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k0nr4d 01-09-2008 06:56 AM

Network Solutions caught registering all searched domains
 
Looks like network solutions has been caught registering every domain customers search for on their site so that they cannot register them at another registrar

http://www.domainnamenews.com/featur...-searches/1359

example: youguysseriouslyregistereverythingisearch.com

Mutt 01-09-2008 07:04 AM

registrars are all sleazebags

Oracle Porn 01-09-2008 07:07 AM

wow
everyone is scum no matter what u say everyone is here for the money and will fuck you if the price is right

Garvin 01-09-2008 07:09 AM

Whois.sc did (and maybe still does) the same

k0nr4d 01-09-2008 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garvin (Post 13628376)
Whois.sc did (and maybe still does) the same

They do, I had a friend who was looking for a cosmetics company domain name, and she searched for it on whois.sc. Next day when she went to register it the domain was taken. It was a very obscure name too, specific to her brand.

BSleazy 01-09-2008 07:19 AM

I just confirmed this is true. http://whois.domaintools.com/youfuck...bigphatass.com

tony286 01-09-2008 07:21 AM

isnt that against the rules?

rowan 01-09-2008 07:22 AM

NSI's response:

http://www.circleid.com/posts/81082_...front_running/

I wonder if registrars (or high end domainers with access to an API) are already doing proactive registrations - pick a keyword, get a script to munch on keyword data such as overture or wordtracker, spit out 500 variants, then register them all and see what happens.

rowan 01-09-2008 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13628415)
I wonder if registrars (or high end domainers with access to an API) are already doing proactive registrations - pick a keyword, get a script to munch on keyword data such as overture or wordtracker, spit out 500 variants, then register them all and see what happens.

^^ BTW this is referring to tasting, not actual permanent registration

polluting the domain name pool like blackhat subdomains pollute google :)

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13628413)
isnt that against the rules?

Apparently ICANN's 'rules' are either like swiss cheese or a thin veil.

I posted up some links to this story on my Fight the Blog blog


Fight the .$$$!

k0nr4d 01-09-2008 07:35 AM

lol at the responce by network solutions.

Protecting us from the front-runners by front-running. How nice of them!

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 07:38 AM

I went to do a lookup for: StealThisDomainFromMe.com at Network Solutions, and the domain was available to register with the result: Domain Status: Never Registered Before

Then i did a lookup at: domaintools and look what it says not more than 1 minute later:

ICANN Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Created: 2008-01-09
Expires: 2009-01-09


Fight the virtual stick-up!

Martin 01-09-2008 07:52 AM

Thats why I use Godaddy. Always search there and buy there. Not one problem since day 1.

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 07:54 AM

Found this quote:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/711281...front_running/

I’m Jon Nevett, Vice President of Policy at Network Solutions. Regarding Nominet’s study of domain name front running, I don’t know about .co.uk, but the practice certainly exists in gTLD space. Based on our experience and investigations, we disagree with the suggestion that front running cases are merely coincidental with other online activities, and that the problem is little more than a “public perception” issue. Our customers certainly have suffered from this troubling practice, and other registrars have stated the same thing. We are in a much better position than registries to know that it’s happening. Something should be done to protect consumers from such practices—it cannot wait for endless ICANN studies and policy development. Unfortunately, the failure to act is undermining consumer confidence in the domain registration process.


this is from the same company that brought us the little scam that when you type in a domain that isn't registered, that a parked page comes up??? The only protecting that Network Solutions is doing is their wallet.

Fight the Hooded Robin!

DutchTeenCash 01-09-2008 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13628415)
NSI's response:

http://www.circleid.com/posts/81082_...front_running/

I wonder if registrars (or high end domainers with access to an API) are already doing proactive registrations - pick a keyword, get a script to munch on keyword data such as overture or wordtracker, spit out 500 variants, then register them all and see what happens.

just reading that

smart answer of NS

BSleazy 01-09-2008 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 13628503)
Thats why I use Godaddy. Always search there and buy there. Not one problem since day 1.

Same here.

d-null 01-09-2008 08:03 AM

I've had nothing but good luck with Godaddy as well.

and I think they run their tdnam.com site fairly as well

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13628415)
I wonder if registrars (or high end domainers with access to an API) are already doing proactive registrations - pick a keyword, get a script to munch on keyword data such as overture or wordtracker, spit out 500 variants, then register them all and see what happens.

of course.. that's what the 5-day (domain tasting) loophole allows. they can register 10,000's of domains a day, and see which ones are getting traffic, and then return the ones they don't want within 5 days. They have to pay the ICANN fee of like $0.25/domain and then purchase the domains they wanted to keep.

Fight the skript kiddies!

mn 01-09-2008 08:11 AM

no costs at all when using the grace period? I mean is it possible to reg 10000000000000000 domains and drop them after 5 days, then do it again etc. ?

My registrar charge a small fee for this I think, but never really looked into it.

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mn (Post 13628553)
no costs at all when using the grace period? I mean is it possible to reg 10000000000000000 domains and drop them after 5 days, then do it again etc. ?


$0.25 to taste for 5 days.


