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ADULT WEBMASTER SCHOOLS-bad for business?
This might hurt our business...more newbies: http://www.adultwebmasterschool.com
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Don't worry they couldn't teach a dog to sit!
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I read the article about that guy on salon.com. I think the reason he's trying to make money with adult webmaster school is because he wasn't cutting it as an adult webmaster.
I'm not a webmaster myself, but unless I'm mistaken, not too many of you guys are raking in the cash working "one hour a day." http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif ------------------ Hosts4Porn The Adult Web Hosting Resource |
If it looks too good to be true, it most likely is too good to be true.
I work this business for many hours every day for three years straight. I make a living and it is getting better and better. I went to school...but my learning began after graduation. This guy is a schmuck selling a product he knows nothing about. ------------------ Sin-Text-Because text sells sex. |
It's funny how all you jealous newbies don't know shit about who these people are. Have you ever fucking met them? Then how do you know what these guys are all about and how much they make? Have you seen their stats? Paychecks? Have you enrolled in their program? Maybe if you would concentrate on your work, and not assuming things about shit you don't know, you would get more than the 1 signup a month you're getting. See, I have no idea who you are, but it's really easy for me to say that you get 1 signup a week.
I hope AWS floods the market with newbies -- it will push you idiots out and good Webmasters in. Why you so jealous anyway? They are newbies -- are you newbies to? I know these guys, and I know their background. I have *personally seen* their stats and paychecks in real time and they are no joke. They make more money than you, me, and most people in this industry. "Work this business for many hours..." Hey Raven, learn some fucking English skills. You wanna know why you aren't getting signups? Cause your text links probably read: CLICH HEAR FOR LESBEANS LIKING EATCH OTHRS PUCIES. Killerelf, nice TGP. Where did you get the artwork, GeoCities clip art collection? GFY and stop doing traffic trades with yourself. See, it's really easy to bash people hiding behind this board. But until you know who these guys are and what these guys teach, I would shut the fuck up. Saying shit when you're so uninformed makes you both look like complete idiots. |
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brock strikes back. AWS is a brillant idea, and I wish them all the best.. I know that they are a bunch of sharp guys, I partied with em in Vegas, and was really impressed. Plus they let me cut in front of them in line for the players ball! Cool guys, and from a program stand point the idea is great. |
Teaching newbies not to post 30 pics with a banner would be a bad thing ? It seems its getting hot in the kitchen for some people. I wish them all the best with this school I wish it had been around 3 years ago.
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Brocklander:
My apologies. You're right. I should have researched these people before slamming them. In future, I will do that. ------------------ Sin-Text-Because text sells sex. |
Competition, Especially alot more newbies is always bad for business.
They might be good people but it's impossible to make alot of money working an hour a day because there are 1000 other guys who can do the same as you. [This message has been edited by julian (edited 07-26-2001).] |
Raven,
I wouldnt feel too bad... Im sure Id be right there with ya if I hadnt known these guys. But these guys are pretty smart guys and real sharp. |
i'm with brocklanders it is a good idea =P
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From what I have heard, the guys at AWS are successful TGP'ers and make their money through paid submissions and banner spots on the Hun. The top gallery listings are usually paid ones and I have seen some of their galleries (most of them are movie galleries) and they are pretty good. One of the guys even posted his stats on AWI a while ago and they were pretty impressive. |
Hiya, BoneProne...
I usually have better manners than this. It doesn't matter what my private thoughts might be...to state publicly that something or someone is a bad thing without my own investigation is bad, bad, bad...LOL.. I will immediately go to my husband and request he spank my naughty behind....:-) ------------------ Sin-Text-Because text sells sex. |
Hiya, BoneProne...
I usually have better manners than this. It doesn't matter what my private thoughts might be...to state publicly that something or someone is a bad thing without my own investigation is bad, bad, bad...LOL.. I will immediately go to my husband and request he spank my naughty behind....:-) ------------------ Sin-Text-Because text sells sex. |
They are succesful but they are liers.. You can't make alot working 1 hour a day. Maybe they don't consider making deals with other webmasters work(well it's not real work but it takes time)? If they are going to bring in 1000 more TGPers no TGPers would make alot of money....
