For those designers who know less than nothing about html....
 

1.jpg is NOT the same thing as 1.JPG.

k? Thanks.

and \fubar\lala.jpg is not the same as /fubar/lala.jpg

and not the same as /fubar/Lala.jpg

and not the same as /fubar/Lala.JPG

And not the same as /fubar/Jane.jpg

A designer designs and makes a site / tour webready so the person
who orders the design only have to upload the web ready slices and html he/ she designed. If it is not working hell ..... yeah that sucks!

some VERY good advice in this thread LMAO

the World would be a better place if everyone just used lowercase...

exactly

and

exactly

:thumbsup

A designer'created something do you really think he/she
cares about upper or lowercase? A search and replace can fix
lot although I agree a good designer should make its work
webready .

I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with HTML?
That's a UNIX filesystem thing, not HTML.

A designer should be able to see that images aren't loading in their own designs before sending them off to the client. :2 cents:

I hate it when I see designers use the default photoshop HTML for tours with 30 little spacer images in it.

sinnerscorner, said and I quote "A designer'created something do you really think he/she
cares about upper or lowercase? A search and replace can fix
lot although I agree a good designer should make its work
webready ."

A good designer does... just like we care about how our designs look when they are printed.

Offcourse it should work at the local pc / mac whatever if that does not work
........hmmmm it is probably not a good designer, but my point is .... ehmmm
a designer is imho a sort of an artist who can create cooooool looking websites,
if you bother him/ her too much about technical or operating system issues
he/ she will likely be less creative in some way I guess.

Just my 2.

I hate teenagers that think because they downloaded a ripped copy of PS from their favorite warez site, somehow that gives them license to start spouting off about "I'm a designer! And I have something relevant to say!"


you fucking idiots should really check yourselves.

i wholeheartedly agree

sinnerscorner said, and I quote, "Offcourse it should work at the local pc / mac whatever if that does not work
........hmmmm it is probably not a good designer, but my point is .... ehmmm
a designer is imho a sort of an artist who can create cooooool looking websites,
if you bother him/ her too much about technical or operating system issues
he/ she will likely be less creative in some way I guess.

Just my 2."


That's why there are so many people out there who call themself a designer. There's way more to being a graphic designer than making shit "look cool". Good designers know the technical stuff.

As far as webdesign goes, you should at minimum know basic HTML & CSS, how to optimize images to their best potential, screen sizes, when to use a GIF or a JPEG, plus a bunch more that comes with these.

i've had that problem many times, so i'll share what helped me

a program called Total Commander

http://www.ghisler.com/

completely free

you can set it to mass rename every .jpg to .JPG or vise versa...

if the pics are already online, you can make it login to the ftp and mass rename that way too

:thumbsup

Thanks, but just having ssh access does that for me. However, it doesn't help much when 5 pics out of 15 are .jpg and the other 10 are .JPG.

I have to then be renaming files AND edit the html.

Even then, it wouldn't be quite so bad if it was just one time... however...

I find it hard to belive any so called designer doesn't know this...I mean...

It is a beneift when designers know more about implementing a design on
an unix / windows / server but basically I think a designer ' creates a design
I do not agree with you about the '' Good designers know the technical stuff"
part . IMHO a good designer is a freak in designing pages / logo's banners
whatever he / she created cool stufff. how it is put on the server eventually ,, who cares that is for the
tech nerds.

sinnerscorner, said and I quote, "It is a beneift when designers know more about implementing a design on
an unix / windows / server but basically I think a designer ' creates a design
I do not agree with you about the '' Good designers know the technical stuff"
part . IMHO a good designer is a freak in designing pages / logo's banners
whatever he / she created cool stufff. how it is put on the server eventually ,, who cares that is for the
tech nerds."

Obviously you haven't been to design school, and/or haven't worked for a design firm. So you can disagree, but you'd be wrong.

That has ZERO to do with HTML.

DamageX said, and I quote, "That has ZERO to do with HTML."


Really? By knowing HTML I know that a page that has that tag <img src="image.JPG"> will not load an image called image.jpg

So seems to me that is does have something to do with knowing HTML.

I'm sorry, should I start breaking down the intricacies of file name structures amongst various programming and operating system platforms for the sake of the designers who can't even get the html right? Or do ya think that might be a tad much for them?

But hey, you sounded smart for a second there. Good work! :thumbsup

Nope, it doesn't. If you have no idea that *nix OS's will see lowercase and uppercase letters as different, then its is not your fault. Being familiar with various OS's filesystems is not a requirement for doing design.

See above.

Wow dude, you got me there... lol.

If I had a trophy, you'd be sure to get it.


Funny how I know nothing about server operating systems and don't give a rats ass to know about it, yet I know that if I change .JPG and .jpg images might not load...

If you missed the point of his post, we can't really help you there, but keep patting yourself on the back for being so smart about *nix or whatever you said.

No, but it is a requirement for doing GOOD design that works when it should and doesn't just create more work for the client.

You think that's bad? The other day someone sent me galleries with SRC="C:\Docume...." in it.. wtf.

Congratulations, you sure told me. Your mother must be very proud. You're still wrong though, but hey, as long as it makes you feel good that you told me off. You're a winner in my book. :thumbsup

Now that must have been a top level designer! :1orglaugh

I could get all anal and ask you to define design, as per human computer interaction guidelines. Not gonna do that though. I agree with you here, in order to create readily usable stuff, that would be a requirement. My people have gotten slapped upside the head quite a few times, until they learned this. Good thing I always double check and rarely let anything slip through to the client. It DOES waste a lot of my time though, so I sure understand your frustration.

I am sorry, how exactly am I wrong? I didn't state any facts other than about myself, and I am pretty sure I know more about myself than you...

Arm getting tired yet? try the other one for awhile.

that is for those who absolutely don't know shit because that is a lesson you learn quick :)

DamageX said, and I quote, "I could get all anal and ask you to define design, as per human computer interaction guidelines. Not gonna do that though. I agree with you here, in order to create readily usable stuff, that would be a requirement. My people have gotten slapped upside the head quite a few times, until they learned this. Good thing I always double check and rarely let anything slip through to the client. It DOES waste a lot of my time though, so I sure understand your frustration."

Here I will quote Gregg Berryman, from his book "Notes on graphic design and visual communication", which any one who has ever been to design school refers to as the bible of graphic design.

"Graphic design is NOT art. The fine artist has an audience of only one (herself or himself). The Graphic Designer deals with a mass audience of sometimes milllions. INTENT is different. Often a graphic design looks like art (and vice versa). Materials and techniques are similar. Both artist and design solve visual problems. The artist satisfies self while the designer must move groups of people to attend an event, follow a sign, understand a map, learn a scientific principle, or buy a product.

Graphic Designers attempt to achieve visual solutions that are FUNCTIONAL, elegant, appropriate, simple and economical. They solve problems that range from the simplicity of a sales poster to the complexity of a sign system for an international airport."

Feel proud now? You managed to prove that you can't even define design. All you did was quote someone's words on GRAPHIC design. Anyway, I'm out. You know what they say about arguing on the interwebs. You just won. Someone post the KB pic.

LOL, why would I define design when this thread is about DESIGNERS?

ya you better run... lol the smell of shit from talking out your ass must be overwhelming.