. then the spyware guy has nothing to "shave/steal/skim" , and the sponsors "wonderboy" sponsor suddenly goes dud.

I think over looking the fact that once a surfer signs up for free, the conversion rate should 1/20.

Is it possible to hijack a free member once he signs up under you?

fuzebox 01-30-2008 11:31 AM

Why does everyone throw the "shave" word around so much? What do they have to gain from shaving your joins, it is not in their best interest, you'll just send your traffic elsewhere. RK/BB do not need to start shaving everyone who sends them 2000 hits for that quick buck.

smack 01-30-2008 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 13717861)
The free email ratio to sign-up should be anywhere between 1/20 to 1/25.


My current ratio is 1/16



i generally averge somewhere between 1:12 and 1:17.

depending on trafic source, filtering, etc....

my point is that i think there is something more complex at work there than shaving. people always seem to jump to that as their conclusion instead of taking a good hard at their traffic, filtering methods, posibility of oversaturation in the current demographic, or like smokey said, spyware.

WiredGuy 01-30-2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13717927)
my best guess would be it's spyware not shaving , but i could be totally wrong.

theres a few really popular "rogue" toolbars out there , some as high as 1% coverage. I wouldnt doubt this is part of the problem.

but it is also up to the sponsor to weed out the spyware affiliates, if they dont they are just shooting themselves in the foot , because eventually affiliates notice something strange going on and move to a new sponsor. then the spyware guy has nothing to "shave/steal/skim" , and the sponsors "wonderboy" sponsor suddenly goes dud.


If the coverage is 1%, most people shouldn't even notice. Even whales doing 100 joins per day would barely notice it.
WG

snaker 01-30-2008 11:33 AM

Fling sucks my fat cock. The site is riddled with imposter profiles, cant see they retain.

TheSenator 01-30-2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smack (Post 13718027)
i generally averge somewhere between 1:12 and 1:17.

depending on trafic source, filtering, etc....

my point is that i think there is something more complex at work there than shaving. people always seem to jump to that as their conclusion instead of taking a good hard at their traffic, filtering methods, posibility of oversaturation in the current demographic, or like smokey said, spyware.


Can Spyware or any other exploit hijack your free member?

Big_Red 01-30-2008 11:34 AM

I completely stopped promoting them a couple weeks ago.

PornMySex 01-30-2008 11:38 AM

Here are my stats:

http://www.widenetmedia.com/hgstats.jpg

Lace 01-30-2008 11:47 AM

I'm 1:85 for the period & 1:106 for the month. :drinkup

smack 01-30-2008 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 13718037)
Can Spyware or any other exploit hijack your free member?

i'm sure it's possible.

point to be made though, exhaust all other possibilities before doing something rash like accusing a good sponsor of shaving.

After Shock Media 01-30-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 13717772)
Well every program shaves from webmasters, it's a normal part of the business model. I accept that.

What I don't accept is programs who constantly increase the amount they shave... particularly if they claim they don't shave in the first place. It's utter nonsense.

I've liked Fling for a long time. I hope they rethink their shaving percentage though.

Why do people keep saying this. Not every program shaves, hell I would reason to bet most programs would not even know how to shave on purpose and if they did it, it would be by accident and seen by any and every affiliate that looked and then asked why is there no link code on X page or why is someone elses (house number) affiliate number in the tour.

g$$$ 01-30-2008 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 13717880)
Damn I am soooooooo glad I looked here I went from 1:110 to 1:1402 over night and the traffic has picked way up!! Time to look for someone else i guess! :(

Fungus, hit me up if you need a different adult dating sponsor. :)

TheSenator 01-30-2008 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMySex (Post 13718064)

Nice stats.

HammerALL 01-30-2008 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13717802)
xxxblackbook is actually a pretty nice looking site , but they have a silly exit console to camsclub


Hey there SmokeyTheBear - all our exit controls can be turned off - hit me up and I'll help you out. If anyone has any questions about Loaded Cash - I'd be happy to help as well.

TheSenator 01-30-2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HammerALL (Post 13718852)
Hey there SmokeyTheBear - all our exit controls can be turned off - hit me up and I'll help you out. If anyone has any questions about Loaded Cash - I'd be happy to help as well.

I have been getting random exit pop-ups.


Is that normal???

CunningStunt 01-30-2008 02:55 PM

I forgot I even had a link up to them - 56 hits and $105 - seems alright:

Totals 56 2 3 $105.00 1:28 1:19

I think I'll put some more links up.

LuckyMax 01-30-2008 02:57 PM

that looks bad

HammerALL 01-30-2008 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 13718864)
I have been getting random exit pop-ups.


Is that normal???


If you have turned off your exits - you shoudn't be getting anymore - hit me up and I'll look at your account.


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