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School or no school
it is almost a fact that 90% of the ppl quit after their first month ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 Got a Black site or category? Get a Black Dialer!! www.NoBSdialer.com |
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OK look...Suppose the major TGPs get 15 million uniques per day in total(since we know that 1 person can visit more then 1 TGP per day). Most of those people already signed up for a porn site so let's say 1 in 5000 sign up for someone's sponsor. Suppose there are 1000 webmasters(there are definetly more) submiting and each webmaster gets 40$/per signup. So there are 3000 signups per day comming from TGPs a total of
120,000$ per day paid out to TGPers (I think I'm going overboard here). So if there are 1000 gallery builders that's a a 120$/per day avarage and if you look on their site they promise earnings of 200$ per day. Suppose they bring in 1000 new people then the avarage earnings will drop to 50$/day/person. and I'm sure there are over 1000 people per day posting so the avarage is even lower.... Now this is just a rough estimate but I never rounded down I rounded up. If I have any errors here please correct me. [This message has been edited by julian (edited 07-26-2001).] [This message has been edited by julian (edited 07-26-2001).] |
Julian -
Your #'s are way off. Much more out there than you think! Same reason the "outer world" thinks the porn industry only makes a few billion a year. It cannot be recorded. These people are making much more than you think. |
Sorry for being so hot-tempered. Raven, apology accpeted, it takes a bigger man (or woman, lol) to admit his/her faults. Seriously though, everyone is quick to assume these guys don't know wtf they are doing. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. I just hate when people are quick to assume the worst. Get to know them and the program, then bash 'em if they deserve it. Or praise 'em for that matter. Look at it this way: if they teach their students how to build good galleries, then they will get listed. If you are worried about them squeezing you out, take the class, lol.
Bake, we have never met, but I know who you are and you are the man. Logan, I know who you are too, so you should tell these guys how much you make in this industry only working an hour a day. Post some stats for Christ's sake. Nm, they wouldn't believe it. I agree,I wish I had this kinda thing when I started. I had to go to Ynot, Pornresource and Tom's Newbie Booster. What I found was ok, but hadn't been updated since 1996. Not only did I have to assemble bits and pieces from 100 different newbie sites just to learn, I shit you not, one of the current tutorials at these free newbie sites said, "There's a new type of site called a TGP..." ROTFL! Again, sorry for going off... I wish these guys the best of luck... |
If these people actually teach you how to make money, it's worth it in my book.
Can anyone loan me $140? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif |
After further review.....
I'm in this for the money...I don't have a problem with newbies in this business.....I was one.... I don't have a problem with people coming up with a new way to make money.....in time, I'm sure I'll wish I thought of it first..:-) The reality is....if you work hard and smart..and be consistent..there's money to be made. Good money. We started with $8.00 a week. My education in this industry came from my partners who have been around for six years. I had excellent teachers, which saved me from many newbie mistakes. All the newbie boards in the world don't replace hands on teaching. If this school has a hands on approach and teaches folks how to get past that first year, then good for them. Maybe they'll be in Vegas, Boneprone...and, I can meet them in January.... ------------------ Sin-Text-Because text sells sex. |
I'm gonna signup for this thing and see what kinds of tips and tricks they have. I've been around a long time, and I never stop learning. This place may give me some new ideas to move in other directions.
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grimez,,
save your money,,,its for newbies as the it is very basic stuff that you already know,,, nothing in there can teach you what you know already,,, ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 Got a Black site or category? Get a Black Dialer!! www.NoBSdialer.com |
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My final numbers are accurate since there are more then 1000 gallery builders. Also the porn industry of course makes alot more then 120,000$/day but I think it's a pretty accurate number to describe the total money gallery builders make per day. Remember alot of it goes to TGP webmasters themselves and free hosts. Those people are not going to squeeze anyone out but they are going to be more or less the same as everyone. So each person will make less. [This message has been edited by julian (edited 07-27-2001).] |
I just can't help but think of the ol' saying...
"Those that can, DO. Those that can't TEACH." It is easier said than done in this biz, that is for sure, anyone can tell people what to do, and how to do it. The funny thing is, this information is available all over the net for free - just the time and effort to learn. I wish them all the luck! Toodles! |
Oh, and I don't think it will hurt business, like I said in my earlier post, anyone can tell you what to do and how to do it, but ONE hour a day?????? I dunno about that one, I think a lot of students are up for a loud awakening! People who want to work hard are going to be great webmasters - the rest will end up right where they should be http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif
K done now, Toodles PS - Brock r u the one and only from sexhound? If yes - HEY, its jules!! |
The thing is they are activly bringing newbies (former dot bombers) by advertising at fuckedcompany.com and such
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Well you beat me to it Ms Perfect!
