WEBAIR - Why do you do business with spammers ??
 

Why do you guys host ref.log spammers. do the right thing and take this shit down.


PING any-poker.com (69.42.67.198): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=8.782 ms
64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.365 ms
64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.886 ms


# traceroute 69.42.67.198
traceroute to 69.42.67.198 (69.42.67.198), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets
5 OC48-POS6-0.mtl-bvh-cor-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.77) 0.920 ms 0.872 ms 0.966 ms
6 OC48POS4-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (216.187.90.45) 0.908 ms 0.975 ms 0.783 ms
7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.177 ms 8.103 ms 8.070 ms
8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.461 ms 8.573 ms 8.170 ms
9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 9.084 ms 8.700 ms 8.889 ms
10 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 9.435 ms 9.028 ms 8.638 ms
11 *^X^C

I doubt they know.

They likely wouldn't want any IP's blacklisted.

Didn't you make a thread like this the other day. Why not bump it?

no offense but you come on here slamming casino sites with a casino name , you sound more like someone bent on hurting your competition.. How do you know that site sent the original hit ? I could fake your site as a ref hit , doesnt mean your doing it.

I suggest if you have evidence to suggest its harassment you should post it directly to webair , not the board.. I can post anyones traceroute and claim he is a spammer , doesnt make them a spammer.

because they pay the bill

might be annoying but its not illegal.

i can see his point about it being harassment if its "thousands" of hits a day , but a few hits is part of the internet , i dont ask google to hit my sites but they do , and they use my shit to promote other shit

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/596659-cavecreek-loves-spammers.html

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/597315-multacom-com-loves-spammers.html

give it a break I'm sure they don't know about this try letting them know about it

Seriously quit fucking crying about spam, I can assure you nobody cares... If you care so much, get out of the porn business and join a lowlife anti spam ring.

WebAir is a well known Spamhaus and has hosted numerous ROKSO spammers, scammers, and various scumbags and criminals over the last 2-3 years I've been watching them.

By taking money from this type of vermin, they prove they are no better.

Although, they appear to have cleaned up their act in the last couple of months, at least in terms of SBL & ROKSO spammers, a few months of good behavior hardly makes up for years of SPAM support for some of the worst spammers in the world.

fake nick #18271

You need to do some more homework before you bash a well known host on this board.

Have all 14 of your posts been about so called spammers?

-Sparks

I am so sick of this ignorance... in a couple of years spam will be a word that is forgotten. There WILL be commercial activity via EMAIL, get fucking used to it!

The irony of porno pushers bitching about spam.. It's hilarious.. Shut up and live with it, or unplug your computer. Plus, you'd be a moron to call Spamhaus a credible source, what with all their bullshit rhetoric and propoganda. That's like saying KIKS actually serves a purpose

You are an idiot.

Says a typical lowlife porno pusher, next time formulate an argument instead of embarassing yourself with personal attacks.

your an idiot there is nothing illegal about ref spamming and any hosting company that will kick you for it is probably run by a bunch of idiots.

thank you

ref spammer <- :1orglaugh
I can see people bitching about mailers, spyware installers, etc, but come on ref spammers? :1orglaugh

Wow your cracking down my man, good luck with it all.

I agree spam is spam.

Bulk unsolicited contact, it hurts the internet more then anything else.

And besides a quick couple bucks if that doesn't anyone good.

webair still loves the dirty money, you guys rock !!

PING credit-card-check.com (209.200.11.105): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=8.669 ms
64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.534 ms
64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.357 ms
64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=8.415 ms
64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=8.428 ms
64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=5 ttl=57 time=8.498 ms



5 OC48POS5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 1.004 ms 0.972 ms 0.689 ms
6 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.303 ms 7.747 ms 7.972 ms
7 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.218 ms 8.220 ms 8.355 ms
8 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 8.134 ms 8.329 ms 8.518 ms
9 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 8.906 ms 8.620 ms 9.264 ms

Totally true.

Whats the fucking point of this? They DO have icq and email you know.

Go fuck yourself.. This isnt webiars support board.
If you have an issue with them.. take it there.

Finally someone with less post then me,, I say grab some bread and make a spamwich...:thumbsup

I enjoy the love here, amazing how people care about this problem allthough everyone get's his piece of the bandwith bill.

keep going webair, you guys rock !!


