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jennycards 02-07-2004 02:16 AM

I bought some traffic - Here are my Stats
 
Since end of Dec. 2003 I bought some traffic from several sources.
Traffic sources are sorted by an undisclosed "magic" quality figure calculated from all other figures.

Do you believe this is a legit base for buying traffic in the future? Any comments?

<IMG Src="http://www.calitera.com/gfy/trafficstats.gif">

Explanation:

1+ Clicks: Percentage of visitors clicking at least one of the links on my site

5+ Clicks: Percentage of visitors clicking at least five of the links on my site

Different IPs: Best would be 100% different IPs

N. American: Anything else than North American traffic does not convert for me. If possible I am always buying country filtered traffic.

Digipimp 02-07-2004 02:18 AM

Fuck all that post how many sales you made off of each and how much you made per click or something like that.

Most of us already know that most traffic brokers sell shit skimmed reject traffic that they've already skimmed all the sales off of.

jennycards 02-07-2004 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
Fuck all that post how many sales you made off of each and how much you made per click or something like that.

Most of us already know that most traffic brokers sell shit skimmed reject traffic that they've already skimmed all the sales off of.

1) Sales figures are not part of this publication. Sorry.

2) I believe my figures show that there are huge differences in the value of some traffic. Apparently not all brokers sell shit. But some do.

pussyluver 02-07-2004 02:25 AM

Jenny, How was the ROI? Got the google screw and will have to buy traffic to get things rolling again.

pussyluver 02-07-2004 02:26 AM

Doesn't have to be sales figures. Was it worth it to you?

CyberTraffic 02-07-2004 02:27 AM

That's interesting..

Digipimp 02-07-2004 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jennycards

1) Sales figures are not part of this publication. Sorry.

2) I believe my figures show that there are huge differences in the value of some traffic. Apparently not all brokers sell shit. But some do.

According to your stats they all sold you shit traffic. A high CTR doesn't do you a lot of good when it's not coming from N America. And Google and Sex.com aren't considered traffic brokers.

:thumbsup

pussyluver 02-07-2004 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp


According to your stats they all sold you shit traffic. A high CTR doesn't do you a lot of good when it's not coming from N America. And Google and Sex.com aren't considered traffic brokers.

:thumbsup

And the best place for good traffic?

Digipimp 02-07-2004 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pussyluver


And the best place for good traffic?

The best place is to make direct deals on your own, but that's not always easy to do. The next best thing is to be a pain in the ass and make sure you can verfiy what you are going to get from a traffic broker but that's not always easy.

So ultimately you can make a little money off anything if you know what you're getting ahead of time. Bookmarkers don't hurt, and boune the brokers traffic and fucking sell that shit yourself back to someone else. And be wary of converting good on a small order with a traffic broker so that you're suckered in for a big order only to get fucked.

jennycards 02-07-2004 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp


A high CTR doesn't do you a lot of good when it's not coming from N America.

Correct. But as you can see there are some sources with lots of U.S. traffic ... and some with lots of Chinese traffic.

By the way: I am not saying Chinese traffic is bad. It's just bad for me.

CyberTraffic 02-07-2004 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp


The best place is to make direct deals on your own, but that's not always easy to do. The next best thing is to be a pain in the ass and make sure you can verfiy what you are going to get from a traffic broker but that's not always easy.

So ultimately you can make a little money off anything if you know what you're getting ahead of time. Bookmarkers don't hurt, and boune the brokers traffic and fucking sell that shit yourself back to someone else. And be wary of converting good on a small order with a traffic broker so that you're suckered in for a big order only to get fucked.

I don't understand why companies (or people in general) consider customers who ask a lot of questions and request a verification or information on what they're getting a "pain in the ass".

If it were'nt for customers, those companies would'nt run. Plus, it's your right to feel comfortable before spending your hard-earned money.:2 cents:

Digipimp 02-07-2004 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jennycards


Correct. But as you can see there are some sources with lots of U.S. traffic ... and some with lots of Chinese traffic.

By the way: I am not saying Chinese traffic is bad. It's just bad for me.

Yes, and neither of them had over a 10% CTR. Like I said google and sex.com are not traffic brokers like the guys you see here selling traffic. You will get good CTR with them because you're not getting skimmed traffic from a broker.

Ultimately it's all about how much per k and how much you made off of it and none of this other stuff. Try sending it all to the same site, same tour from each different broker and spending the exact same dollar amount with each one and find out which one makes you the most money.

Digipimp 02-07-2004 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CyberTraffic

I don't understand why companies (or people in general) consider customers who ask a lot of questions and request a verification or information on what they're getting a "pain in the ass".

