Speaking of Atkins diet
 

I've seen to hit a plateau of sorts. I lost 20 pounds on the diet in about 5 weeks. But for the last 7-10 days, my weight has stayed steady..down or up no more than 1 or 2 pounds.

I keep my carbs under 28 grams a day. I'm TRYING to quit diet soda (bought the davinci syrups, which are nice with club soda..but PRICEY!).

I also workout daily (have my own elliptical that gives me a good workout). I've been VERY good at not cheating! Not even one piece of REAL chocolate since I started the diet. (Yes, I do munch on one or 2 of the atkin's bars or carbolite bars a day to keep me sane).

OTHER than reducing my carb intake a bit more, I don't know what to do. And I sure haven't reached my weight goal by any means. I know people hit plateau's in their diet's..and is this perhaps one that may take longer than 10 days to to end and the weight to start leaving again?

P.S. I eat fat free cheese because I do think there is something to say for not eating a bunch of fatty foods. Though Atkins seems to really endorse heavy cream etc. Any relevance here?

Any input (positive) or ideas appreciated!

dude. do a balanced diet.. not taking carbs fucks up your nutrition balance, thats why you lose weight...

not being fat is healthy, but the process of losing weight is not.. thats why you gotta do it carefully..

Yes, listen to Lane and ignore the Ph.D that spent his life studying it.

Also ignore the studies that say it works, and the lack of studies that say it's harmful.

And seriously - DO NOT eat fat free cheese. The whole point is that you need to eat fatty foods. Anything with "Fat free" or "Lite" on it is your enemy.

You need to eat fat on Atkins. I don't remember the specifics, but something about the ketosis state requires it. You can't do low fat and low carb at the same time. Well you can, but the effects won't be what you desire. Your body will go into conservation mode and start retaining fat because its thinks you're starving it.

I don't believe it has to be saturated or animal fats, authough alot of people on Atkins eat lots of both. Lots of rich fish like salmon and liberal use of olive oil would probably do it.

I know they warn about trans-fatty acids (hence why they advocate butter over margarine). I do eat a lot of salmon (hey, I'm in Seattle) and such. The only NON-fat thing I eat is the cheese..so it's not like I've gone over board on non fat stuff. Just the cheese. I'll try regular cheese next time I go grocery shopping.

I've tried this diet, and it does work wonders.
Have to remember to take vitamins when on this diet - to balance the nutrition.

As for your diet Centurion - everybody is different.
Check the amount of carbs in the fat-free cheese - it usually is much higher then the regular stuff.
And I think you need to limit your carbs intake to max at about 20 grams/day.

The diet does work - you just have to really stay on course with it.

Good luck!

As I said in my first post..I really just would like to hear from the people who are on the Atkins diet or are friendly-familiar with it.:)

So, don't bust my chops :Graucho with general comments about how bad Atkins is. Thanks!

I agree

Fucking up your body untill it goes into Ketosis cant be too good for you. (it doesnt take a PHD to know that)

Even Dr. Atkins agrees that stage of the diet isn?t a healthy permanent diet.

opps! not another word from me!

Ah ok, I misread your post, I thought you were trying for a complete lowfat diet plus no carbs. That would not be a pretty sight.. lol.

Backov is correct, you must have some fats in the diet or you're doing yourself a great disservice. Anything labled "low fat", "fat free" or "lite" is evil, leave it alone and use good old cheddar cheese or mozarella or colby or monty, whichever you like, just make sure it's the real deal.

That might be why you've hit the plateau. Try a few days of eating just as you're supposed to instead of subbing the low fat shit in. It might kick-start the weight loss again!

The 20 grams a day is for just the first 2 weeks..then you can raise is slowly. It almost appears I'm at a maintenance level at 28 grams..so will probably try moving it down to say 26 or so and see what happens.

And ya on the cheese..I know a lot of fat free stuff ironically has a lot more harmful ingredients in it.

I am currently on the Atkins Diet.
15 lbs. in 3 weeks so far, but more than the weight are the inches lost. Went a couple of sizes down in my pants alreay.
Minumum carbs, (says under 20, but the least you do, the more inches and weight loss). And no sugar. Nothing to drink aside from water...megga amounts of water. Sounds hard, but, shiiiiit, i have 4 eggs w/ bacon, all cooked w/ massive butter for breakfast, burgers and tuna for lunch and steaks every night for dinner. The key is to eat when you get tired/run down. And no caffine as the caffine produces insulin. You need to have the body at almost no carbs and sugars, allowing the body to eat the fat for energy.
((( Remembering Homer Simpson wraping a stick of butter with bacon strips, lol ...MMmmmmmmm, Baaaaaacon! Drooooool )))
Again, as little carbs and sugar as possible.....try zero on both.
Here is a good link:
http://www.atkinsfriends.com/carbcounter.shtml

Good journey!

Stop the fake chocolate, it screws up progress sometimes and the diet soda. Go as unprocessed as possible in your food choices. Also wouldnt hurt a couple of tablespoons of flax seed oil a day. The more EFA's you take in the more fat your body will release. Have lost 35 lbs myself plan to hit 100 lbs weight loss by Aug Internext.

agree w/ RSCLuke (above).
You have to take a good multi vit. or you will pass out from no energy :P

this is a bit off topic, but I would like some info on this diet... I have heard lots of people talk about it and with great results..

