Feel free to contact Netbilling to get that merchant account started. There will be no shopping mall and you can surely specify your prices on your sites and advertising as well as display the Mastercard logo. Netbilling can handle all of your customer service, check processing and fraud scrubbing as well.

Interested?

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Thank you, Mitch Farber

Speak of the devil. I was just going to post that it was about time for Mitch to be making the rounds.

We may be in contact with you again shortly. There really seems to be less and less reason to use an IPSP these days.

Each processor was allowed to create a solution within a set of guidelines so they will not all be identical.

At this point I would think the solution to the problem is obvious.

Pre-qualify your traffic and send them to the best processor for a certain type of transaction.

Mastercard gains ground daily with US clients since it is now holds the rank of most new cards issued daily with the brand logo.

what the hell... so we aren't supposed to tell people the price of the memberships? doesnt telling the price HELP conversions & HELP reduce chargebacks, etc?

and why does ibill say this, but not ccbill?

Interesting I would of thought it was Visa

Exactly. Prequalify! Which is why iBill saying "client website can no longer contain any specific price points" seems a rather moronic and regressive requirement to demand.

Used to be until Citibank went MC after their contract with Visa was up.

Here I am: :-) Contact us whenver you are ready.

Kimmy is correct about Mastercard branding. They have made a huge martketing effort over the past few years and are gaining good market share.

Mitch

I count 12 different nicks in this thread, I am amazed that ibill still has that many clients ...

Viva Multi Bill - Muahaha

it is a 3 step join process .... ewww scary for conversions ... :(

You know, we've just had VISA demanding we identify ourselves more closely with our sites, now we have MC demanding - at least for IBill - we identify the IPSP with them. This whole thing is nothing but a recipe for confusion.

Is there an answer yet as to whether or not any subsequent memberships the surfer buys in his "shopping experience" are all on the same transaction?

Heck it sounds like a great deal to buy 10 different site memberships on one transaction and then charge them back all at once. May do it myself.

In fact a surfer who is in an erotic frenzy may just buy a few other memberships cos they sound good, only to be bitterly disappointed.

Or there is a good chance that they will remove you from the cart if they think they have found something better. Your hard work is now diluted. I had better get points on other cart sales.

Serious procedural issues if this is how it all works. Sounds like a real half assed situation.

You MUST be fucking joking.

It's all about identifying IBill as the merchant, if I understand it correctly.

If that's the case, then why not just list the prices and then put a big logo saying "you will be billed by Ibill"... say, like Globill does it?
That still tells the surfer up-front what to expect, gives him the information he needs, and gives Ibill their little moment in the spotlight.

Has to do with the shopping cart I think. You are entering a portal, where you can buy many things. A membership to your site is just one of them.

At the end of the day, the most impact here is in the post thru part of the system, not the shopping experience...

How so, KK?

That is a very good question. I spoke in detail to someone at iBill about this and they end up being multiple transactions not one transaction.

talking to netbilling is beginning to look more tempting.

well, that's good news indeed.

Thats a bit harsh:glugglug

I think most fair minded webmasters here will see Ibills webcast in a good light. They are now communicating better with us.

But I reckon Give Credit Where Credits Due....

Ibill now is on the right track . .

Right track? Ibill should buy a new train.

I've been with iBill since 98 but now I'm thinking about talking to netbilling as well! Crazy times.

Quiet, are you still planning on getting out in October?
If so, would going through the hassle of changing processors with so little time left *truly* make any difference?

Ibill is proactive here !!

Think their train of destiny is going to all the destinations I want
( All the ones that have $$$ and security)

Still room for more (Good) Passengers !!

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That is a very good question. I spoke in detail to someone at iBill about this and they end up being multiple transactions not one transaction.
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Unless they are the same dollar amount. If so it looks like a double billing issue. :thumbsup

i own suckysuckyfivedollar.com :thumbsup

:thumbsup

Yeah well they need some track too.

This has to be the worst implementation of a directive that I've ever seen.

What were they thinking? Was anyone thinking?

how cute the two of you..lol:1orglaugh

You didn't get the memo? The hatchets been buried. In someone else's back hopefully ;)

Maybe I've missed the clue entirely here but if the billing companies are now being forced into identifying themselves as the merchant isn't that changing the entire shape of the industry?

If the billing company is now the merchant in the eyes of MC - and potentially Visa somewhere down the track too - what happens if the billing company goes over the 1% limit?

The billing company has always been the merchant in the eyes of MC and Visa, they are the account holder.

If they go over the limits they are fined, nothing has changed with MC really except for this whacked out idea they have of brand identity and how to promote it. I'd imagine some of the non adult companies are screaming blood murder over all this since there are some of them affected as well.

Visa's now looking at everyone on an individual basis but having an IPSP in front of you when they are taking aim is still worth the money that you spend on it, imo.

LOL

Hi Quiet,

We will be happy to have you.

Things are very smooth on our side of the fence. It's all about control (and saving $$$ too).

Thank you, Mitch

Why?
The reliance on an IPSP seems to increase your liability at least two fold.

Naturally, you need to be concerned about your billing practices; however, you can control yourself (hopefully). Yet, with an IPSP, you are forced to consider the billing practices and tools of the IPSP itself.

In addition, you have to worry about the total volume the IPSP is doing, if larger clients begin to defect to their own merchant accounts etc. The IPSP could have complications with it's chargeback + refund ratio.

We all know you lose your rebills, reserve and maybe a few pay periods when a processor goes tits up, but you are also on the hook for potential affiliate sales.

However, how does this change your standing with Visa/MC ? How do they hold you the site-owner in regard to a failed processor?