PHP programing where to go to get jobs
 

Hey, I just entered the adult scene not to long ago, anyways I program PHP/Mysql and are pretty good at it.
I coded for a couple of years for people and could show work.

Anyways Does anyone know where I could turn too for jobs, I work at a pretty low rate Just have clue where to start out now, thanks. If you can help my aim is mysteryfoe and my icq is 74637813, thanks.

elance.com

Yeah, elance.com is a great place to get a job. You'll need to bid the jobs at about $1.50 per hour so you can compete with all of the kids and russians that are there trying to undercut everyone. The only people that will hire you are those that understand that you get what you pay for and/or have had bad experiences with the cheap, wannabe programmers.

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Foe,

Post your email. I may have a project for you.

talk to Mike503 first :) best programmer anybody knows, guaranteed

site has same problems with kids undercutting everyone as elance.

Got a couple of people to contact me, nothing really but thanks for your help anyways.

If you are decent with Perl, I can probably put you to work part time. I don't really have any use for PHP programmers, but if you are familiar with Perl, hit me up and we'll talk.

aww thanks pc :)

yeah, all those freelance job sites are shitholes with desperate teams of foreign workers undercutting the market. team that with the over-abundance of supply vs. demand, and you have some shitty fucking wages. decent php development should go no lower than $45/hour - and that's cheap as it is. i see shit on these sites for $10-15... not even worth the time.

Hit me up on icq, we may have some work for you :)

Just keep pluging away and asking people if they know people!

Every time I hear of something and someone is looking I let em know!

you are spam


im icqing this guy to see what hes all about, low priced programmers looking for work are always an asset...

Words of wisdom...

Currently Im willing to go 20-25 dollars per hour becuase I simply have no work and need the money.

Where are you based, may have some work for you.

other words of wisdom. "you get what you pay for" - lower priced programming usually tends to be poorer quality. why would someone invest more energy into something if they're only making half as much as they should? you, the buyer of the services won't be able to tell the difference for the most part. just four months down the road when the shit breaks because it doesn't scale correctly... that's when you'll notice.

i'm not saying "the more you spend the better it will be" - i am saying go with reputation. if it's going to cost more to get someone good who will do the job right and give you a sustainable product, it's worth the extra cash. :2 cents:

I understand however I am in a cituation where I dont currently have any jobs, thereby I lower my price to attract customers, who will after seeing that I do the same job for less come back in the future, with more work. Its called building a customer base.

http://essayfarm.com
http://excessivehits.com

are two of my sites. Check them out.

so you're saying that even when you drop your prices you are delivering 100% of your quality and putting in full energy on it?

i expect the answer is going to be "yes" - especially with a captive audience watching...

Wow so your saying I am a bad programer just becuase I charge less than you, can you take a look at my previous work and examples rather than making an assumption on how much I charge, currently I am not that busy which is why I am offering to work for 25 dollars per hour, which isnt little. If someone charges 100 dollars per hour does it mean they are better or that they are simply ripping you off.

Well, if they can charge $100 per hour and still stay in business, they must be good. I lose jobs all the time because they found someone to write their program for 50% (or more) of what I quoted. I would estimate that 80% of the time, they come back to me. Generally, if someone is expensive and has been in business a long time, they are good.

Also, the PHP market is saturated. It's a relatively simple language to learn and seems to be just one step up from HTML so your general, run-of-the-mill newbie moves right into PHP after he has outgrown his FrontPage sites. After they gain a little experience with PHP, they move right into their own little wannabe programming business, thus producing a serious over-abundance of PHP programmers willing to work for peanuts. My only advice is to learn another language or two and get a job with an established company. Over time, collect clients. Someday you'll hit the point where you are making more money in your spare time than you are at your real job. That's when you should kiss your 9-5 buh-bye.

i've found that many people who claim to know php can vary from beginners to advanced. normally they produce shitty code and have no idea how to make it modular, sustainable and scalable. but hey, that's just in my experience. :2 cents:

Again just look at my previous work, I am also going to give links for a job that i did for a pornsite after I message the person and ask him.

I also will guarantee my work 100% and I have been coding for around 2 years.

About learning another language first I know some perl, just didnt work in it for a while and prefer not too, additionally php is a simple language but there are topics that start to seperate real php programers from beginers, for example regular expressions complex file handling etc. These topics are not important for your simple sites but get extremely important when your faced with issues like checking to see if a site posted into a tpg is real.. here are some examples

1. Regex to check whether it has several files ending in .jpg, Popup javascripts etc
2. Array and headers to load several of those sites up and indeed check if they are images not redirects.


