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War may be Unavoidable:China
 
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CDSmith 11-21-2003 06:24 AM

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China will go to war if necessary, to keep Taiwan from gaining independence.
China needs to go fuck themselves where Taiwan is concerned.

OzMan84 11-21-2003 06:29 AM

Fuck China, and FUCK taiwan, coz they cant make good shoes anymore, and that really sucks:321GFY

BRISK 11-21-2003 06:38 AM

Messy situation

Ironhorse 11-21-2003 06:47 AM

This has been just a matter of time for the last 50+ years. Eventually there will be a showdown, if only brief.

basschick 11-21-2003 08:07 AM

china's technology may be the pits, but they have many times more people than we do. they can afford to throw away plenty more soldiers than we can. mightn't that be a factor?

BRISK 11-21-2003 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by basschick
china's technology may be the pits, but they have many times more people than we do. they can afford to throw away plenty more soldiers than we can. mightn't that be a factor?
China isn't talking about war with America.

stevo 11-21-2003 08:21 AM

But America has promised to protect Taiwan in the event of an attack. War with Taiwan = War with America, most likely...

CDSmith 11-21-2003 08:26 AM

With more than half the companies on the planet using or selling stock that is "made in Taiwan", it will be China vs the world.


Again, China needs to :321GFY

loverboy 11-21-2003 08:33 AM

China vs. US? you must be kidding.... US does not want another WW IV, China is one of the super powers you don't want to mess with.

Who says China does not make good shoes? Nike shoes in Asia is mostly manufactured in Taiwan... and i like my shoes. :thumbsup

BRISK 11-21-2003 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by stevo
But America has promised to protect Taiwan in the event of an attack. War with Taiwan = War with America, most likely...
I don't think so. America has the Taiwan Relations Act, but this act doesn't require the United States to take any action against China in the event of an attack.

Also, I doubt that America wants to step in the ring with China over an issue such as Taiwan's independence.

hyatla 11-21-2003 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
With more than half the companies on the planet using or selling stock that is "made in Taiwan", it will be China vs the world.


Again, China needs to :321GFY

It's America who really needs to :321GFY

Who is the world police now and force selling their own standards and value all over the world? Which country has Armies on almost every continent? Which government is really at war with any other nations?

Taiwan is part of China. America is the major reason that China wasn't united after second world war.

Tease 11-21-2003 10:47 AM

when will people learn jesus

human race is bound to be extinct in a couple of centuries

russian_agent_69 11-21-2003 10:51 AM

I hope my BP servers are in a bomb proof shelter.

Babaganoosh 11-21-2003 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by hyatla


It's America who really needs to :321GFY

Who is the world police now and force selling their own standards and value all over the world? Which country has Armies on almost every continent? Which government is really at war with any other nations?

Taiwan is part of China. America is the major reason that China wasn't united after second world war.

SOMEBODY has to babysit the rest of you morons.

hyatla 11-21-2003 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Tease
when will people learn jesus

human race is bound to be extinct in a couple of centuries

Some wise man said war is one of God's way to do population control. So maybe America's dear president is an angel?

SR 11-21-2003 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by loverboy
China vs. US? you must be kidding.... US does not want another WW IV, China is one of the super powers you don't want to mess with.

Who says China does not make good shoes? Nike shoes in Asia is mostly manufactured in Taiwan... and i like my shoes. :thumbsup

When did WWIII happen?

rooster 11-21-2003 10:56 AM

exactly. The funny thing about europeans is they refuse to acknowledge that if it werent for the war monger usa they would be either under nazi or commie rule.

Babaganoosh 11-21-2003 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
exactly. The funny thing about europeans is they refuse to acknowledge that if it werent for the war monger usa they would be either under nazi or commie rule.
Exactly...and it's trendy for Europeans to hate the USA.

goBigtime 11-21-2003 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Tease
when will people learn jesus

human race is bound to be extinct in a couple of centuries

Get a head start...

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NetRodent 11-21-2003 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by basschick
china's technology may be the pits, but they have many times more people than we do. they can afford to throw away plenty more soldiers than we can. mightn't that be a factor?
Lets hold a seance to contact the Douglas MacArthur's spirit. He had some pretty good ideas on ways to stop the Chinese hordes.

stocktrader23 11-21-2003 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by loverboy
China vs. US? you must be kidding.... US does not want another WW IV, China is one of the super powers you don't want to mess with.

Who says China does not make good shoes? Nike shoes in Asia is mostly manufactured in Taiwan... and i like my shoes. :thumbsup


Shit! You mean to tell me while I've been locked away in my room working on the computer I missed 2 World Wars?

FUCK ME!

ukxtra 11-21-2003 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by rooster
exactly. The funny thing about europeans is they refuse to acknowledge that if it werent for the war monger usa they would be either under nazi or commie rule.
Instead of a fuckwitted Texan alcoholic with control of a shitload of nuclear weapons? Fuck me! yeah, I feel much more secure now!!

Mr Pheer 11-21-2003 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by loverboy
China vs. US? you must be kidding.... US does not want another WW IV, China is one of the super powers you don't want to mess with.

Who says China does not make good shoes? Nike shoes in Asia is mostly manufactured in Taiwan... and i like my shoes. :thumbsup

I'm sure China feels the same about a war with us.

Did I sleep thru WWIII?

candidpublishinginc 11-21-2003 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
China needs to go fuck themselves where Taiwan is concerned.
Why should China go fuck themselves? From a historical standpoint Taiwan has always been a part of China.

