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HotChocolate 03-19-2005 12:22 AM

We need 20 Exclsuive Scenes, PerfectGonzo Quality!
 
Which content provider can do this Job? Why canīt I find anyone that matches the quality of PerfectGonzo? What equipment do they use? Email me with offers or leave your contact info here. Our budget is high is you can provide that quality.

Thanks,

J.Milman
[email protected]

Alex Xe 03-19-2005 12:32 AM

check www.aivengo.com

abyss_al 03-19-2005 12:34 AM

all you need is the right filters and lighting... pretty easy :thumbsup

Relish XXX 03-19-2005 12:39 AM

I could easily do it for you. Check out my samples at www.relishxxx.tv

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyss_al
all you need is the right filters and lighting... pretty easy :thumbsup

If itīs easy why canīt I find such quality at any of the big content providers? Isnīt that odd?

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relish XXX
I could easily do it for you. Check out my samples at www.relishxxx.tv

Great site, but your samples dont look anything close to Perfectgonzo quality. :winkwink:

bigdog 03-19-2005 01:04 AM

i have been wondering the same thing, if anyone could match their quality they would have posted a video sample on gfy about now

VanessaG 03-19-2005 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog
i have been wondering the same thing, if anyone could match their quality they would have posted a video sample on gfy about now

Me too! Thereīs some great providers out there but I havnīt seen anyone who can match PGīs quality. What do they do thats so special? :helpme

quiet 03-19-2005 01:07 AM

good luck :)

DeanCapture 03-19-2005 01:11 AM

I know their secret....but I'm not tell'n :winkwink:

VanessaG 03-19-2005 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture
I know their secret....but I'm not tell'n :winkwink:

Please Please Please Tell!

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture
I know their secret....but I'm not tell'n :winkwink:

I think it would be very interesting for everyone. Many providers would learn a lot if you gave us all some insight. Photo content with top quality can be found in many places but NO ONE has video quality like PerfectGonzo. I was convinced that I would find such quality at some of the leading providers but I was disappointed. :helpme

Relish XXX 03-19-2005 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotChocolate
Great site, but your samples dont look anything close to Perfectgonzo quality. :winkwink:

That is a style we shoot in for the European market. The perfect gonzo stuff is easy. It is just a different style of lighting. To be quite honest it is easier than what I usually do as I tend to want a more natural feel to the lighting as opposed to the over lit style of perfect gonzo.

Relish XXX 03-19-2005 01:33 AM

It is lit as though you are doing a photo shoot and not a video shoot.

DeanCapture 03-19-2005 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotChocolate
I think it would be very interesting for everyone. Many providers would learn a lot if you gave us all some insight. Photo content with top quality can be found in many places but NO ONE has video quality like PerfectGonzo. I was convinced that I would find such quality at some of the leading providers but I was disappointed. :helpme

I agree - it would be very interesting for some people. In fact, lots of people would be copying their technique and then everybodies vids would look like PerfectGonzo vids. Everybody copies everybody in this industry already....why feed that?

This is one of those things that seperates people who have studied photography for years and those that just bought a camera and thought they'd open a content production company. It took me about 20 minutes to figure out what they were doing and I wondered why others haven't started doing it. And then...it dawned on me. Most content producers that I see out there today (notice I said most...not all) have no formal photography training. They bought a camera, a few lights and maybe a photography book or took a class. That's fine and all but when it comes to figuring out some technical shit like this - they're completely lost. I'm not knocking these guys - some of them do quite well financially and have no desire to be great photographers. If I spilled the beans about PerfectGonzo's techniques right now - these guys would be doing those techniques tomorrow and the next thing you know everybody and their brother would be doing them.

So for now....I'm gonna keep it to myself and let PerfectGonzo get the credit that they deserve for coming up with some groundbreaking techniques that none of the rest of you thought about :thumbsup

webgurl 03-19-2005 01:42 AM

I have to agree perfect gonzo is really high end looking tight ! Conversions are good too , topnotch who can replicate their stuff ?

