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Jace 03-09-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
Ok 2GB might be for starters. PC3200? Are you joking? Me thinks anything under PC2-4200 or PC2-5300 won't be adequate for Vista. According the article is was using 800MB of ram while being IDLE.

You may find memory cheper elsewhere but I think this is as good a guide as nay

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ected_items=na

this is what I have

4 of these sticks, http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch..._Code= 140178

and that won't be good for vista? LOL

bawdy 03-09-2006 12:32 PM

i think the article is misleading...

going by the graphic in the article its only using 400mb of physical ram and virtual ram is used to double that to make it 800mb... so it would probably run on 512mb and should run no probs on 1gb...

Elli 03-09-2006 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD
"640k ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981

Hah! I knew you watched Space channel!



My two cents: 800MB might not be a huge commit, but the fact that we already know how bloated and inefficient MS software tends to be makes it harder to swallow, I think. I have 1GB of RAM and am planning to upgrade to 2GB soon, since opening Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and email and trillian and firefox and IE at the same time means I can only open a few raw photos in photoshop before I slow down. 4GB of RAM would be sweet.... I've been eyeing some OCZ for a while now.

Looks like it's $280 Cdn for one 2GB chip.

tony286 03-09-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
i know what you are using man ;)

i was just making a point...with all the tweaks and shit you can do on xp, it is a pretty solid machine

seriously, right now I have photoshop and premiere running along with all my normal apps, and I am only using 32% of the system CPU

my box is so tweaked out it isn't funny...

your not rendering, thats when resources get eaten up

tony286 03-09-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
i know what you are using man ;)

i was just making a point...with all the tweaks and shit you can do on xp, it is a pretty solid machine

seriously, right now I have photoshop and premiere running along with all my normal apps, and I am only using 32% of the system CPU

my box is so tweaked out it isn't funny...

also why havent you come over to tweak my box lol

Jace 03-09-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
your not rendering, thats when resources get eaten up

um..I am not?

Jace 03-09-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
also why havent you come over to tweak my box lol

www.tweakxp.com

Young 03-09-2006 12:45 PM

It better eat lightning and shit thunder for that amount of ram.

GatorB 03-09-2006 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace
this is what I have

4 of these sticks, http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch..._Code= 140178

and that won't be good for vista? LOL

That's closer to $200 than $150 just to be technical. Almost $250 if you get the waranty.

I've never heard of that company. They may be alright, but you've got to be careful nowadays who you buy from. When you get Vista please let me know how it's working for you. I'd be curious.

KrisKross 03-09-2006 12:50 PM

You all work on computers every single day, yet many of you think this is outrageous or unbelievable? TGF is right... it's evolution.

When I got my first PC in 96, it had 32 MB of RAM to run Windows 95. As technology progresses, system requirements progress too. It's been the norm for as long as computing has been around.

Most new computers come with 512 MB of RAM standard and have for well over a year. If Vista needs more, PC makers will put more RAM in their pre-built systems if they want to bundle it with Vista. The concept of Walmart loading Vista onto their systems without enough RAM is unbelievable. It's akin to them loading XP Pro on a system with 128 MB of RAM. People would just return the system.

Jace 03-09-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
That's closer to $200 than $150 just to be technical. Almost $250 if you get the waranty.

I've never heard of that company. They may be alright, but you've got to be careful nowadays who you buy from. When you get Vista please let me know how it's working for you. I'd be curious.

Monarch is like 1.5 miles from me, so I think i can trust them a little when I walk into the warehouse and ask for something ;)

I will be getting Vista when any other smart person will be....after it has been out about a year and all the bugs are worked out

shit, remember the windowsme fiasco? I ain't going through that shit

jjjay 03-09-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
Yeah..well, I don't think so.
win 95 was HUGE compared to a dos.
My first 468 had 8mb of memory and was 33mhz, and the computer was too fast for some games. That piece of shit couldn't run 95... it's time to move on from 95.


it does sound bloated though. how much ram/space does a linux or unix install need?

jjjay 03-09-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseFrog
WTF? Did they replace Minesweeper with World of Warcraft as the bundled game?

:1orglaugh I heard they're replacing solitaire with everquest

Jakke PNG 03-09-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjay
it does sound bloated though. how much ram/space does a linux or unix install need?