PING debt-consolidation-organization.com (209.200.11.105): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=8.579 ms
64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.751 ms
64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.666 ms


5 OC48POS5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 0.856 ms 0.945 ms 0.514 ms
6 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.368 ms 8.197 ms 7.944 ms
7 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.606 ms 8.654 ms 8.307 ms
8 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 22.336 ms 226.687 ms 220.400 ms
9 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 8.197 ms 9.005 ms 8.683 ms

has been going on for month, webair does not care. they have gotten gready.

simply search google for "debt-consolidation-organization.com"

PING finance-here.com (69.42.67.197): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=8.665 ms
64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.426 ms
64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.634 ms
64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=9.451 ms

4 66.199.153.110 (66.199.153.110) 0.596 ms 1.144 ms 0.624 ms
5 OC48-POS6-0.mtl-bvh-cor-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.77) 0.596 ms 0.720 ms 0.750 ms
6 OC48POS5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 1.010 ms 0.660 ms 0.831 ms
7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 7.761 ms 8.331 ms 7.781 ms
8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.394 ms 8.724 ms 9.304 ms
9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 8.787 ms 8.600 ms 8.863 ms
10 csa080.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.26) 8.524 ms 8.171 ms 8.508 ms

? im confused ?

dude pinging some random sites doesnt prove anything , if any host pulled someones sites because some no-named troll started pinging there server they shouldnt be doing biz..

Furthermore what gives you the right to ping there servers but they cant ping your server ?

which part didn't you understand ??

go to referrercop.org and search for the IPs

keep going webair, bottom line is you will have to shut this shit down eventually.

PING famous-hotel.com (69.42.67.198): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=9.291 ms
64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.532 ms
64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.458 ms


6 OC48POS4-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (216.187.90.45) 1.354 ms 1.032 ms 0.871 ms
7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 7.998 ms 8.682 ms 8.377 ms
8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.521 ms 8.709 ms 8.041 ms
9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 9.135 ms 8.238 ms 8.419 ms
10 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 8.633 ms 9.979 ms 8.677 ms


Webair does not tolerate SPAM of any kind! Upon first offence, we will issue a warning to offender. If we receive multiple complaints the account will be terminated.

STAND UP TO YOUR WORDS

i'm pretty sure webair doesn't knowingly host *illegal* spammers.

they have WAY to many people to answer to.

Why should a hosting company care about ref spam?

what part didnt YOU understand retard . ANYONE can PING any site , you pinged their site didnt you ? i have no idea about refercop or if they are accurate or people file false reports or what they stand to gain.. sounds like a scam job to me. you show no proof , no server logs, new name with an obviously competitive nature... sounds like your just out to damage your competetion...

If any host shuts down a site based on this guys vague insinuations , i want to know so i can stay WELL aware , and i will make sure to inform others that your an untrustworthy host

They can do buisness with whoever the fuck they want.
Go kill yourself and retire your fake nick.

ok asswipe, I will make it even easier for you to understand

1) go to referrercop.org
2) use webair IP (69.42.67.197)
3) very important "look at search results"

no comes the tricky part, we are going to copy the first domain name, this is done by highlighting it (advice-2000.info) and then we will press "CTRL C"

4.) now we go to the google searchengine, located at google.com
5.) click the search input field, then press "CTRL V"
6.) wow, advice-2000.info shows up, it's magic

I hope you could follow me, no comes the tricky part

7) look at the search result. wow, nothing there, that's amazing.
8) no click "contain the term"
9) still don't understand, do the same with always-casino.com, then ask yourself why a banned domain has 116,000 references.

From personal experience, if you notify them of it they will put a stop to it...

no they do not do that, neither did cavecreek.

you need to expose them here to make it stop.

another ref spamming hosted by webair, same IP, same webmaster.

PING 2handjobs.com (209.200.2.107): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 209.200.2.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=9.536 ms
64 bytes from 209.200.2.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.951 ms
64 bytes from 209.200.2.107: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.874 ms



5 OC48-POS6-0.mtl-bvh-cor-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.77) 0.657 ms 0.604 ms 0.799 ms
6 OC48POS5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 0.926 ms 1.043 ms 1.085 ms
7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.155 ms 7.958 ms 8.075 ms
8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.395 ms 8.486 ms 8.209 ms
9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 9.439 ms 9.007 ms 8.889 ms
10 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 12.452 ms 11.887 ms 8.465 ms
11 209.200.2.107 (209.200.2.107) 9.396 ms 8.945 ms 8.608 ms

The principle I?m complaining about is the particularly loathsome habit on the part of the weblog spammers of referrer log spamming. This is where they are trying to get their websites mentioned on referrer pages, ie. weblogs which show where people have visited from.

This is so easy to spam simply by writing a tool which fetches weblog pages repeatedly with their site in the referrer field. At first I thought it was harmless, but when you add up the sheer number of pages they fetch it really gets quite scary. It also polluted the count of how many people visit my website (at least until I installed a cookie based system, which they don?t affect). Out of the thousands of pages that are fetched each day from this site, only a quarter to a third are actually genuine people.

The rest are spammers with entirely suspicious URL?s in the referrer field. This is a waste of my money, and I don?t like other people wasting what is mine.