Greg Jacobson 03-19-2005 01:45 AM

Most porn is shot on 1/3 inch CCD consumer cams like the VX2000. There is a reason professionals use cameras with 2/3 inch CCds. Most likely PG are using a pro level PAL camera and they (PAL) have about 20% more resolution than NTSC cams.

Also, PAL has a different frame rate than NTSC which makes a difference to how you react to the footage even though you may not be aware of it.

In addition to PG possibly using a professional PAL camera they look like they actualy know how to use it. Most of the video you see on websites is shot with consumer cameras in full auto mode so it ends up looking like a home movie.

Also, I am sure they are color correcting in post which makes the skin tones look much much better.

Add to that the locations they use tend to not be the usual cheesy porn set that looks like a display at a discount furniture store.

And of course the Hungarian euro babes don't hurt either.

So there is one thing they are doing to make their videos look so good. They are most likey just executing an overall higher quality production than you are used to seeing.

One of the aspects of PG videos I like the most is the fact that you don't hear the camera guy asking the model stupid questions and making idiotic comments. You can here him whisper things to the model but it is under breathe so it is not nearly as annoying.

Greg Jacobson 03-19-2005 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotChocolate
Which content provider can do this Job? Why canīt I find anyone that matches the quality of PerfectGonzo? What equipment do they use? Email me with offers or leave your contact info here. Our budget is high is you can provide that quality.

Thanks,

J.Milman
[email protected]


I will get some samples together that are raw with others that are color corrected and you will see a big difference.

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture
I agree - it would be very interesting for some people. In fact, lots of people would be copying their technique and then everybodies vids would look like PerfectGonzo vids. Everybody copies everybody in this industry already....why feed that?

This is one of those things that seperates people who have studied photography for years and those that just bought a camera and thought they'd open a content production company. It took me about 20 minutes to figure out what they were doing and I wondered why others haven't started doing it. And then...it dawned on me. Most content producers that I see out there today (notice I said most...not all) have no formal photography training. They bought a camera, a few lights and maybe a photography book or took a class. That's fine and all but when it comes to figuring out some technical shit like this - they're completely lost. I'm not knocking these guys - some of them do quite well financially and have no desire to be great photographers. If I spilled the beans about PerfectGonzo's techniques right now - these guys would be doing those techniques tomorrow and the next thing you know everybody and their brother would be doing them.

So for now....I'm gonna keep it to myself and let PerfectGonzo get the credit that they deserve for coming up with some groundbreaking techniques that none of the rest of you thought about :thumbsup

Very well written! :thumbsup Read and learn content providers!!!

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobson
Most porn is shot on 1/3 inch CCD consumer cams like the VX2000. There is a reason professionals use cameras with 2/3 inch CCds. Most likely PG are using a pro level PAL camera and they (PAL) have about 20% more resolution than NTSC cams.

Also, PAL has a different frame rate than NTSC which makes a difference to how you react to the footage even though you may not be aware of it.

In addition to PG possibly using a professional PAL camera they look like they actualy know how to use it. Most of the video you see on websites is shot with consumer cameras in full auto mode so it ends up looking like a home movie.

Also, I am sure they are color correcting in post which makes the skin tones look much much better.

Add to that the locations they use tend to not be the usual cheesy porn set that looks like a display at a discount furniture store.

And of course the Hungarian euro babes don't hurt either.

So there is one thing they are doing to make their videos look so good. They are most likey just executing an overall higher quality production than you are used to seeing.

One of the aspects of PG videos I like the most is the fact that you don't hear the camera guy asking the model stupid questions and making idiotic comments. You can here him whisper things to the model but it is under breathe so it is not nearly as annoying.

