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GatorB 03-09-2006 06:10 AM

Vista to use over 800 MB of RAM?
 
DAMN!

Not only that but takes up 7 GB of HD space.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30128

Jakke PNG 03-09-2006 06:11 AM

Shit happens. Computers evolve. It's not too pricey to get like 4gb of ram and 600gb of hd...

GatorB 03-09-2006 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
Shit happens. Computers evolve. It's not too pricey to get like 4gb of ram and 600gb of hd...

4 GB of RAM for my computer is about $500( PC3200 RAM ). Anyways Vista is really made for computers that run on 64 architecture not 32 bit which most people currently have.

Jakke PNG 03-09-2006 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
4 GB of RAM for my computer is about $500( PC3200 RAM ). Anyways Vista is really made for computers that run on 64 architecture not 32 bit which most people currently have.

I fail to see the problem. Don't get vista then. If you buy a new computer with 64bit architechture, I would imagine you would cheap out and buy 128mb of ram for it.:1orglaugh

Jakke PNG 03-09-2006 06:38 AM

Besides, most of the software I use costs more than $500... If something I needed required 1gb of ram, I'd buy 2 just to be sure. It's tax-deducable.. so why worry? :)

If you don't need the os, and don't have money for a computer upgrade.. don't upgrade.

GatorB 03-09-2006 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
I fail to see the problem. Don't get vista then. If you buy a new computer with 64bit architechture, I would imagine you would cheap out and buy 128mb of ram for it.:1orglaugh

The problem is is that you are a dick. geesh I just make a post about how much RAM Vista uses ands you throw insults. Fuck off douchebag!

Pardon me if I think $500 for RAM is too much. Any ways I'm sure all new computer being sold at X-mas time will have Vista. Well I guess Wal-Mart will be getting a lot of returns when people realize the 512 MB of RAM their computers came with is not enough and they have to shell out a few hundreds more $$ on RAM. You don't see an issue here?

polish_aristocrat 03-09-2006 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
Besides, most of the software I use costs more than $500...

good that Im not a designer :)

Basic_man 03-09-2006 07:59 AM

800mb of ram ? Fuck, I tought I would be okay for a while with 1GB of ram ... damn

Jakke PNG 03-09-2006 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
The problem is is that you are a dick. geesh I just make a post about how much RAM Vista uses ands you throw insults. Fuck off douchebag!

Pardon me if I think $500 for RAM is too much. Any ways I'm sure all new computer being sold at X-mas time will have Vista. Well I guess Wal-Mart will be getting a lot of returns when people realize the 512 MB of RAM their computers came with is not enough and they have to shell out a few hundreds more $$ on RAM. You don't see an issue here?

No, I'm not a dick. You just apparently want to use your 1990's computer to run software made for 2006 computers. So no, I don't see the issue. So fuck off douchebag! heh.. goddamn, you get upset that the computer you bought from walmart in 95 won't run the OS you'd like to. Why do YOU get all excited over this? I just said that 800mb isn't unreasonable these days, and $500 is definately not a lot of money to be put into a computer.

loverboy 03-09-2006 08:57 AM

ok that sucks 100x

technology sucks

:smokin

Manowar 03-09-2006 09:57 AM

talk about a jump!

Quagmire 03-09-2006 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
The problem is is that you are a dick. geesh I just make a post about how much RAM Vista uses ands you throw insults. Fuck off douchebag!

Pardon me if I think $500 for RAM is too much. Any ways I'm sure all new computer being sold at X-mas time will have Vista. Well I guess Wal-Mart will be getting a lot of returns when people realize the 512 MB of RAM their computers came with is not enough and they have to shell out a few hundreds more $$ on RAM. You don't see an issue here?

I agree that the amount of RAM it uses is too much. The OS is a platform to run applications and shouldn't be using that much RAM. The problem is Microsoft is pushing a product with a zillion bells and whistles most people don't need and won't ever use.