Fight the $0.02!

mn 01-09-2008 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent (Post 13628572)
$0.25 to taste for 5 days.


Fight the $0.02!

oh ok... didn't know, thanks

BV 01-09-2008 08:27 AM

I've heard of this before a long time ago and since then I never search for a domain using a registrar's search tool. I just type it in Google or in my browser to see if it is being used and if it doesnt show up I go straight to directnic and register it all in one quick swoop.

pornguy 01-09-2008 08:30 AM

Thats why you check them in a browser first. then if you find one that is not registered, or at least has no holding page or anything, you go and check with namecheap or something like that. If available reg it right then, You can let it expire later.

LFCII 01-09-2008 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent (Post 13628470)
I went to do a lookup for: StealThisDomainFromMe.com at Network Solutions, and the domain was available to register with the result: Domain Status: Never Registered Before

Then i did a lookup at: domaintools and look what it says not more than 1 minute later:

ICANN Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Created: 2008-01-09
Expires: 2009-01-09


Fight the virtual stick-up!

That is very sad. I want to rant more but I am getting tired of fighting the cluster fuck of business ethics this series of tubes has become.

tranza 01-09-2008 08:51 AM

That's fucked up...

V_RocKs 01-09-2008 08:59 AM

No... someone else was doing it when they released them.

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LFCII (Post 13628661)
That is very sad. I want to rant more but I am getting tired of fighting the cluster fuck of business ethics this series of tubes has become.

should be more than ranting, should have stakes and pitch forks and bondfires at the doors of ICANN (in santa monica) for the crazy stuff they do (*cough* .XXX *cough*).

There are plenty of ICANN haters who I am sure will use this issue to rally against ICANN.

Domain Tasting is flat-out wrong that provides for an uneven playing field.

Network Solutions "solution" of registering the domain to "protect" their customers should be calling for FTC investigation as it prevents anyone who conincidentally is thinking of the same domain but checking at another register, from being able to register it.


Fight the Taste Buds!

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 13628631)
how long did that take?

my test took less than a minute.

Try this game at home:

http://www.networksolutions.com

put in a domain that is totally made up. notice it is available. click the stop watch. check back in a minute or two.

Can also verify by looking at another registry:

http://www.whois.sc


Fight the home version!

Zorgman 01-09-2008 09:11 AM

Damn, thats sucks. I remember using them for my first domain back in 1999. It was like $70 for 1 year I think.

Boobs 01-09-2008 09:14 AM

sad but true .. i tink godaddy does this too

pornask 01-09-2008 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 13628503)
Thats why I use Godaddy. Always search there and buy there. Not one problem since day 1.

:thumbsup

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobs (Post 13628761)
sad but true .. i tink godaddy does this too

i did some tests with GoDaddy and DomainTools, and no results.

That doesn't mean they couldn't database those lookups and potentially sell them to third party who can get them later.


Fight the Conspiracy Theories!

sortie 01-09-2008 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent (Post 13628735)
my test took less than a minute.

Try this game at home:

http://www.networksolutions.com

put in a domain that is totally made up. notice it is available. click the stop watch. check back in a minute or two.

Can also verify by looking at another registry:

http://www.whois.sc


Fight the home version!

Trying that now. So far the domain I search on is still available.
So maybe this only happens if I add it to my shopping cart.
Holding the name after I add it to the shopping cart is a bit different since I
am implying that I want to purchase it.

I'll give it a few more minutes to see what happens.

sortie 01-09-2008 09:30 AM

Hmmmmmm? After I added it to shopping cart the whois.sc is showing a totaly blank page. Maybe I got blocked becuase I kept reloadng the page.
I got a blank page when trying another domain.

someone do a whois sc on this domain and tell me what you get

isthisafuckingscamyousleeze99.com

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13628800)
Trying that now. So far the domain I search on is still available.
So maybe this only happens if I add it to my shopping cart.

i didn't add it to the cart, just did the search, then went to whois.sc to view the results about a minute later.



Fight the jeopardy theme song!

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13628821)
Hmmmmmm? After I added it to shopping cart the whois.sc is showing a totaly blank page. Maybe I got blocked becuase I kept reloadng the page.
I got a blank page when trying another domain.

someone do a whois sc on this domain and tell me what you get

isthisafuckingscamyousleeze99.com

i tried your domain as well as: http://whois.domaintools.com/google.com got a white page..


Fight the there can be none whiter!

sortie 01-09-2008 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent (Post 13628823)
i didn't add it to the cart, just did the search, then went to whois.sc to view the results about a minute later.



Fight the jeopardy theme song!

Please do a whois on the above domain I posted.
I got blocked by whois.sc for some reason.

filthydesign 01-09-2008 09:34 AM

What a joke...

baddog 01-09-2008 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 13628503)
Thats why I use Godaddy. Always search there and buy there. Not one problem since day 1.

shhh, didn't you know? GoDaddy is scum. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

</sarcasm>

FightThisPatent 01-09-2008 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13628832)
Please do a whois on the above domain I posted.
I got blocked by whois.sc for some reason.


I jumped onto a different machine (diff IP, host, etc).. and got the white page.. its not you, its them.

Fight the finger pointing!


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