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Resolute 07-23-2003 03:29 PM

IBILLS Webcast What did you think ?
 
What did you think ?

detoxed 07-23-2003 03:30 PM

They were not too enthusiastic when reading the questions

justsexxx 07-23-2003 03:31 PM

was okay IMO, but I didn't get one thing. WHat I understood from IBILL is that in stead of JOIN OUR SITE now button, you have to use IBILL logo/ccbill LOGO etc.(so clickable logo of ISPS to the joinpage)

But in the ccbill email it says, you don't have to change a thing...WHat's up with that?

Andre

MikeEP 07-23-2003 03:31 PM

came in like shit.....but still informative none the less. Hard to hear, but i think i got most of it.

socalcash 07-23-2003 03:31 PM

.85 is not too far from .1

interesting

Resolute 07-23-2003 03:31 PM

Highly controlled !! Would of liked to see " The Real" questions that would of been flooding in....

Do you think Ibills complyance dept will be able to process all the merchant changes by the 22nd of August - I think not !!

revbuddylove 07-23-2003 03:31 PM

can someone summerize? I tuned in a little late.

woodman 07-23-2003 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by socalcash
.85 is not too far from .1

interesting

What are the other processors numbers?

tony286 07-23-2003 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by revbuddylove
can someone summerize? I tuned in a little late.

You can replay it on the site

NetRodent 07-23-2003 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Resolute
Highly controlled !! Would of liked to see " The Real" questions that would of been flooding in....
The "real" questions were being read, one of mine was read and answered. The other two I asked later didn't seem to make it to them before the end of the webcast.

Resolute 07-23-2003 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by woodman


What are the other processors numbers?

Would be interesting to know

jennycards 07-23-2003 03:38 PM

To be honest: I can read myself. Don't need an iBill executive to do that for me. Very poor webcast for a publicly listed corporation.

iBill Communications 07-23-2003 03:39 PM

We'd like to thank you for taking the time to tune in. Unfortunately, were unable to answer all the questions that came in due to time constraints, and many good questions came in after we wrapped the webcast. We will give these questions our attention in the FAQ section of the website. This section of the site will be available tomorrow. The answers will appear in the MasterCard support section of our website.

iBill

NetRodent 07-23-2003 03:39 PM

Presentation Slides:
http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...ges/Slide1.gif
http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...ges/Slide2.gif
http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...ges/Slide3.gif
http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...ges/Slide4.gif
http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...ges/Slide5.gif
http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...ges/Slide6.gif
http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...ges/Slide7.gif
http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...ges/Slide8.gif
http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...ges/Slide9.gif
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http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...es/Slide11.gif
http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesho...es/Slide12.gif

A few other interesting links:
http://www.ibill.com/support/mastercard/matrix.cfm
http://www.ibill.com/support/mastercard/setup.cfm
http://www.ibill.com/support/mastercard/Portal.swf

quiet 07-23-2003 03:39 PM

i missed it. are they going to send out an email summary of exactly what needs to be done or do i have to watch it and take fucking notes?

NetRodent 07-23-2003 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by socalcash
.85 is not too far from .1

interesting

That's 0.85% and the MC rule is 1.0% by transactions or 2.5% by dollar value.

Resolute 07-23-2003 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iBill Communications
We'd like to thank you for taking the time to tune in. Unfortunately, were unable to answer all the questions that came in due to time constraints, and many good questions came in after we wrapped the webcast. We will give these questions our attention in the FAQ section of the website. This section of the site will be available tomorrow. The answers will appear in the MasterCard support section of our website.

iBill

Its good to see that Ibills communication with the webmaster is finally improving !! These webcasts need to be more frequent and not as orchestrated..

Probono 07-23-2003 03:43 PM

They did not answer my question as to whether refunds + chargeback need to be under 1% (What Epoch has stated)

if I used an IPSP and did rebilling I would be terrified that if the IPSP exceeds 1% for 2 months I would not be able to rebill for one year!


Your business is truely in their hands now.

Resolute 07-23-2003 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Probono
They did not answer my question as to whether refunds + chargeback need to be under 1% (What Epoch has stated)

if I used an IPSP and did rebilling I would be terrified that if the IPSP exceeds 1% for 2 months I would not be able to rebill for one year!


Your business is truely in their hands now.

I would think the questions they answered were probabelly written by them, prior to the webcast:1orglaugh

Dravyk 07-23-2003 03:49 PM

From this page: http://www.ibill.com/support/masterc.../mcCompFaq.cfm

"Client website can no longer contain any specific price points, client website can only contain a price teaser, such as ?as low as $19.95? "

... Say what???

Rich 07-23-2003 03:49 PM

Ibill has employees?

imageman 07-23-2003 03:50 PM

Fucking amazing waste of time, didnt answer any questions about chargebacks web 900 what these changes will do to cut down on charge backs.

Its all a fraud.

NetRodent 07-23-2003 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Probono
They did not answer my question as to whether refunds + chargeback need to be under 1% (What Epoch has stated)

if I used an IPSP and did rebilling I would be terrified that if the IPSP exceeds 1% for 2 months I would not be able to rebill for one year!


Your business is truely in their hands now.

I would assume that to be the case, I don't see why the rules would be different for iBill. The potential to lose rebilling for a year is very scary. I guess its time to do what MasterCard wants and get our own merchant account. Bleh!

