XBiz awards seriously were fucked up, with one exception.
 

GFY was the right choice.

All the other "winners": what the fuck? Politics... pure and simple.


Sorry if this pisses anyone off. If you were one of the "winners", don't take it personal. But the best in each category were NOT chosen (with the one mentioned exception) this year.

That doesn't mean I have something against the winners. I just think there were others in each category that should have won.



:2 cents:

i heard people at the round bar telling winners before the event

I was SO mad. I actually started making very loud comments. I could NOT believe who was being chosen. I am very disappointed in the judges. They obviously didn't make their choices based on who was actually the BEST in each category.

yeah, I was pretty pissed considering it was the night before the show..where was my bookie when I needed him?

That's the way it always works, all award shows are fake unless it's the actual people that get to vote and even then it can still end up screwed up, just look at our president.

Here are the judges:


Matt - PSW Billing
Chris - Paycom
Ron - hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Holly - Moss Consulting
Tina - VideoSecrets
Rainey - XXXCash
Norman - Matrix
Quentin - Top Bucks
Mike - Twin Dreams
MikeB - CECash
Aly - Python
Mandy - TabooRevenue
Tanja - Goodthinxxx
webmaster - Blue Design
BigB - CECash
Gary Kremen - Sex.com
Rocki - TrafficCashGold
Oystein - Mansion Productions
Raven - Sin-Text
Laurel - HustlerContent
Adrian - Auction Points
Steve - Deviant Cash
Nikko - Eurodialer
Dave - Platinum Bucks
Dokk - Dokk
Dravyk - allofem.com
Dave - Pimproll
Dave - Cyberage
Christian - Atlas Multimedia
Cynthia - AEBN
Michael - Sex Entertain

He only got a half million less votes than Gore, why shouldn't he have won? :1orglaugh

its all in the system for judging, hope ill be chosen as a winner next time

And here are the winners:

Best Affiliate Program
ARS

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Best Content Provider
VideoSecrets

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Best Billing Service
Epoch

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Best Web Host
Webair

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Best Design Service
Wylde Sites

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Most Innovative Product
StatsRemote

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People's Choice
GoFuckYourself


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Industry Achievement
Larry Flynt





Larry deserved to win, GFY deserved to win. In all other categories, there was a better alternative.

imho xbiz has done a helluva job since their startup, I've been very impressed.

I just went and took a look at their awards, nothing seems out of line to me except maybe Flynt's industry achievement.

in fact, everything that's come out of Helmy has been top notch since they started and they're damn nice guys, why the hate?

Such as?

Yeah Larry Flynt has been huge for the adult internet.

:1orglaugh

For example:

ARS over Lightspeed?

Epoch over CCBill?

Webair over National Net?




Gimme a break!

Does anyone have the full list of all nominees? If so, please post.

Epoch leaves chunks of ccbill in it's waste every morning, and ARS probably only does, oh, say, 500x the signups that LS does. Don't see how these are poor choices...

Apparently Larry Flynt gets different standards applied then everyone else... usually an ACACIA signer is subject to boycott and neverending bashing here.

I think Xbiz has done a fantastic job since day one as well.

As you might know, I was a judge this year - just as I was last year, and there is more...

MPA2 - Mansion Productions product was nominated not only last year, but this as well.

WE DID NOT WIN OUR CATEGORY.

All I can say is congratulations to StatsRemote for winning my category, and hope that I will be nominated next year too.

Three times is a charm, right?

:thumbsup

And stop all the bitching, bitches...

CCBill is so far ahead of Epoch in every way that it's not even funny. And how many signups a program does were not an issue.

Are you a lightspeed affiliate? Have you been inside and taken a look around?

This year's awards were based on personal relationships between the judges and the companies being judged, in my opinion. They were supposed to be based on who was the best in each category.

Usually the person who gets the most votes becomes president. :)

StatsRemote over MPA2 is another example of the wrong decision being made. IMHO

I see 2 or 3 judges who aren't fit to judge a kiddie talent contest.

Just because someone posts on the boards, pretending that they know what they're talking about, does not qualify them to judge others. How about ensuring that ALL of the judges are people who have actually accomplished something?

Another problem is that many of the judges represent companies who have strong aliances with some of the nominees, and others have grievances.

Taint!

that would be a tough play with 5 judges..
with 31, it would almost seem impossible.

not to change the subject, but..
how many times did you complain about the Electoral College system BEFORE the 2000 election?




Didn't think so.

