Troops fire on civilians? (video)
 

Anybody know what's going on in the ivory coast? Supposedly this video is of French soldiers shooting at protesters just days ago. It's extremely graphic :

Video Here

What's the bigger picture of what's going on there?

103mb?

this will take a while.

100mb file @ 90kb/sec

Yeah it's like 9 minutes long, mostly boring, but some gruesome parts. Don't save as. I was able to play it right away since it's an mpg. I can play wmv files straight away too, only avi files seem to have to download fully before being able to view.

Didn't actually see them fire at the protestors. You just hear some shooting and alot of confusion, they could be firing back. My best guess is that they where fired upon and fired back, didn't see any reason why they would just start firing into peacefull protestors.

Damn, I thought that guy that got his hand all fucked up was nasty, but I just got to the part with that guys head completely blown to shit :repuke

Apparently they did fire into civilians to avenge the death of their soldiers the day before.

I love the French. They are just so superior.

Way too long to download :(

there was ashort clip floating somewhere, anyone have it?

These guys need to learn how to recode and compress video better. :1orglaugh

so US soldiers do something wrong and all the anit-Americans fucks jump all over us Americans. But when the French shoot a bunch of un armed civilians it's just oh they must have been shot at.. Sorry I didn't see any guns in the hands of these dead people.

we're hated too much for people to think reasonably

I was wrong, after watching the very graphic video. It's a very high quality video with extreme violence. Lot's of people injured with lot's of blood :repuke

The Ivory Coast is one of the last remaining french colonies. About a week and a half ago, it boiled over and what the US would call 'insurgents' lashed out against the French. France has no fucking right to be there and they are almost as shitty as the bush administration except for ONE thing. France does not BOLDFACE lie to everyone, they're attitude is more like, "Yeah, we're here, we want your fucking resources, we're doing this fuck you" Where as the US lies and lies and lies and lies and lies and lies and lies. with all those lies people become very deluded. Not to mention ther US media (CNN) Lies and Lies and Lies and Lies and Lies.....you get the idea. so, in conclusion FUCK US FOREIGN POLICY AND FUCK THE CURRENT REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION

oh so in other words if We would have just said, hey French Fuck Faces and Russians.. We are taking over Iraq stop selling them weapons and by passing the sanctions or were going to bomb you too. Then I assume there would have been no protests?

Less Hypocrisy means less protests. It's a theme from a little book called "The Prince" by some dude named Machiavelli. BTW, Americans were also selling weapons to Iraqi warlords as well as Saddam Hussein in the late 80's. That point is from an article titled "The Arms Trade" by Mark Phyhian published 2003. The french are known for their bluntness. It goes back to Descartes. readf a book if you want more info. thats why they let a group of rebel Insurgents and terrorists create this little thing called the "Declaration of Independance" in France protected from pissed off British royalty.

yea it's not that I disagree with you about what the govts do.. I think all our govts suck. Before the US govt got into Empire building it was the French and the Brits.

I just get sick of the double standards about Americans. If that was American troops in that vid there would be 50 posts on the front page of every webmaster board bitching about Americans.

But becouse it's the French doing it no one cares..

True. Probably because it doesn't directly affect anyone here really. I mean it's just as horrible as the chechnians bobmbing that elementary school (It WAS Chechnyans by the way, not Al_Queda like CNN was 'reporting') - The US is playing a much more complex game with their own citizens. I think that causes much of the rage. You seem like a pretty intelligent Dude - check out Noam Chompsky's "Necessary Illusion" - Everything made sense after reading that. you can download the Massy Hall Lecture too and listen to it. It's about creating fear so people don't pay attention to reality. And you're right, more people should give a damn about this, where do Refugees come from? Hmmmmmm?

Well in fairness to the french we should just let this slide, I know it was against unarmed civilians but at least they didn't surrender to them this time...

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100 meg... :helpme

Perhaps the story hasn't quite reached critical mass yet? I'd think once the right-wing blogosphere get hold of it, it'll get coverage (you're right though probably not the same extent as if it was americans)..

But also, the United States put itself out there as this pillar of freedom and decency so it's always going to be a target when it doesn't live up to this.

Some Facts Based in Reality NOT in the US

US has never been invaeded. First Attack on US soil? Sept 11 2001 - welcome to the world

Second- the French have 50 times more class than the Average Amercan and a good number of Canadians as well

Thirdly - Nothing is WRONG with not wanting to assist the Bush Crime Sydicate

In WW1 When france was invaded the Americans did nothing until 1917 when thei own intersts were threatened (German U boats - read an non american textbook)

WW 2 - US did nothing until their colony was attached (Islands)

US Foreign Policy dictates CIA can fund and assit puppet governments from the shadows.