Funny I know some very successful people in this industry, in all different segments of it -- sponsors, webmasters, etc -- I don't see any of the truly successful rushing out to sell their secrets, I see them guarding them just like they do their bank accounts. Not knocking anyone here tho, I think Carlton Sheets and Don LaPre are masterful businessmen.... |
I've been working/learning in this biz for 3 years and I'd have to say the worst temptation for me is starting new projects... If this program could cure me of spreading myself too thin then I think it's rather cheep. I have enough scripts and shit to last me a life time (that's why I stay away from Sears power tool section). But I have something the newbie doesn't, I'm use to working 18 hour days 6 days a week (I know I love my work http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif Any way.... I'll drop a message off here to let you know what I find out...
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hmmmm...
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Am I the only one who's tired of "(fill in the blank)?Is this bad for business" posts?
If you're not making money, it's not because of Adult Webmaster School, TGP's, Pic Posts, or even the newsgroups. It's because you just don't have a good idea for a site and are trying to get by on copying other people. Also, never believe any webmaster's bullshit about how much money he makes. If he says "I made $20K last month," he may be quoting the gross, not the net. He may even be (horrors!) lying. Okay, let's not say "lying"; let's say, er, exaggerating a little bit. ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World |
Pretty fucked up post... this is the shit Lens is talking about... slandering people you don't know shit about.
I too partied with these cats during the show. They seemed to definetly have their shit together. Oh yea... competition is the key to life... REMEMBER THAT SHIT! Adult webmastering isn't rocket science, it's just who wants to work the hardest/smartest! http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif SixNine |
OK I am sorry.....That I didn't get back to the board earlier.
Let pretend I posted this earlier. Dear Mr. Brock Landers, Yes my graphics came from the geocities clip art section. I guess that makes me a bad guy. But I needed some graphics to throw up until I get shit done. Now for the webmaster school. I really don't think that the SITE can teach a dog to sit. Not very many people anymore can teach a dog to sit. But anyways being my curious self I went ahead and signed up for the site. This thing was built for buttheads that don't know how to use a computer. Now I don't know what is really considered a "newbie". I personally am part of the new generation that has been ignored. I started using a computer when I was five. I was using DOS version 2.0 when most old fuckers were scared that the demons would eat them if they touched a computer. Now at the age of sixteen I got an E-mail. It said get your own adult site free. It was basically a mirror page for some piece of shit pay site. And I would get %50 of all sales. Now I must tell you that Spam was not illegal at this time. And being the brilliant fucker that I was I spammed EVERYTHING. After two months I got a check in the mail and my mother thought I was dealing drugs or some shit. So I knoed it off until about a year ago. And I am kicking myself for it because I would be the big as shit motherfucker that everone begs for some piece of shit traffic. Now I am twenty years old with a H.S. Degree and don't give a shit whether or not I go to college. I have a full time job that make me 30K a year. And I am still able to average one or two signups a day. Now if that makes me a newbie then oh well I don't give a shit. Oh and if these guys can teach a dog to sit then I am happy for them. But as far as the fundamentals to be any sort of webmaster. I don't think they existed on the site when I took a look. Now I have typed so much that I don't know what you said anymore. I must stress that I am not angry I am just trying to get my God given opinion out to the masses. And you can take my bad spelling and fuck yourself with it. My best subject has always been math, and I think spell checkers are a waste of time. I am done talking |
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No, it's true. I went to the adult webmaster school and two days later I was putting a down payment on a Mercedes S-class. With leather, too.
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Man, You should have waited more...
Seen Soul_Rebel's boat? Well..only a week in AWS!!! Seen Lensmans car? Two weeks and You buy it from him...No problem... I personally have been with AWS for a month or so and currently trying to purchase Microsoft but sick fucks just want too much...Although I dont give a shit...A week more and I buy it.. |
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No one gives up secrets, they just post their affiliat code, or their new converting program. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif |
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