If it were'nt for customers, those companies would'nt run. Plus, it's your right to feel comfortable before spending your hard-earned money.:2 cents:

Yeah well you probably wouldn't buy if you knew what you were getting that's why. But even with shitty brokers you can still make a little money, it's all about knowing what you're getting from them ahead of time so that you can maximize it to work for you.

CyberTraffic 02-07-2004 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp


Yeah well you probably wouldn't buy if you knew what you were getting that's why. But even with shitty brokers you can still make a little money, it's all about knowing what you're getting from them ahead of time so that you can maximize it to work for you.

Good point. As a seller, how would you suggest for us to do that the best way possible?

I'm currently working on documentation to add to the site to help new buyers maximize the traffic they buy.

A lot of people think that when you purchase traffic, all you gotta do is wait for the money to roll in/trades to go up (whatever you're using the traffic for) - but there's much more to it than that.

SGS 02-07-2004 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CyberTraffic

Good point. As a seller, how would you suggest for us to do that the best way possible?

I'm currently working on documentation to add to the site to help new buyers maximize the traffic they buy.

A lot of people think that when you purchase traffic, all you gotta do is wait for the money to roll in/trades to go up (whatever you're using the traffic for) - but there's much more to it than that.

This is the secret :thumbsup

Trax 02-07-2004 05:20 AM

its interesting
nice

jennycards 02-07-2004 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
its interesting
nice

Thanx ... you are welcome :)

Kicker 02-07-2004 05:41 AM

Thanx a lot

cluck 02-07-2004 05:59 AM

most all traffic can be profitable. the best feature a broker can have(other than decent traffic) is good support. it's best to test a small amount then tweak your page to get the best bang for your buck. if it's not converting its good to be able to icq your broker so e can aprove your canges asap. it's your job to get te ctr up.

Sexzity 02-07-2004 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jennycards

1) Sales figures are not part of this publication. Sorry.

2) I believe my figures show that there are huge differences in the value of some traffic. Apparently not all brokers sell shit. But some do.

I would like to know what kind of traffic you brought from each broker.
To compair exit traffic from cj2 sites with target clicks from google addword, not seems fair to me.

If you have made sales with any of the trafficbrokers traffic it allso seems most fair to show that.

jennycards 02-07-2004 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cluck
most all traffic can be profitable. the best feature a broker can have(other than decent traffic) is good support. it's best to test a small amount then tweak your page to get the best bang for your buck. if it's not converting its good to be able to icq your broker so e can aprove your canges asap. it's your job to get te ctr up.
I agree 100%. So here is some feedback I got from hitsup.com, one of the poorest performers in my test:

Quote:

1) duplicate IP is common, and referer will always be paklab.com because it
is a traffic exchange, and when member visit websites, tehy essentialy go
from paklab.com. Duplicate IPs show that one member might be surfing for a
long time and during this surfing, your URL might have been shown more than
once.

2) The difference in stats could be due to many reasons. It depends what
kind of stat software you have on your server, and how the preferences are
setup to count visitors. Sometimes, it also happens if your website is slow.
For example, if your website does nto load in 10 seconds, your server may
not count that hit, but our software does, because we did show your website.
Make your own judgements.

Here is what I received from e-webtraffic.com:
Quote:

Im sorry to see that your site is not converting. Our other
clients seem to be with the same traffic we are sending you now. I hope you
have more success in the futur.
Not very helpful either.

Furious_Male 02-07-2004 07:50 AM

Thanks for posting this. Very good information. Maybe next time you can be persuaded to provide your ROI with each campaign :winkwink: and what type of site was promoted (4free, pps or just trying to build trades for a tgp).

Joshua 02-07-2004 07:52 AM

Pretty interesting..

some_idiot 02-07-2004 08:24 AM

How did you count Sexizty's hits? It says you're short almost 1500!
I buy semi-regularly from Carlos and have always received within
10 hits my amount. Were you made aware before tracking that
Sexzity hits come from serveral servers named and IP based?

ravo 02-07-2004 08:34 AM

Nice to see that we are on the top of your list, jennycards!

A ROI number would be nice to see, but I can understand your reluctance to provide one.

One thing that I caution all traffic buyers (and future buyers) of console (exit/popunder) traffic: In most cases, console traffic DOES NOT work when sent directly to a paysite tour. It needs to be scrubbed and filtered first. Console traffic will generate clickthrus, but it's up to you to "sell" it.

If you want traffic directly to your paysite, I always recommend clicked (preferably niched) traffic. If you're just feeding your TGP/CJ/toplist trading site, by all means console traffic is a good option, and probably most cost effective.

Our sites;
FPCTraffic for console traffic
FPCClicks for niche clicked traffic

Choker 02-07-2004 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jennycards
Since end of Dec. 2003 I bought some traffic from several sources.
Traffic sources are sorted by an undisclosed "magic" quality figure calculated from all other figures.