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Donovan, in what way is CCBill ahead of Epoch? I can't think of anything off the top of my head but you're welcome to enlighten me. Regarding programs, if signups generated isn't an issue then what is? What makes LS better than ARS? They have to be pals with Donovan Phillips? That seems to be your criteria, that they've allowed you in to take a look around. Hell you can come and hang out here for an afternoon if that's what it takes ;)

I think you're basing your disappointment on your personal relationship with the companies that didn't win ;)

:thumbsup

And I thank you for that comment, but I will always still congratulate StatsRemote for the victory and honor XBiz for the award show.

I am also a personal friend of Helmy and is up until now the biggest looser of the award show history with two nominations and two losses.

The last presidential elections on the other hand......!!!! LMAO

:thumbsup

so it's based on wich one does the most signups? :eek7

CCBill is rock solid, consistent, and always innovative. How many posts do you see on here that say:

"Spam me with Epoch sponsors!"

???

Why do you think people want to be "spammed with CCBill sponsors"

???

Because CCBill is the best. Best admin tools. Best tracking of sales. Best at everything they do.


Lightspeed is a better affiliate program than ARS because Lightspeed offers better service to affiliates. Pure and simple.

Here are the nominees:

Best Affiliate Program:
- ARS (http://adultrevenueservice. com/)
- CECash (http://cecash. com/)
- AdultLounge (http://adultlounge. com/)
- Lightspeedcash (http://lightspeedcash. com/)

Best Content Provider:
- VideoSecrets (http://www.videosecrets. com/)
- Sexentertain (http://sexentertain. com/)
- Hustler Content (http://hustlercontent. com/)
- 1st Content (http://1stcontent. com/)

Best Billing Service:
- CCBill (http://ccbill. com/)
- Epoch Systems (http://epochsystems. com/)
- Goodthinxxcash (http://goodthinxx. com/)
- Netbilling (http://netbilling. com/)

Best Web Host:
- Webair (http://webair. com/)
- Jupiter Hosting (http://jupiterhosting. com/)
- ISPrime (http://www.isprime. com/)
- NationalNet (http://national-net. com/)

Best Design Service:
- Webinc (http://webinc. com/)
- Dickmans Design (http://dickmansdesign. com/)
- Blue Design Studios (http://bluedesignstudios. com/)
- Wyldesites (http://wyldesites. com/)

Most Innovative Product:
- AuctionPoints (http://auctionpoints. com/)
- hahahahahahahahahahahaha (http://hahahahahahahahahahahaha. com/)
- StatsRemote (http://www.statsremote. com/)
- MPA2 (http://www.mansionproductions. com/)

People's Choice:
- GFY
- Cybersocket (http://cybersocket. com/)
- XNations (http://xnations. com/)
- All Of 'Em (http://allofem. com/)

LS offers a healthplan, more or better sites? better promotional material? Do you do any shoots for LS?

if I remember right, it was Epoch who came out with cross sales, member plus, cancel plus, one clicks.. ccbill has recently integrated xsales but I don't think they have the other features incorporated yet and they don't have anything unique that Epoch doesn't have that I can recall. Also, Epoch stats imho are far superior and I KNOW the scrub rate isn't nearly as bad, you make FAR more $$ with Epoch.

Nothing against CCBill or LS, they're good guys, but I think you're way off base in your complaints here.

best built in shaving tools.:Graucho

So are you saying you don't use ccbill? So you don't really know what they offer?

I used CCBill for a year or so several years ago, I still get money coming in from them. I haven't looked at the stats area recently but I haven't heard of anything new or exciting.

I'm not complaining about losing to ARS. They are a great company. I've been inspired by some of their efforts myself.

I was damn proud to be nominated, and to receive a nice round of applause when our name was announced.

Congrats to the winners and thank you Xbiz for a good time!

Steve Lightspeed

Donovan, do you do much shooting for LS?

If you believe that you need to get yourself an education and move out of momma's house.

Just because Perfection Girls (allegedly) abused a great tool does not mean that tool is for shaving.

That tool makes it easy to take a recurring program and make it into a "pay per signup" program for affiliates that want PPS.

Example: I pay 50% recurring on Naked College Girls. But Choker wants PPS. So for Choker I can change him to 85% payout with zero rebills. Now all of a sudden Choker is paid $25.45 per sign up and I don't have to create a seperate sign up page for his traffic.

Cases like THAT are why such a tool was created. CCBill made it possible for affiliates to see when sponsors are abusing it.

Log in sometime. There are lots of "new and exciting" tools.