WHO ARE THE PUSSIES NOW? Not France, Probably Canada and Definately US Government

u cant compare what the french are doing to invading a country..when the us went into somalia in 93 (as seen in black hawk down) i didnt hear much about that either, until the movie (i think i remember clinton give a speech on it too after it happened). In any case, somalia was a mess, ivory coast probably was too, so unless u use a chaingun and kill thousands, i think ppl wont give 2 shits.

Hi Surfer,
You might want to check the same history books you're saying other people should read.
how about the WTC bombing in 1993?

Don't forget to mention how we bailed the French out in Vietnam besides that.. If the French were so good, then why do they still try to control these places? Simply for money the same reason the US invaded Iraq. The French govt is no better than the US govt same with the Brits as if you look at history the Brits were empire building in the mid east long before the US ever got involved.

You forget to mention the main reason the French and the Russians were against going into Iraq was because they were currently doing millions of dollars of business with Iraq illegally by-passing the sanctions.

Sure I don't agree with us going into Iraq and I think it was wrong, but don't hold the Frenchies up to be holier than hell when they are only out for their own interests. If the French would have been able to gain financially by going into Iraq they would have been along for the ride as well.

Wasn't that an American? The half ton with fertilizer? I could be wrong, I thought it was one of those right wing militia groups...

I certainly agree. It just pissess me off when retards take shots at the French. The french and Belgium are responsable for some of the worst attrocities in Africa, particularly the Ivory Coast and apparently in Serria Leone. I don't have any valid articles about the French in Sierra Leone but there are allegations

I was actually quoting Noam Chompsky from his interview in the book 9/11 - he's a pretty solid source

absolutely incorrect.
It was a plot by Ramzi Yousef, the same person who plotted the Al Quada "48 hours of terror"
The bomb also consisted of sodium cyanide and would have been the first chemical weapon attack on U.S soil if the gas had not been consumed by the explosive.

I don't care if it was on one of the tablets of Moses, he is incorrect.

And your source would be? I'm not taking any shots here, I really do want to know. I prefer to be wrong than ignorant

Good point on the Critical mass

LMFAO!!!

http://www.fbi.gov/page2/feb04/law020604.htm
http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearin...ss_mylroie.htm
to start.

Dude, The FBI and the 911 Comission aren't the most reliable sources. They have their own self interests in mind. The 911 Comission okay'd the Patriot act and the FBI is never wrong.

Also the FBI said he masterminded the attack but it neglects to say he carried it out.

the 911 comission cites FBI information, still on Chompsky's side on this....

Does Chompsky tell you that it was an American Militia? I have to say I am taken back that someone whom tells others to read history books cannot fathom the fact that the World Trade Center was bombed in 1993 by Middle Eastern terrorists?
Here's some names to feed into google:
Abdul Rahman Yasin, Mahmud Abu Halima, Nidal Ayyad, Ahmad Ajaj, Muhammed Salameh.
I would hope that you do not read something and consider because someone famous says it, it's true?

This story is ten days old and did hit the headlines of the news.
The protestors were caught between an exchange of fire between the french and an armed gang of locals. This was the story of the french government and has been confirmed by independent journalists that were there.

Same shit happens already since 18 months in Iraq on a daily basis...

Chompsky is not Famous. At least not in Canada at any rate. I could have sworn I saw the Militia thing on CNN right after 9/11. I have an image of a truck that was parked in the basement and something to do with fertalizer that snuffed out the gas in the explosion. And I remember the association with the Militia.

And no, Chompsky doesn't even mention the WTC 1993m he states the first attack on US soild ever.

I'm a college teacher by the way, I read more history bookls by more people in a year than most read in a lifetime. I just fear I may have confused some facts, and I know and accept I'm not infallible.

I will look into it, I'm happy to get a different point of view and I will look into it, I don't want to be misinformed. But realize the FBI is not reliable, neither is CNN. I mentionned earlier Associated Press and Reuters banned many American Newpapers because they were editing the articles. Very Dangerous. That didn't even make the papers in the state did it?

On your side check out this site www.bookmarks.uk.com - Articles about these events from people outside North America who have no self interests

Also www.Commondreams.org - newpaper articles from all over the world are posted herre daily. Naomi Klien is a Canadian journalist with troumendous insight, she's one smart cookie.