From any angle I look at it, I want functional, not fancy. When I want fancy I throw in a c00l video game and check out the pretty textures and scenery.

jjjay 03-09-2006 10:05 AM

great way to limit their market

I'll stick with win2k for now

jjjay 03-09-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
No, I'm not a dick. You just apparently want to use your 1990's computer to run software made for 2006 computers. So no, I don't see the issue. So fuck off douchebag! heh.. goddamn, you get upset that the computer you bought from walmart in 95 won't run the OS you'd like to. Why do YOU get all excited over this? I just said that 800mb isn't unreasonable these days, and $500 is definately not a lot of money to be put into a computer.


it depends what you're doing. 800 MB may not be unreasonable for a designer, but it is for an average user.

come on - dell make a song and dance about "512 MB" memory, so 1 gig is not the norm by a long stretch

if it's true, sounds like a fuck up by microsoft. imho

Z 03-09-2006 10:12 AM

Microshaft is always going to push the limits. All the deals they make with the hardware manufacturers are based on making people buy new hardware to run their new shit.

I'll give it at least a year to work some bugs out after it comes out. My 1.8GHZ laptop with 2 GBs of RAM runs like a beast. I've got two 19" LCDs running off of it and an external 160GB HD to supplement the 40GB in it. That's plenty for now. The only thing I really wish I could do is upgrade the video card to play the newer games. But...next laptop. :-)

Tom_PM 03-09-2006 10:15 AM

Bring back the 640k barrier!!

StuartD 03-09-2006 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom
Bring back the 640k barrier!!

"640k ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981

GatorB 03-09-2006 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
No, I'm not a dick. You just apparently want to use your 1990's computer to run software made for 2006 computers. So no, I don't see the issue. So fuck off douchebag! heh.. goddamn, you get upset that the computer you bought from walmart in 95 won't run the OS you'd like to. Why do YOU get all excited over this? I just said that 800mb isn't unreasonable these days, and $500 is definately not a lot of money to be put into a computer.

I just made a post buddy. You were the one throwing insults and calling epole "cheap"

First of all I wasn't referring to ME personally in my posts. So try using your BRAIN.

Second my computer is 2 years old and I did not get it at wal-mart. I have upgraded the RAM from 512MB to 1 GB, got a graphic card, upgraded the CPU and got a 21" widescreen LCD. Yet somehow I'm "cheap". Ok whatever. Try not JUDGING people first dipshit.

Thirdly 800 mb for an OS is a lot and going by the other posters here YOU are the ONLY one to think otherwise.

Fourthly. $500 is A LOT to stick into a computer you just bought for x-mas. And by YOU I'm speaking in generalities I'm not referring to you personally or me for that matter. Fact is new computers will come with Vista whether people actually need it or not. Do you think wal-mart is going to tell the customers they have to shell out an extra few hundred in memory? By the way you can't even buy memory at a wal-mart.

Lastly, no one cares about how cool your 'puter is or how much you overpay for software. Just because you choose to do so doesn't make you "cool" And bragging about how $500 is nothing seems to me to be nothing more than a compsenation for your small penis.

jjjay 03-09-2006 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
waaaaaaaaaah

you're so touchy. is someone putting estrogen in your tap water?

BradM 03-09-2006 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jjjay
you're so touchy. is someone putting estrogen in your tap water?

lol I like you.

Jakke PNG 03-09-2006 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
I just made a post buddy. You were the one throwing insults and calling epole "cheap"

First of all I wasn't referring to ME personally in my posts. So try using your BRAIN.

Second my computer is 2 years old and I did not get it at wal-mart. I have upgraded the RAM from 512MB to 1 GB, got a graphic card, upgraded the CPU and got a 21" widescreen LCD. Yet somehow I'm "cheap". Ok whatever. Try not JUDGING people first dipshit.

Thirdly 800 mb for an OS is a lot and going by the other posters here YOU are the ONLY one to think otherwise.