Thank you for your response! Very interesting! I would love to see the samples. Do you think they shoot in HD?

abyss_al 03-19-2005 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotChocolate
If itīs easy why canīt I find such quality at any of the big content providers? Isnīt that odd?

it's expensive, takes time, gotta know what ur doing, and gotta have the proper gear... they don't shoot regular format... most content companies don't know other formats and lighting and filters.. etc.....

SinisterStudios 03-19-2005 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relish XXX
I could easily do it for you. Check out my samples at www.relishxxx.tv

Harry does some high quality shit, you wont be dissapointed

BVF 03-19-2005 05:36 AM

A surfer doesn't give a shit about lighting and frames per second....Is the video clear enough for him to see what's going on? If so, he'll spank one.

dannyK 03-19-2005 05:38 AM

it's all about the lens... and about the budapest whores...
PG photo style is both close and wide..
but what makes their contact so great is that
the whores are knockout babes

WTG PERFECT GONZO

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
A surfer doesn't give a shit about lighting and frames per second....Is the video clear enough for him to see what's going on? If so, he'll spank one.

I would have to partially disagree on that with you. Many surfers are looking to get a good product for their money. I havnīt seen a site out there which has better qulaity then PerfectGonzo. Most site trail behind in quality when it comes to PerfectGonzo. Iīm just saying that if you want to sell a unique product and stand out in the crowd you should try to take on the best. :2 cents:

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyK
it's all about the lens... and about the budapest whores...
PG photo style is both close and wide..
but what makes their contact so great is that
the whores are knockout babes

WTG PERFECT GONZO

The girls they use are available in most Eastern European model agencies. I could show you scenes with the same girls which are crap. What makes them stand out is the quality of the video. No one can match that. Just look how quiet all the big content providers are! No one has posted any good samples here or even addressed this matter. :winkwink:

Nydahl 03-19-2005 05:53 AM

Yes they are the best and to be honest I am not sure if I can make it but...
I have talked to perfectgonzo about possible shooting for them about 2 months ago.I think quality wasn't the problem to make a deal at all.
I use high-end Hedler video lighting system which delivers excellent results.I use the same cameras like they do.So basicly the result is matter of convert (very important part)
go to our models area (pass : adultczechcontent.com) and download AVI files samples (download all 4 samples).
then let me know if it matchs your idea.

abyss_al 03-19-2005 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotChocolate
I havnīt seen a site out there which has better qulaity then PerfectGonzo. Most site trail behind in quality when it comes to PerfectGonzo. :2 cents:


i think these guys are just as good as PG:
www.qmov.com

:thumbsup

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nydahl
Yes they are the best and to be honest I am not sure if I can make it but...
I have talked to perfectgonzo about possible shooting for them about 2 months ago.I think quality wasn't the problem to make a deal at all.
I use high-end Hedler video lighting system which delivers excellent results.I use the same cameras like they do.So basicly the result is matter of convert (very important part)
go to our models area (pass : adultczechcontent.com) and download AVI files samples (download all 4 samples).
then let me know if it matchs your idea.

I love your work, great quality. Let me show this to my partners and we will get back to you on Monday. Itīs not PerfectGonzo but damn close. Iīm not an expert but i was thinking that maybe itīs HD Cameras that give such quality. Do you shoot in HD? I didnīt think itīs conversion or encoding.

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyss_al
i think these guys are just as good as PG:
www.qmov.com

:thumbsup

The site looks great but after downloading a sample you can see thatīs itīs just average quality which can be found on any other site. :2 cents:

Paul Markham 03-19-2005 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
A surfer doesn't give a shit about lighting and frames per second....Is the video clear enough for him to see what's going on? If so, he'll spank one.

Go tell that to Private and Wicked.

You sometimes come out with such crap.

Paul Markham 03-19-2005 06:47 AM

OK firstly the videos are just good and can be shot by most competent videographers. This quality is usually sold to the DVD market country by country.

Problem is few on the Net will pay the price. The cameras are not $1,000 from the local store, the lighting is not cheap, the skills to use the equipment are not learned over the weekend.

