Killerelf -- what is your username you signed up with at AWS? I'm gonna ask 'em if you are in fact a student, cause I don't believe for a second you signed up. I signed up there just to check it out, and I haven't see you in there. Plus Killerelf, why would *you* spend a whole 2 weeks of *your* income, lol? If I find that you aren't a member, I'm sorry, but you are going to look like the biggest idiot here.

Kimmy Kim -- It's funny how you need to watch what you say around here. I heard they were considering switching to CCBill for their referral program. Well, I'll just have to point them in this direction. Sorry babe, you probably just lost a lot of business due to your big mouth. Are you calling them an infomercial? I haven't seen you in there either. What's that...you aren't a member and have no fucking idea what they really teach in there? Hmmm...so you are just as bad as the other assholes in here... Go fuck yourself. Sign up, then criticize them.

Allow me to criticize you Kimmy Kim -- for anyone using CCBill, stop! I used to use them and when I switched over to iBill, not only did I see my signups increase 30%, my rebills increased to. Everything else stayed the same -- it was like night and day. I have no idea why, but I am guessing that surfers don't like entering their credit card in CCBill's ugly ass signup form that is as customizeable as a piece of dog shit. Hmm...I like that, gonna go post this to PornCity, Adult Webmaster Info, and a few others. Let's see how many people I can convert.

And in general, I don't see anyone bashing Ynot, Pornresource, Tom's Newbie Booster, etc? I wonder why? Are they bad for business? Because they don't get the publicity AWS is getting and they don't pose a threat to anyone? Paahhhleease!

Talk about pasting your referral code and such! All those other newbie sites generate revenue from advertising. And guess what, the companies with the biggest $$$, get the best spot. So really, what the other newbie boards are saying to their newbies is, "Welcome newbie...we suggest you use so and so sponsor or hosting company...they aren't the best, but they sure gave us a lot of money so we'll tell you they are the best!"

AWS doesn't do that -- they are totally unbiased and only recommend companies that they have personal experience with. In my opinion, the newbie is *saving* time and money by going with a sponsor that converts, rather than wasting time and money going to one of these other places and using a sponsor that is 1:5,000,000 (and uses CCBill as a billing company, lol).

OK smart ass. We used the screen name of angelfrog we don't remember what # we put after it if any. If you want the account number I can give you that too. Now if you want to call me a liar again I can just punch you in the nose. And as far as newbie sites the other ones don't make you pay.

Now I have earned the right to give constructive criticism so here it is::

AWS - In their resource section they have a list of some pretty cool programs and other things that well THE FUCKING LINKS WERE BROKEN. They have a page that is for submitting to TGP's. The list is way to incredibly short. And a couple of the links don't work there either. In the section that talks about the TGP's on the list they mention how much traffic each can send. The last time I checked Snakes World would not send 15 million uniques. I can go on and on about shit there but I think it is way to silly. I personally give the site 1 out of 5 stars.

Oh and Mr. Brokclanders go jerk off to Boogie Nights some more.

Angelfrog? HAHA! I asked them about you -- they said they usually didn't give refunds without a valid excuse, but did in your case since they knew you would be a high-cost support student. And that you kept on asking them to add things that were already in there...lol. Is your vision as bad as your Webmastering skills?

Look, at 1 or 2 singnups a day, I wouldn't say shit if I were you, especially since there are newbies in AWS not 3 weeks old making far more than that, ROTFL. Let me put that another way: You are criticizing them for something that works, yet you aren't doing nearly as well as half those students there. A little bit of hypocrisy don't you think?

BTW, they post to those 30 TGP's you criticize so much. I bet you are one of those pathetic Webmasters that spend their whole day submitting to every TGP on WayCool, only to be stoked when those 900 TGP's send you about 5 uniques combined a year. Anyone with common sense knows to maximize his/her time. Be efficient!

And yes, the other sites *do* make you pay by telling you to use sponsors that aren't the best. I would rather pay and get unbiased advice than not pay and succumb to advertising bullshit. Think about all the hosting and content costs you blow through when you aren't using the best converting sponsor! Or how much $$$ you waste when you want paid hosting and end up paying $10/GB because those other boards told you that was the cheapest (but they were paid to say that).