Fourthly. $500 is A LOT to stick into a computer you just bought for x-mas. And by YOU I'm speaking in generalities I'm not referring to you personally or me for that matter. Fact is new computers will come with Vista whether people actually need it or not. Do you think wal-mart is going to tell the customers they have to shell out an extra few hundred in memory? By the way you can't even buy memory at a wal-mart.

Lastly, no one cares about how cool your 'puter is or how much you overpay for software. Just because you choose to do so doesn't make you "cool" And bragging about how $500 is nothing seems to me to be nothing more than a compsenation for your small penis.

Lol.
You're the one throwing insults here, not me. If I was I'd say "You're a fucking turd."

..and I'm not 'bragging' about $500, I'm just saying that $500 extra here and there isn't a big deal, I was also making a general statement. Most people on this board use their computer for work. If you think that spending $500 in your work environment is a big deal, I guess I should feel bad for you.

Walmart probably won't include a vista with their computers with 512mb ram if it needs 800... so how about YOU use your brain. Fucking idiot. Why in the fuck did you get all fired up about this? You seem to be a fucking clown.

All I said that the demands aren't that high. I don't care about the joe schmuck who bought his computer to surf the web and play solitaire. I was thinking it from the professional point of view.. you know, using the computer to work. That's what I do, and most likely 50% of the people on the board.
Windows 95 required a lot more ram than dos 5 and people probably complained about that too.

So how about you take a cold shower and clear your mind... Or go beat stray dogs or something to get that unnecessary anger out.

pornguy 03-09-2006 10:52 AM

Upgrading the ram for a lot of people. Average people will be very costly, and not as likely to happen/

SGS 03-09-2006 10:56 AM

So long as its good, safe, secure and helps me to make money I don't care if it uses 5 gigs.

keyDet79 03-09-2006 10:59 AM

Not progressing is standing still. It would be silly not to bring out the OS just because some people cannot afford the upgrade. If you can't afford it, don't upgrade, it's simple, Windows XP will still be supported anyway, in fact, SP3 is coming out in 2007. So what's the big deal? No one forces you.

Besides, a very big part of this high memory usage is because of their new Aero 3D interface. There will be 6 versions of Windows Vista, Aero will not be included in the Home and Starter editions. Neither will a lot of other software professionals might need.

Another thing is that Vista can reserve a certain amount of memory for system speed (feature is called SuperFetch), to keep your most used programs in the background. SuperFetch can even keep different programs in memory on different days, depending on your usage. In fact, I've read it can use both system memory and flash memory.

Also, Vista will come out as both 32bits and a 64bits version. The last reviews I've read have changed my mind about the OS. I will definately upgrade to Vista Ultimate and take 2GB with it for starters.

gentmaster 03-09-2006 11:12 AM

Beta 2 folks. 800MB = :error

Slick 03-09-2006 11:12 AM

The thing is that it's gonna be an upgrade over Windows XP, so an upgrade in specs is totally understandable. Look at PC games, they're minimal requirements keep getting higher and higher as the games get better, so you'd assume it'd be the same way with the OS. Nowadays 512 megs and 7-gigs is nothing especially since a 200-gig hard drive sounds small.

I myself have 2-gigs and a 300-gig drive on my system, so I'm set.

tony286 03-09-2006 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
Shit happens. Computers evolve. It's not too pricey to get like 4gb of ram and 600gb of hd...

its not evolution its a crappy operating system, thats a bulky piece of crap.

4Pics 03-09-2006 11:21 AM

1 Gig of Ram can be bought for less then $80. Which will let everyone run Vista, just like buying a new Dell machine with 256mb of ram and XP.

Jakke PNG 03-09-2006 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404
its not evolution its a crappy operating system, thats a bulky piece of crap.

Yeah..well, I don't think so.
win 95 was HUGE compared to a dos.
My first 468 had 8mb of memory and was 33mhz, and the computer was too fast for some games. That piece of shit couldn't run 95... it's time to move on from 95.