So I would be selling these scenes exclusive for about $5,000 +

You can't beat the prices of content down to the ground and expect good content providers to be banging on the door. PG are moving this market forward as are Private, Hustler, Hustler and many more. As the surfer sees what others can do he will soon be growing tired of the crap others produce.

As the Net speeds up expect more companies to step into this side of the porn business with 10 years of production in their archives.

Trent Edison 03-19-2005 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
A surfer doesn't give a shit about lighting and frames per second....Is the video clear enough for him to see what's going on? If so, he'll spank one.

You are fucking idiot. Thats why PG make more sales in a day than you and the crackwhores you fuck on camera make in a month.

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charly
OK firstly the videos are just good and can be shot by most competent videographers. This quality is usually sold to the DVD market country by country.

Problem is few on the Net will pay the price. The cameras are not $1,000 from the local store, the lighting is not cheap, the skills to use the equipment are not learned over the weekend.

So I would be selling these scenes exclusive for about $5,000 +

You can't beat the prices of content down to the ground and expect good content providers to be banging on the door. PG are moving this market forward as are Private, Hustler, Hustler and many more. As the surfer sees what others can do he will soon be growing tired of the crap others produce.

As the Net speeds up expect more companies to step into this side of the porn business with 10 years of production in their archives.

I would have no problem paying $5,000 for a scene of that quality, but looking around at all the providers I havnīt seen one which could impress me.

bigdog 03-19-2005 07:34 AM

if someone could acutally reproduce and not just talk what perfectgonzo does they could make a lot of money shooting for others

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog
if someone could acutally reproduce and not just talk what perfectgonzo does they could make a lot of money shooting for others

Well said!!! Apart from AdultCzechContent no one was able to give me a clear answer nor show a decent sample.

Nydahl 03-19-2005 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotChocolate
I love your work, great quality. Let me show this to my partners and we will get back to you on Monday. Itīs not PerfectGonzo but damn close. Iīm not an expert but i was thinking that maybe itīs HD Cameras that give such quality. Do you shoot in HD? I didnīt think itīs conversion or encoding.

ok I can see that little difference too - I am not a naive idiot
Anyway yes I do and right now I waiting for new camera released which should be the best choise of today.It will be in local stores in the end of the march.

HotChocolate 03-19-2005 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nydahl
ok I can see that little difference too - I am not a naive idiot
Anyway yes I do and right now I waiting for new camera released which should be the best choise of today.It will be in local stores in the end of the march.

Which camera would that be?

Paul Markham 03-19-2005 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotChocolate
I would have no problem paying $5,000 for a scene of that quality, but looking around at all the providers I havnīt seen one which could impress me.

And you will not while people want a hardcore scene for $2,000.

You can get this quality but you have to move up into the Video market.

Hit me up on ICQ and maybe we could put something together for you.

Don't be misled by what we have on our site it's for the Internet only and shot accordingly.

Quote:

if someone could acutally reproduce and not just talk what perfectgonzo does they could make a lot of money shooting for others
Plenty of people can shoot it, go down to your local porn video store and see for yourselves. I know of two people who can shoot it living in Prague.

As for no samples, why stream something that you will not sell. The better money for the Internet is to shoot it cheap and compress it so the webmasters buy it for MPG galleries.

Start shooting this quality and the price will sky rocket and that will affect sales. Look for my thread about a guy complaining about me putting up prices $5 after 3 years.

Nydahl 03-19-2005 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotChocolate
Which camera would that be?

my ICQ in my sig

anyway Charly wake up man
the age of mpgs or wmv in 352x288 (like we sell today in our content shop) is over.I think any video in lower resolution as 600x480 is wasting of time.It will take just a few moments of your life and all the people will be connected to internet pretty fast(switch the TV on and take a look at commercials of internet providers).Forget about doing something for dialups - its wasting of time and soon you will re convert it again to higher rsolution.
no neep to pay me for opening your eyes bro - you know I love you :thumbsup


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