Anyway when Taiwan reunifys with China, it will be a Special Administrative Region like Hong Kong and Macau so China's restricted freedoms won't apply there.

Oh and I've been to Hong Kong a few times, China has kept their word and left HK alone from both an economic and social standpoint.

Edit: Also the U.S. WILL NOT support Taiwan's independence. They have publicly stated this several times. They will not protect Taiwan either.

The most that the U.S. will do is sell weapons to Taiwan and act as a neutral party.

Adultnet 11-21-2003 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by stevo
But America has promised to protect Taiwan in the event of an attack. War with Taiwan = War with America, most likely...
Guys what are you talking about ? :) china will be owned if usa gets involved...

Why 11-21-2003 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK


I don't think so. America has the Taiwan Relations Act, but this act doesn't require the United States to take any action against China in the event of an attack.

Also, I doubt that America wants to step in the ring with China over an issue such as Taiwan's independence.

an educated one.

BVF 11-21-2003 03:43 PM

If Puerto Rico told the USA to fuck off because they didn't want to be a commonwealth anymore, would it be right for China to step in to defend Puerto Rico against the USA which OWNS Puerto Rico?

Praguer 11-21-2003 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by OzMan84
Fuck China, and FUCK taiwan, coz they cant make good shoes anymore, and that really sucks:321GFY
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Good one

hyatla 11-21-2003 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Adultnet


Guys what are you talking about ? :) china will be owned if usa gets involved...

Typical American thinking. Sadly Bush thinking, too.

Look at Korea, Vietnam and Iraq.

Go read some history, geography books, travel the world, talk to different people. The world isn't all white and black. America isn't the only country in the world.

Scootermuze 11-21-2003 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Adultnet


Guys what are you talking about ? :) china will be owned if usa gets involved...

That may have been the case a few years ago, but they've gone through some changes with their national security, military, yada yada...

If we butt heads with China now, it ain't gonna be pretty...

hyatla 11-21-2003 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by Scootermuze


That may have been the case a few years ago,

A few years ago? You mean in North Korea? :ak47:

Shoplifter 11-21-2003 04:24 PM

China will lose badly in any conventional invasion of Taiwan. The distance is just too great to support an invasion in the face of resistance. As well the Chinese military budget is far less than Japan's. Considering them a superpower is misguided. And if they should lose in an invasion it would destabilize party authority. The Chinese are a cautious people and they won't do this.

They may try some sort of blockade or some sort of unconventional conflict, but I doubt more.

BRISK 11-21-2003 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by Adultnet
china will be owned if usa gets involved...
I think you underestimate China and over estimate America's ability to "own" China.

China has roughly 50 times the military that Iraq does (or did), and 50 times the population of Iraq.

America has yet to fully "own" Iraq, what do you think the outcome would be if it had to fight Iraq another 49 times?

Oh yeah, and I forgot one small thing, China has nuclear weapons.

Jon 11-21-2003 06:03 PM

War with china is simple.. All you need is a few thousand grenades, and you'll kill off half their population.

BRISK 11-21-2003 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
War with china is simple.. All you need is a few thousand grenades, and you'll kill off half their population.
You are simple.

StuartD 11-21-2003 06:10 PM

Oh that'll be good... another situation for the United States to stick their nose in where it doesn't belong.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't live in either China or Taiwan, and I don't know the 100% complete and total truth about everything done, said and planned for either of them...

and until I do, it's NONE OF MY BUSINESS.

What the US really needs to do is just let a country sort out it's own problems itself.

Oh, and the crack about Europe being nazi and what ever... when one country is attacking another country or multiple countries or out right threatening to take over the continent... that's very different. That is no longer one country's business.
But when one country has a section or island that wants to separate, that's the one single country's problem to deal with.... no the United State's problem.

BigFish 11-21-2003 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK


I think you underestimate China and over estimate America's ability to "own" China.

China has roughly 50 times the military that Iraq does (or did), and 50 times the population of Iraq.

America has yet to fully "own" Iraq, what do you think the outcome would be if it had to fight Iraq another 49 times?

Oh yeah, and I forgot one small thing, China has nuclear weapons.

India has 45 times the population of IRAQ!! That means if we went to war with India, we would lose!! Africa has 100 times the population of IRAQ!! Going to war with Africa would equate to a sure loss!! :eek7

BigFish 11-21-2003 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
Oh that'll be good... another situation for the United States to stick their nose in where it doesn't belong.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't live in either China or Taiwan, and I don't know the 100% complete and total truth about everything done, said and planned for either of them...

and until I do, it's NONE OF MY BUSINESS.

What the US really needs to do is just let a country sort out it's own problems itself.

Oh, and the crack about Europe being nazi and what ever... when one country is attacking another country or multiple countries or out right threatening to take over the continent... that's very different. That is no longer one country's business.
But when one country has a section or island that wants to separate, that's the one single country's problem to deal with.... no the United State's problem.


So you're saying if North Korea attacked South Korea right at this moment, the U.S. should just sit back and relax, wait for "OTHER" countries to step up? That's smart!! Let me see.. the U.N. is there to solve the problem right? But who does the U.N. end up always calling? UNITED STATES!!!!!!! Dumbass.

BRISK 11-21-2003 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by BigFish


India has 45 times the population of IRAQ!! That means if we went to war with India, we would lose!! Africa has 100 times the population of IRAQ!! Going to war with Africa would equate to a sure loss!! :eek7

Notice how I said "50 times the military"? not just population.


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