Luc 03-09-2006 11:56 AM

I agree with Gator. 800MB is a bit much. For $400-$500 I can get a new Dell PC, P4 2.8ghz with 512 RAM and a 15 inch LCD. Why the fuck would I have to spend $500 on RAM? Yes, the Dell PC is crap, but that's what the average person uses.

Maybe this demand in more ram will drive the prices down. I'm actually looking forward to putting in a few more gigs into my baby.

Jace 03-09-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
4 GB of RAM for my computer is about $500( PC3200 RAM ). Anyways Vista is really made for computers that run on 64 architecture not 32 bit which most people currently have.

where the fuck are you buying ram???? jesus man....I just got 2gb dual channel pc3200 for $150

tony286 03-09-2006 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
Yeah..well, I don't think so.
win 95 was HUGE compared to a dos.
My first 468 had 8mb of memory and was 33mhz, and the computer was too fast for some games. That piece of shit couldn't run 95... it's time to move on from 95.

what dont you think so its a piece of shit? Its not evolution for it to get bulkier and bulkier.In evolution things get refined, which microsfot has never done. Unix is a superior os, apple was smart to build their os on that.

Jace 03-09-2006 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404
its not evolution its a crappy operating system, thats a bulky piece of crap.

adobe premiere 5 required 32mb ram and 60mb hard drive space...and oh yeah, a 256-color video display adapter

Jace 03-09-2006 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404
what dont you think so its a piece of shit? Its not evolution for it to get bulkier and bulkier.In evolution things get refined, which microsfot has never done. Unix is a superior os, apple was smart to build their os on that.

dude, what are you on, windows 2000 or something?

xp is a solid operating system

CheeseFrog 03-09-2006 12:14 PM

WTF? Did they replace Minesweeper with World of Warcraft as the bundled game?

arial 03-09-2006 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
Besides, most of the software I use costs more than $500... If something I needed required 1gb of ram, I'd buy 2 just to be sure. It's tax-deducable.. so why worry? :)

If you don't need the os, and don't have money for a computer upgrade.. don't upgrade.

Couldn't agree with you more :thumbsup

GatorB 03-09-2006 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace
where the fuck are you buying ram???? jesus man....I just got 2gb dual channel pc3200 for $150

Ok 2GB might be for starters. PC3200? Are you joking? Me thinks anything under PC2-4200 or PC2-5300 won't be adequate for Vista. According the article is was using 800MB of ram while being IDLE.

You may find memory cheper elsewhere but I think this is as good a guide as nay

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ected_items=na

tony286 03-09-2006 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace
dude, what are you on, windows 2000 or something?

xp is a solid operating system

Im on xp pro , xp is ok at best its uses too many resources and has more holes then swiss cheese. Dont assume Im on some old system because I have a great dislike for windows. I had a dual core cpu before most knew what it was lol

Jace 03-09-2006 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Ok 2GB might be for starters. PC3200? Are you joking? Me thinks anything under PC2-4200 or PC2-5300 won't be adequate for Vista. According the article is was using 800MB of ram while being IDLE.

You may find memory cheper elsewhere but I think this is as good a guide as nay

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ected_items=na

i think that is a horrible guide

www.pricewatch.com is pretty much the best for ram

and you are telling me that my 2gb of corsair dual channel pc3200 won't be good enough for Vista? hahahaha

Jace 03-09-2006 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404
Im on xp pro , xp is ok at best its uses too many resources and has more holes then swiss cheese. Dont assume Im on some old system because I have a great dislike for windows. I had a dual core cpu before most knew what it was lol

i know what you are using man ;)

i was just making a point...with all the tweaks and shit you can do on xp, it is a pretty solid machine

seriously, right now I have photoshop and premiere running along with all my normal apps, and I am only using 32% of the system CPU

my box is so tweaked out it isn't funny...


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