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iBanker 03-29-2005 11:52 AM

Why JasonandAlex.com is leaving NATS.
 
I will say it one more time here and now. This was not out to harm anyone, but when another man (John Albright, owner of NATS to my knowledge) calls our Company or any of its employees liars, I am forced to defend all. I speak the truth. We run a solid business built on firm ground, and I will have words (or initiate immediate legal action) with anyone the makes such defamatory claims saying otherwise.

If anyone thinks NATS is UNSHAVEABLE then you need to see this. Here is a screencap of what NATS reports I should pay my affiliates for all rebills (recurring charges) for ELECTRACASH (one of our check processors)

5 total rebills.

http://www.jasonandalex.com/images/nats/nats01.jpg

Here is what ELECTRACASH says I should pay.

275 total rebills.

http://www.jasonandalex.com/images/nats/nats02.jpg

270 missing rebills because of NATS. FACT.

Do you know how long it takes to even find that problem, and THEN cut separate checks for the affiliates to make sure you do the right thing and they get paid for their hard work? This is one of the many problems we had with NATS and one of the many reasons we moved far away from it.

Now, you can expect John or one of his tech guys to jump on this board and give you all a line (or explanation depending on how you decide to view it) about how this is some security loophole, and it has to do with it being ELECTRACASH's fault, and so on. It always seemed to be someone else's fault when it came to the blame being pointed at NATS (and I have further proof of this as well). The only reason we went with Nats was because of the NO SHAVE feature.

This is just the beginning?

MickeyG 03-29-2005 11:52 AM

sig spot. :thumbsup

seriously though, this is some crazy shit I was thinking of using NATS now im wondering if thats such a good idea. Guess I better do my homework first. :helpme

karlm 03-29-2005 11:53 AM

Drama for sure

Fletch XXX 03-29-2005 11:54 AM

rut roh

cheers

:glugglug

triumph 03-29-2005 11:54 AM

wow this could be a problem.

TDF 03-29-2005 11:55 AM

thats a shitload of joins

wdsguy 03-29-2005 11:55 AM

Heres a sig spot

69pornlinks 03-29-2005 11:55 AM

okey dokey...8 pager?

TurboAngel 03-29-2005 11:56 AM

Sig spot.


:upsidedow

Fletch XXX 03-29-2005 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69pornlinks
okey dokey...8 pager?

at least 6.

cherrylula 03-29-2005 11:56 AM

wow that's not good at all.

Sosa 03-29-2005 11:56 AM

that is a big time difference

Manowar 03-29-2005 11:56 AM

Holy moly. Sig spot

iBanker 03-29-2005 11:56 AM

Now call me a liar. I speak the truth.

European Lee 03-29-2005 11:57 AM

I told people NATs could still be used and the sponsor could shave sales several months ago... Did anyone listen? Nope :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

Relish XXX 03-29-2005 11:57 AM

I still think if I was going to run an affiliate program I would use www.executivestats.com as the demo I saw of it blew my mind.

Dirty F 03-29-2005 11:57 AM

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiicee...
Just when i was bored.

BVF 03-29-2005 11:57 AM

This is why I'm sticking to the good old fashioned ccbill affiliate software...Transparency with no bullshit and most importantly, no extra work on my part.

by the way.....See sig.

sonofsam 03-29-2005 11:58 AM

i'm guessing this will be a 6 pager min....

BVF 03-29-2005 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee
I told people NATs could still be used and the sponsor could shave sales several months ago... Did anyone listen? Nope :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

Yep I remember that thread and everybody jumped down your throat for it.

xlogger 03-29-2005 11:58 AM

O SNAPPPPPPPP SON!

:winkwink: :(

gregtx 03-29-2005 11:59 AM

See Sig ;)

eroswebmaster 03-29-2005 12:00 PM

weird wild stuff.

TDF 03-29-2005 12:00 PM

sig spots secured..icq me to discuss prebookings!

Makingcoin 03-29-2005 12:00 PM

Would love to hear nats response to this!

SmokeyTheBear 03-29-2005 12:00 PM

very bad shady news. I said this along time ago when i noticed shitty stats with nats..

THE PROGRAM SHOULD NOTICE A SUDDEN INCREASE IN UNTRACKED SIGNUPS and a SUDDEN LOWERING OF AFFILIATE PAYOUTS

If they dont they know they are ripping people off.

And i think realitycash has already proven that nats can be shaved ( they werent shaving , but broken fhg's meant the nats was not tracked , ad they still got signups )

Makingcoin 03-29-2005 12:01 PM

Btw. Nats has been solid for us, we don't use electracash however.

Nader 03-29-2005 12:02 PM

Wow that's a big difference..so far so good with our NATS sys

European Lee 03-29-2005 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
Yep I remember that thread and everybody jumped down your throat for it.

Fancy digging that thread up i cant find it LOL

Regards,

Lee

69pornlinks 03-29-2005 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
at least 6.

it will get PLENTY of views for a fact not too many replies...so i'll say 8 it'll die down after the PR starts.....


oh yeah REALITYCASH works great for TGP tarffic check it out :)

Yo Adrian 03-29-2005 12:03 PM

Ohhh Shit!

Dayum Chris.. so this is what you wanted to tell me over the phone last week.. That's quite a few joins to be miscounted.

iBanker 03-29-2005 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yo Adrian
Ohhh Shit!

Dayum Chris.. so this is what you wanted to tell me over the phone last week.. That's quite a few joins to be miscounted.

No, I wanted to talk to you about Arizona, thats all. :)

StuartD 03-29-2005 12:05 PM

I see a mushroom cloud on the horizon.....

mahoney 03-29-2005 12:06 PM

Wow, I predict this to be one long ass thread.

European Lee 03-29-2005 12:07 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=404688

Enjoy :thumbsup

Regards,

Lee

chupachups 03-29-2005 12:08 PM

popcorn?

EddiePulp 03-29-2005 12:09 PM

hmm very shady I must say. I Know of alot of programs that left MPA because of how dodgy MPA2 was ... but now NATS... hmm who can you trust... I'm very interested to hear NATS response to this.

SmokeyTheBear 03-29-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
Btw. Nats has been solid for us, we don't use electracash however.


The problem isnt with the sponsor , they do great , less payouts/more signups

the problem is affliates aren't getting their cut.

Forest 03-29-2005 12:12 PM

ahh first page sig spot

:upsidedow

xlogger 03-29-2005 12:12 PM



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