I was on a low carbs diet with Xenadrine and lost 33lbs in a month and a half, after my second bottle was gone I quit taking it... Since then, I have gained about 70-80 lbs and am hating life...

Thanks in advance for anyone who can get/give me the proper info I need!:thumbsup

Omg! Don't say that!:BangBang:
Don't tell me I have to give up my fake chocolate! If I do that, I think I'll go INSANE!:Hollering

Please, there must be an ATKINS voice of sanity out there that can tell me these Atkin bars are ok for you!????

(Though I must admit I'm still suspicious of their "net carb" claims..but I do understand where they get the number from!)

http://www.atkinsonline.com

All info is there, go look. :)

Centurion: I like the Atkins chocolates and Atkins bars, Endulge is the candy, Advantage is the snack/meal bars, they're fine for you and taste good too.:thumbsup

http://www.lowcarb.com/cgi-local/Sof...html?E+scstore

order Atkins chocolate bars, and almost everything on line :P

i grew up being lectured by many Ph.D's about nutirition all my life because i was an athlete.. and i do know quite a bit about the effects of unbalanced food intake since they reflect significantly on your performance if you have to burn over 5k calories per day..

thanks for trying to imply that i'm ignorant and on this subject

I am not saying dont eat them ever again, I am saying stop to break your stall. Those products do cause stalls and they are not meant to be eaten on a daily basis.Also to be that attached to chocolate should be examined if you want longterm success.

If you were a athlete you really arent one to speak on carbs because your body deals with carbs very differently than a person with a weight problem.

Didn't that Atkins guy just have a heart attack or something?


The best way to lose weight is to exercise more. Run, jog, bike or walk. And while you're out, get me a Big Mac and a Slurpee :Graucho

May God, Godess, Allah, & good fortune smile down upon you for what you just said!:)

Geezus..you really have a paranoid imagination. No where did I even come CLOSE to implying that you're IGNORANT on this subject. I just said I know there are nay sayers and I've heard THAT all before. I just wanted to hear from OTHERS ON THE DIET?


Is that REALLY being that unreasonable or insulting to you?

No, he slipped on ice outside his clinic and fractured his skull. He's in a coma right now, and I hope he pulls through.

Now get up off your ass and go get your own goddamn Big Mac and Slurpee.

I admit it..I'm a chocoholic!

I'm so ashamed.....:(

I'll take all the good fortune I can get, thanks!:thumbsup

*EDIT: I'm a chocaholic, too. No shame, no shame.:thumbsup

Sorry mate, but it's clear that you are. Read the book. Try and find some studies that say it's harmful in the long term. Equinox is correct, the first stage of the diet can be hard on the body, but it's only suppose to last 4-6 weeks.

Read the book. Don't just come in here and tell people they're stupid for doing this diet (which you did, you didn't even imply it.)

my post was in response to backov, not you..

1 FORTUNE COOKIE = 29 GRAMS OF CARBS

no bullshit

I never said it kills your or makes your life shorter.. There may not always be long term harms from this diet. But losing weight is not a healty process, and atkins makes is even worse.. Of course you need to burn fat but taking out other fuels that your body needs off your nutrition is not the healthiest way to do it..

Where did Equinox post?

Also where did i call anyone stupid? Can you point out please?

fuck atkins man.

the normal calorie intake for a man is 2000 a day

20 to 30 % of this should be fat.

that means 40 to 60 grams of fat per day.

lower your fat intake per day and you will lose weight.

start off at 60 grams of fat per day and when you feel your not losing any more weight go to 50 grams per day. ect

drop the fat intake 10 grams per whenevr your at a leveling off/not losing period

REMEMBER TO EXERCISE

be smart about what you eat and do research on which foods fill you up and are low in fat.

Eat small portions ALL DAY if you can

dont get bummed out if you go off one day, there are others and just exercise a little longer.

:321GFY THE FAT

Still curious about the atkins, now I've red the book.. but I don't remember anything about carbs and fibers.

I know that if you have a product that has 20 grams of carbs, and 15 of fibers, the amount you should count is 5. Right?

Now.. what if the product has 60grams of carbs, but 85 grams of fiber? It's -25? So If I eat a SHITLOAD of that crap, in theory I should be able to eat whatever I like?

clarify please.

What planet are you from? 2000 calories a day for a normal man? At 2000 calories most people would lose weight, a "normal" diet is one where you neither gain or lose weight.

The only time cutting fat causes weight loss is if by cutting the fat you also cut total calories (i.e. don't find another calorie source to replace the fat you cut, just cut the fat and still eat the same)

Try a 'break' day or two. Eat sensibly, but a bit more than you have been and differently. Then go back at it. Usually fools the body into thinking it doesn't need to be in famine mode.

1600 to 2800 calories is the scale
2000 isnt that low but I shoulda said 2200
sorry bout that
i was going by what I started out at


go to any nutrition website to get facts.

http://www.nutrition.gov/home/index.php3

that reminds me...I need to find that article my health teacher gave to the class, documenting all the inconsistencies and all the "facts" that atkins has...i have some idiot friends that are on it, promised I would give it to them

edit: Nov 2002 Vol 29/number 9
Center For Science in the Public Interest
Nutrition Action Health Letter
"The Truth about the Atkins Diet"
by Bonnie Liebman

god dammit