These arnt neccessary but they do create a much better backend and in the end lead to much less maitanance for the client. Additinally I believe php is faster and uses less resources than other programing languages like perl and yes its easier than perl but this also cuts down on dev time and in the end the client gets a better product for less money.

remember, this isn't a personal attack at you, this is just a broad generalization. to people purchasing services: try to get references, past work experience, etc. the more important and costly the project is, the more you should scout out the best resource you can possibly find.

I completely Agree with you If you are interested in work contact me by aim / icq and I will provide you with references, examples of previous projects etc. Additionally I do not need to be paid for the full project upfront. And will not request full payment of the project until the job is completely finnished and you have accepted the work.

http://www.essayfarm.com/search.php

cheers

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$120 an hour, im all yours :Graucho

Sorry bout that moved the site from Hostrocket.com to my server 3 days ago, One more thing bout that site its one of my earliest sites and hasnt been update in a while.

The error is becuase I never changed the paths when moving but updated config.php so its all good.

I agree, and don't be afraid to check them. If someone gives you a portfolio take the time to look at it, test it. If you are hiring an employee and they provide sample code then compile it and test it. I've been programming for a long time and there is no word I hate more than the word 'cheap'.... well, maybe the words 'segmentation fault' :-) both make the hairs on the back of my wallet stand up on end.

cheers

Notice I never said cheap, and I have no idea why people here consider 25 dollars per hour a cheap rate, to me it seams pretty reasonable.

How about "I'm pregnant"?

It kind of sucks how in all of the threads like this the experienced and established people always try to step in muscle out the new person. If you're so successful and awesome then you don't need yet MORE extra work, right? The "i'm just trying to help people out" facade when youre directly competing with the person in question isn't really believable. There was a point where you were making $20-25 an hour too, even if it was reflected in a full-time salary instead of contracting wages.

Were you a complete disaster who fucked up every project and churned out tons of broken shit people regretted having you write? There are rates which are pure bullshit, like $10/hr to have some guy in a teepee in kashmir write you stuff, but $25/hr for a person new to the community without a whole lot of experience who isn't claiming to be yahoo's chief architect isn't undercutting you or taking away your business. In some parts of the country $25/hr is a damn good living. If you really believe in the quality of your work and the worthness of your rates and you're that bigtime, let it all speak for itself. Turning it into a dickwaving thread because a new guy with less experience is looking to do work cheaper than you is a weak thing to do. :2 cents:

my response isn't about newbies to the industry, it's about well-established people and other such groups on the freelance sites undercutting the industry. team that with too much supply and the rates have been diluted, even though they shouldn't be. the quality of work should stay the same as is the price for that.

lowering your prices is just playing the bidding war game. if people want to pay for a $10/hour hackjob done by 30 east indian programmers who don't really know english too well and will turn out some complete mess, they should go for it.

most experienced and well-versed people will not drop their rates too much, even in a recession environment. business is always business and people will continue to need services. some things may go on hold, but businesses don't freeze all their plans because they're making less than before. establish your name and you'll cross over the cost boundary.

not to say that taking on a smaller-scoped project at the beginning for less money is bad, it helps you get your foot in the door with the company. i'd go for fixed bid projects, not hourly rates.

hehe, right up there...

foe, I did not mean to single you out. you posted some example code, I took a look and it was broken. it happens. otherwise your work looks good with an eye for an intuitive gui. if someone needs a little php work done consider giving him a shot.

When I was hiring a programmer for a company near the end of the dot bomb implosion I was amazed at some of the candidates we got. We got people who really ought not have applied in the first place.

I don't generally contract out for adult business so I don't really know what is standard for adult contracts. fyi, you've placed your rate at under 1/2 of our maintenance rate.

cheers

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Ive explained the error sry about that notice it took me less than a minute to fix, it was simply from moving the site over to a new host.


My rate - I am not looking for fultime work, simply want to build up my perfolio for now, infact I have been contacted by two people too work fultime. Anyways I completly guarantee my work or I will give you your money back. Its that simple I am not looking to make a ton of money now, and am doing other things this is just a side job, but do not get me wrong I build quality code. Hopefully in the near future ill be able to provide you with some more examples.

Ok I checked with some people I did work for and now can give you more references if you contact me. :)

Hello, I am a professional Perl programmer; perl and mod_perl, over 5 years of hands on experience, I can provide US/Canada references on request, and could sure use some work.
Also, I can do pretty much anything you want or need,
installation, modification, custom shopping carts, payment integrations, membership systems, datatabases, database migrations, on the fly images and pdf generation and manipulation; I feel at home in Unix or Windows systems alike.

I code mainly in Perl but Senior level savy on ASP ,PHP and ActionScript as well as Junior level savy in Unix and Windows sys admin.

if you need or want something quoted, just ring.

B.

Hey atleast im not the onlyone looking for work. :)