whohoo.. grade school insults!

yeah it's saying something good to even be nominated imho, no shame in losing to a company with the huge resources that ARS has.

Nope. Not at all. A few years ago I shot 2 girls for them. Richard turned down the next few girls I sent to him so I stopped submitting new models to him.

I think I'll stick with the more exciting bank deposit Epoch gives me ;)

Read the comment again. It says "IF you believe......"

I assume the program in your sig is yours. If so, I'd say that you would be making more exciting deposits if you used CCBill. As pointed out further up this page, there are a LOT of people that only use CCBill sponsors. I cannot recall a post where someone wants to be spammed wiith a list of Epoch sponsors.

That being that case, those bank deposits would likely be higher if you were using CCBill.

In my original post I stated:

"That doesn't mean I have something against the winners. I just think there were others in each category that should have won."

ARS is great. But there are better choices in their category. And in many of the other categories.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I've made substantial use of both programs and there was just no contest in the results. Maybe it would be different for someone else but Epoch just kicks CCbills ass on my sites. More initial joins and more methods for generating revenue from your existing members.

What are you smoking thinking that lightspeed should have been picked over ARS

That we will. :)


I'm outta here for the night. I promised my girlfriend I'd stop working by 7pm. That gives me 9 minutes. Just enough time to pee and lock up.

50 life is politics :glugglug

Quoted for those too lazy to read to the bottom of page 1 and wonder why I disappeared out of the thread. LOL.

Hear hear!

:thumbsup

Donovan,

I like your threads ! They are thought provoking , about the biz and intelligent !

need some charmin?

I don't see any problems with the winners at all.

We (and others in direct mode) were doing cancellation upsells and cross-sells 2 years ago with Netbilling and their stats smoke Verotel's, CCbill's, Ibill's, Epoch's and all others I have seen and used. You can also set your own scrub levels with Netbilling. They are the most flexible IMO.
Lightspeed, Sexentertain, & Cybersocket should have won as well.

Z

I'm surprised anyone even saw the Xbiz awards?
Not even insomniacs could stay awake through that crap.

I was a little surprised about the choice for most innovative, I thought Board Tracker had that covered.

However, the show was a lot better this year than last, That C2K place sucked, Hard Rock was pretty cool, I will return there to gamble sometime

Agreed.

It was actually very well done... and free drinks too!

Z

Did you look around and see amount of people there? It sucked?

And I KNOW that they had to postpone the awards because ARS people were at another dinner party.

Hehe. It sucked. Everyone left to go elsewhere.

Sorry our dinner ran long;-)

Awards are a no win situation. Althought I agree that ARS and EPOCH are clear winners. Can not imagine how National Net lost out to anyone. Nothing against web air, never used them.

Isprime is clearly top of the heap. If only people knew how many webhosts resell Isprime:1orglaugh

I'd say Lightspeed over ARS

Epoch & CCBill are very close.

And I wouldn't choose National Net if my life depended on it!

jDoG

KingK has herpes now (no shit - ask him!). So I know you have the hot tranny contacts! Is that what goes on at your parties?

Webair is great and National Net is as well. Have you ever used Netbilling Bradshaw?

Z

did we win anything?

I think anyone who won deserved to win.

Ars came out with BYOT (which has made lots of people rich), different types of promotion (Dating, Pills, Cams), tons of new sites monthly to promote, they are never late with a payout. Not many sponsors pay me 12hrs after the pay period ends.

They also have said they will fight to the death over the Acacia matter and will not settle (I believe LS shares the same opinion)

All the Xmas gifts I ordered using Reward points came ontime.

Please tell me another sponsor who offers what they do and has done as much this past year?

Interesting opinions, but seems ridiculous to argue about.

All of the categories had equal competitors. Look at GFY for two seconds and you will see that there are people who love CCbill, Epoch, Verotel, Lightspeed, ARS, etc etc... and as many people who hate 'em.

Seems redundant to keep arguing which is 'best'. XBiz is a contest, the results of a contest will never make EVERYONE happy, or else what would be the point? Someone's got to win.



:rasta

-Phil

Maybe not. But the show is still boring.

Well at least no one is denying that Wyldesites shouldn't have won for best designer...






















or does that need discussion too?

There goes Lightspeed again..........A Class Act, win or lose:thumbsup :thumbsup

Lickshots,

Mike is a great designer, and while we didn't win the award I give a big thumbs up to Mike :thumbsup

peace

Todd

You are right Baddog, The show was better organised , like the new location as well.The Entertainment was off the top.........what more can you ask for ??
Oh yeah the pictures:Graucho they should be up by sometime tuesday:thumbsup

wylde sites is top imo, everyone else looks cookie cutter.