NetRodent 07-23-2003 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dravyk
From this page: http://www.ibill.com/support/masterc.../mcCompFaq.cfm

"Client website can no longer contain any specific price points, client website can only contain a price teaser, such as ?as low as $19.95? "

... Say what???

We mention our price in a lot of our advertising, this could be a real killer. Maybe its time to open a series of site whose names are the prices: 10bucksporn.com, 30bucksporn.com and 50bucksporn.com

Resolute 07-23-2003 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent


We mention our price in a lot of our advertising, this could be a real killer. Maybe its time to open a series of site whose names are the prices: 10bucksporn.com, 30bucksporn.com and 50bucksporn.com

Go for it - not such a bad idea !

quiet 07-23-2003 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent


I would assume that to be the case, I don't see why the rules would be different for iBill. The potential to lose rebilling for a year is very scary. I guess its time to do what MasterCard wants and get our own merchant account. Bleh!

so it is cb + refunds? that really sucks.

does anyone know the overall % of mastercard vs visa use in purchasing adult subscriptions?

i'm also wondering about rebills - it says if you aren't compliant by the 22nd, that you can no longer accept mastercard signs. but it doesn't say your mc rebills will be canned.

and i just love the shopping cart thing. NOT.

woodman 07-23-2003 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


so it is cb + refunds? that really sucks.

does anyone know the overall % of mastercard vs visa use in purchasing adult subscriptions?

i'm also wondering about rebills - it says if you aren't compliant by the 22nd, that you can no longer accept mastercard signs. but it doesn't say your mc rebills will be canned.

my rep told me rebills are canned if you are not compliant.

shunga 07-23-2003 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dravyk
From this page: http://www.ibill.com/support/masterc.../mcCompFaq.cfm

"Client website can no longer contain any specific price points, client website can only contain a price teaser, such as ?as low as $19.95? "

... Say what???

I think it's meant to reinforce that:

"iBill must be accurately identified by itself and all of its suppliers as the merchant"

This is a concern:

"iBill must permit and facilitate the purchase of multiple products (whether from one or multiple suppliers) in a single transaction"

Does that mean if a surfer signs up to four sites, it appears as a single transaction on his card? Therefore if he charges back, all four sales are lost?

Resolute 07-23-2003 04:02 PM

The Ibill system requires, when signing up for membership for you to go through a shopping mall.

So when I go to eat at Marios Pizza, and whip out the MC will I be presented with a full shopping experience? Or will I just buy my italian food and go home?

I'm not sure I need to see a full blown selection of products from Sears, JC Penney, Outback, Ling's Chinese Food, Pet World, and Stop And Shop when I buy Italian food.

It also requires one extra click than CC bill that one extra click could cost them a signifient amount of money over a year..

woodman 07-23-2003 04:05 PM

doesn't it only require the consumer to go through the mall if the choose continue shopping? I thought he said if they check out they are taken right to the pay page.

??

quiet 07-23-2003 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shunga
This is a concern:

"iBill must permit and facilitate the purchase of multiple products (whether from one or multiple suppliers) in a single transaction"

Does that mean if a surfer signs up to four sites, it appears as a single transaction on his card? Therefore if he charges back, all four sales are lost?
excellent point!!

so if someone has a shit site that they also signup to (via this laughable shopcart), and the customer wants to cb that site, we would be included even though we have nothing to do with the second site - since both sites appear as a single lump charge?

jesus.

Resolute 07-23-2003 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by woodman
doesn't it only require the consumer to go through the mall if the choose continue shopping? I thought he said if they check out they are taken right to the pay page.

??

Did I miss this, can someone confirm this to be true..

HardProfits 07-23-2003 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


excellent point!!

so if someone has a shit site that they also signup to (via this laughable shopcart), and the customer wants to cb that site, we would be included even though we have nothing to do with the second site - since both sites appear as a single lump charge?

jesus.

These are all just issues that each and every IPSP must adhere to

iBill doesnt want this as much as you do

MasterCard wants it, and demands it to be so

quiet 07-23-2003 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Resolute


Did I miss this, can someone confirm this to be true..

i believe so. it says something like, 'would you like to continue shopping'

here is a run through of a purchase:

http://www.ibill.com/support/mastercard/Portal.swf

woodman 07-23-2003 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Resolute


Did I miss this, can someone confirm this to be true..

http://www.webcastgroup.com/slidesh...ages/Slide6.gif

This is where I got it. The checkout button takes you right to the pay page and from what was said the continue shopping option is just an option...does not look mandatory

quiet 07-23-2003 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardProfits


These are all just issues that each and every IPSP must adhere to

iBill doesnt want this as much as you do

MasterCard wants it, and demands it to be so

and? i think we all know this.

NetRodent 07-23-2003 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
does anyone know the overall % of mastercard vs visa use in purchasing adult subscriptions?
I've heard that overall usage (not just adult online) Mastercard is around 22%, Visa 70% and Discover/Amex/other is 8%.

quiet 07-23-2003 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent


I've heard that overall usage (not just adult online) Mastercard is around 22%, Visa 70% and Discover/Amex/other is 8%.

hmm

Resolute 07-23-2003 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


hmm

Really that huge !

HardProfits 07-23-2003 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent


I've heard that overall usage (not just adult online) Mastercard is around 22%, Visa 70% and Discover/Amex/other is 8%.

I will second that hmmm.


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