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Who the do you think you are buddy? Can YOU fucking read? Read my middle fucking finger. Your just pissed off because I showed you up again. And I will do it one last time then I am not going to even post on this subject anymore after this because it is a waste of my time. I don't need to defend myself at all because my 90k hits that I have gotten so far today are making me to happy to give a shit what you think. The fact that I work a full time job and every so often work on my galleries or my sites and get one or two signups a day is enough to make me happy for now. You want to talk about being efficent. What the fuck are you doing wasting your time going out of the way to try and bust my balls. Take a look at yourself. THINK! Thinking would be good for you. I started on the top of this post with a little comment about AWS. And I have been truthful ever since. I don't think you have read anything I have posted. I could call you a dog fucker and you would come back saying I called you a pig fucker. You assume to much. Like I said go jerk off to Burt Reynold some more. Stupid crack head

I am an AWS student and I guess you could consider me a "newbie adult webmaster."

This is not my first trek into the world of web design as I am experienced...just my first attempt at breaking into the adult market

I stumbled across the salon.com article about 2 1/2 weeks ago. I had been interested in starting up an adult web site for some time but had a few unanswered questions and it seemed as though the guys at AWS might be able to help.

Well help they did.

I began to submit my first galleries just a little over a week ago and had my first sale yesterday. Is this an overnight success story? LOL..not yet.

However I feel that with their help I do have an advantage over the next guy who decided just 3 weeks ago that he/she wanted to do this as well.

My first galleries were okay, but they were good enough to get accepted by Persian Kitty, The Hun AL4A as well as a number of others. I was seeing some serious unique numbers from these sites but in the beginning very few click throughs.

I asked for help on the AWS message boards as well as checked out other messages for help and read the advice given to those members and applied it to my galleries. My click throughs increased.

Still no conversions. So I tweaked a little bit more, and followed their message boards and learned a couple of more tricks and the click throughs increased until I got my first sale. I have never been so happy or proud of $35.00 in my life...lol.

These guys are interested in showing people how to do this with as little investment in time and money as possible but are clear at least in my mind that if you want more success you have to put more effort into it.

They have also been helpful in other areas I wasn't even considering.

I began hosting my galleries on my own paid host which was a virtual server that limited my bandwidth to 5 gigs a month with a fee of $12.00 per gig after that.

I never even considered the amount of traffic that these galleries would pull and because of a warning they posted to another member about his paid hosting I learned about what could have been an extremely costly mistake on my part.

So what was the solution after looking for hosting on the net that would be more cost efficient.

These guys hooked me up on a deal that would blow your minds. This deal to my knowledge is good only for the members of AWS and you would have to go through the guys there in order to get it.

Anyway. There is still alot left to learn and I plan on utilizing every source out there including boards like this one. These guys have just given me a hell of a good start in the right direction.

eros


[This message has been edited by eroswebmaster (edited 07-28-2001).]

GRIMEZ - did you signup yet ?
i did in the mid of june when i read about it on a chatboard (maybe it was here or on the pc board).
i couldnt find anything new there - just a few tips how to get traffic from tgps - so i quit and i felt like a dumb stupid newbie because i wasted $39.
but on the other hand these guy where smart enough not to rebill my cc, thats the only positive impression i´ve got, but maybe they have more useful content on their site now - who knows ?

tom

p.s. i still have the ibill cc transaction recipt to proof my stupidity http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/biggrin.gif

"! Or how much $$$ you waste when you want paid hosting and end up paying $10/GB because those other boards told you that was the cheapest (but they were paid to say that)."

$10/GB anyone still paying that much?
That was the rate 4 years ago..

I got in to this biz year ago when it was easy to the a big check in the end of the month, it's not that easy anymore so dudes that donät have it won't last long .. adult webmaster schools or not.

Just hang in there and it will pay off !! but it will take some work this days.

my6

You think it was easy year ago to make money?
I think it was easy 3 or 4 years ago.

Yeah your right i ment "years ago" i started back in 95 so i guess it's more than one year ago, it was easy when ie. elitecash converted on shit trafic and pay us overseas ones a week .. that was something.

my6



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50 adult webmaster school thread

LOL WTF? :1orglaugh

Things have changed since 2001

You can buy ebooks now how to be an adult webmaster

There's tons of resource sites

If you just don't have the time to learn, you can even outsource many sitebuilding and promotions tasks to webmasterlabor.com and adltousourcing and other sites.

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