Do you believe this is a legit base for buying traffic in the future? Any comments?

<IMG Src="http://www.calitera.com/gfy/trafficstats.gif">

Explanation:

1+ Clicks: Percentage of visitors clicking at least one of the links on my site

5+ Clicks: Percentage of visitors clicking at least five of the links on my site

Different IPs: Best would be 100% different IPs

N. American: Anything else than North American traffic does not convert for me. If possible I am always buying country filtered traffic.

What is the url of the site this traffic was sent to?

Theo 02-07-2004 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cluck
most all traffic can be profitable.
yes, but only if the traffic is free.

I completely agree with what funkmaster posted on another thread. It's close to impossible to turn profitability from traffic purchased by common traffic brokers. (ppcs, tgp spots/hits and banner spots dont apply on this rule) Maybe for feeding a site is can work, but again there are alternatives that will work better for your money.

Rick Latona 02-07-2004 08:41 AM

You are missing www.cjtraffic.com on that list.

Sexzity 02-07-2004 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


What is the url of the site this traffic was sent to?

http://www.jennycards.com/?cs_setsou...7 64f4a7fded1

I still dont thing jennycards can compair Google addword with cj2 exit traffic, but jennycards, dont want to reply on that.

jennycards, did't buy US/CA traffic from Sexzity.

CyberTraffic 02-07-2004 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sexzity


/?cs_setsource=21&cs_setcheck=449ad5669567966c363a7 64f4a7fded1

I still dont thing jennycards can compair Google addword with cj2 exit traffic, but jennycards, dont want to reply on that.

jennycards, did't buy US/CA traffic from Sexzity.

I agree.

Choker 02-07-2004 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
You are missing www.cjtraffic.com on that list.
Yep missing me also. This page Jenny made up took a lot of effort, I know I did this a few times myself. I put a buyer review into my system a couple of months back, it has let me know what buyers think of my traffic. This is a tool every broker should implement IMO. Withour honest feedback you have no idea how productive the traffic you sell is.
http://chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/web.../tabs2.php?tt=
Click on the ratings and this is real reviews from buyers.

badmouse 02-07-2004 09:04 AM

You were STUPID to buy from hitsup.com... THAT'S AN AUTOSURFER!!

DTK 02-07-2004 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by badmouse
You were STUPID to buy from hitsup.com... THAT'S AN AUTOSURFER!!
Yeah, no shit.....only 2.7% from different IPs??? Hello???

Lykos 02-07-2004 09:18 AM

Interesting...But..any good sales?

Joshua 02-07-2004 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by badmouse
You were STUPID to buy from hitsup.com... THAT'S AN AUTOSURFER!!
Yah, I was thinkin the same thing. :1orglaugh

jennycards 02-07-2004 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sexzity


http://www.jennycards.com/?cs_setsou...7 64f4a7fded1

I still dont thing jennycards can compair Google addword with cj2 exit traffic, but jennycards, dont want to reply on that.

jennycards, did't buy US/CA traffic from Sexzity.

Well ... what I do is: I compare the success or result of 1 Dollar spent. I don't fucking care where the traffic comes from. It's a figure game.

I also provided raw figures, so feel free to make your own conslusions from it. Probably your conclusions will be different from mines.

From sexzity I bought regular "10k unfilted traffic: $2.0 per k" as promoted on their website.

jennycards 02-07-2004 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by badmouse
You were STUPID to buy from hitsup.com... THAT'S AN AUTOSURFER!!
For as little as $10 I KNOW now:
- certain traffic is shit
- certain traffic providers are morons

This is a bargain, isn't it :Graucho

pimplink 02-07-2004 09:53 AM

Can you show which stream actually resulted in sales and what the conversion ratio was?

pimplink 02-07-2004 09:54 AM

Maybe some people use it for trading tgp traffic...

Quote:

Originally posted by jennycards

For as little as $10 I KNOW now:
- certain traffic is shit
- certain traffic providers are morons

This is a bargain, isn't it :Graucho


jennycards 02-07-2004 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


Yep missing me also. This page Jenny made up took a lot of effort, I know I did this a few times myself. I put a buyer review into my system a couple of months back, it has let me know what buyers think of my traffic. This is a tool every broker should implement IMO. Withour honest feedback you have no idea how productive the traffic you sell is.
http://chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/web.../tabs2.php?tt=
Click on the ratings and this is real reviews from buyers.

Choker,

I used your listing to identify major players in this industry. Thank you very much for that.

Unfortunately some traffic brokers do not accept paysites. I believe this is also the case with your traffic, isn't it?


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