Not much. I think you can run some linux-installations from CD.
But I don't think you can directly compare linux with vista.

monro 03-09-2006 12:57 PM

If you know to handle a computer of course you use unix/linux.
And don't have to insult people thinking it is wrong of Microsoft taking over and users follow like lambs.

jjjay 03-09-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
Not much. I think you can run some linux-installations from CD.
But I don't think you can directly compare linux with vista.

comparing the two - they're both operating systems. okay, so microsoft adds a pretty interface. but why does microsoft need so much more code and resources?

Evil Doer 03-09-2006 01:32 PM

The only thing in Vista that looks half decent is MHS.. Although I'm going to wait for Windows Server 2007

Barefootsies 03-09-2006 01:56 PM

I honestly do not care how much RAM a system needs for the OS. How about Micro$oft actually takes their bloated OS, and make one that is STABLE and not full of bugs. I am sure people could give a good goddamn if it took a gig of RAM if it was not full of holes, and required endless patches all the time.

:disgust

gideongallery 03-09-2006 02:04 PM

for those of you that read the article instead of just the title would realize that it a FUD article

"Vista eats as much as 800Mb of system memory. "

remember that vista allow you to prioritize programs so they will minimize the use of page file and utilize available memory to maximize the effectiveness of switching between programs

If you did this and then minimized the apps so they were out of main process
you would get a performace page exactly like the one shown.

http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/ramvista.JPG
take a look at the huge spike in the cpu history, and relevent number in paged vs non page kernel memory and you can tell that is exactly the configuiration this FUDmeister did when they wrote the article.

acctman 03-09-2006 02:13 PM

1. he's running a BETA
2. vista comes in not 1 but 5 different version yes FIVE!
3. the home edition won't have all the fancy visual crap that will eat up virtual memory and ram.
4. if you want all the stuff flying around on your screen and 3d effects its going to need more RAM!

acctman 03-09-2006 02:17 PM

i'm running winxp pro and its using 1103M / 2201M. so 800m is nothing, i wonder if that guy knows that part of it is virtual mem

woj 03-09-2006 02:22 PM

TGF is right, come on, even if you only have 512 megs now, you toss in another gig for $100 and you are set... hardly worth sweating about... It's like bitching that you need a $300 graphics card to play some newest games, if you wanna play, you gotta pay...

jjjay 03-09-2006 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by woj
TGF is right, come on, even if you only have 512 megs now, you toss in another gig for $100 and you are set... hardly worth sweating about... It's like bitching that you need a $300 graphics card to play some newest games, if you wanna play, you gotta pay...

yes, but is a new version of windows really worth spending several hundred dollars over?

I want my OS to be functional, that's it. if I want bells and whistles, I'll install them myself.

acctman 03-09-2006 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjay
yes, but is a new version of windows really worth spending several hundred dollars over?

I want my OS to be functional, that's it. if I want bells and whistles, I'll install them myself.

MS is not forcing anyone to get the new version it's just will be out there. Corporations still use win 2000. Vista is coming out later this year and Win XP SP3 is scheduled for release early 2007. so MS is not forcing anyone to upgrade just giving you the option to take advantage of 64bit processing and a lot more interactive crap and upgrades. all my computers are atleast 1gig - 2gig in ram. RAM is really cheap cruial.com has really good deals

woj 03-09-2006 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjay
yes, but is a new version of windows really worth spending several hundred dollars over?

I want my OS to be functional, that's it. if I want bells and whistles, I'll install them myself.

If it's not worth it to you, then don't buy it, I won't buy it myself either, fuck spending few hundred on an update that doesn't add shit, besides some colorful animations, some window effects, new version of IE (which I won't use anyway), new media player (won't use anyway), and maybe 2 other useless things... yea, the graphics are cute, but they don't really get my work done any faster/better...

SCORE Ralph 03-09-2006 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseFrog
WTF? Did they replace Minesweeper with World of Warcraft as the bundled game?

ROTFL!!! :1orglaugh :thumbsup

pocketkangaroo 03-09-2006 04:23 PM

There are 5 versions of Vista. Not to mention it's a screenshot at one particular time on the guys computer. There is no way in hell that this will use over 800MB, atleast not on the version they plan to sell to the majority of the public. So many other factors can play in there too.

It's just another stupid tech article with an unfounded rumor. Remember how XBox 360's were going to retail at $1000.


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