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x3m 04-08-2003 09:15 AM

ANOUNCEMNET: Movie Anti Hotlinking is Here!
 
AHL (AntiHotLinker) from http://www.antihotlinking.com/ is the only working solution to protect movies against hotlinking. There was no way to protect movies correctly until now. AHL (AntiHotLinker) is the ultimate solution everyone was asking for.
  • Protects all file types (default .asf .wmv .avi .mov .mpg .mpeg .rm)
  • Protects all your existing documents without any modifications required in these documents.
  • Does not require any special coding in your HTML documents.
  • Runs on Unix/Linux server at the Apache level with minimal server load and memory usage.
  • Supports unlimited number of domains (virtual hosts).
  • TGP compliant. Works with all known TGP scripts.
  • Gives full control of the hotlinking traffic. You can redirect it to you favorite destination.
You will make your investment back in no time by redirecting hotlinkers to your sponsors.

PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH - http://www.antihotlinking.com/


P.S. I will be glad to answer any of your questions here. Everyone is also welcome to contact us at [email protected] or ICQ 78198034

Seb From Holland 04-08-2003 09:32 AM

"PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH"

:Graucho

goBigtime 04-08-2003 09:46 AM

We have setup a demo gallery http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/gallery.html with a movie clip http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demo.mpg The time frame is set to 3 minutes. Please keep in mind that after you will visit the gallery where this movie is linked from, you will be able to download this movie in absolutely any way for 3 minutes.



What if the users have cookies disabled?

Will those users still be able to view movie files?

goBigtime 04-08-2003 09:49 AM

Ah I see... you use approved ref urls to create an entry to allow an IP for x mins.

x3m 04-08-2003 09:56 AM

No just ref URLs. The user is authorised to view movies when he hit the allowed document type, i.e. .html

Brujah 04-08-2003 10:01 AM

Is it an apache module ?

foe 04-08-2003 10:08 AM

Lol this is very simple to do wiht either php or .htaccess

nevermind 04-08-2003 10:26 AM

Kinda pricey at $249 ...

XXXWebhosting has hotlinking protection (and some copy protection) on wmv streams for a basic $50 virtual hosting account ...

So I think I'll stick with that.

x3m 04-08-2003 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
Is it an apache module ?
It is not an apache module. It is a C program running on apache level.

playa 04-08-2003 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe
Lol this is very simple to do wiht either php or .htaccess

HUH? please do share,, all the experts said its really hard

SGS 04-08-2003 10:38 AM

This program stops .mpg files being hotlinked?

x3m 04-08-2003 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS
This program stops .mpg files being hotlinked?
AHL protects all file types. And as compared to the "wmv streams" protection mentioned earlier, AHL protects streams and downloads. You can post your movies safely to TGPs. It's working perfectly with all TGP scrips including Brownie.

quiet 04-08-2003 10:47 AM

is it a per server license?

x3m 04-08-2003 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
is it a per server license?
Yes, it is. 1 (one) license for 1 (one) physical server, but you can protect an unlimited number of domains (virtual hosts) on that server. :)

goBigtime 04-08-2003 10:58 AM

Source code available?

I wouldn't put shit on my production servers that I didn't have source available for :(

tellmeyes 04-08-2003 11:02 AM

looks interesting
any positive comments from these who is already using?

x3m 04-08-2003 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tellmeyes
looks interesting
any positive comments from these who is already using?

On every page of http://www.antihotlinking.com/ :) and a lot more in my saved email exchanges and my ICQ history.

tellmeyes 04-08-2003 11:17 AM

Quote:

System Requirements
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Dedicated server with root access privileges.
FreeBSD or Linux operating system.
SunOS is not supported?

woj 04-08-2003 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe
Lol this is very simple to do wiht either php or .htaccess
Like Foe pointed out, it's quite simple to do. It's nowhere close to a $250 script.

5 minutes of my time, and here is something very similar:
try viewing it hotlinked: http://www.wojfun.com/mov/mov1.mpg

then go to the gallery and view it:
http://www.wojfun.com/movie.html

goBigtime 04-08-2003 11:28 AM

I'm sort of in zombie mode right now... so maybe thats why I'm not understanding how hotlinking protection for pics and movies (served from your gallery pages) would be any different?


For example....

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*yoursite.com
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*sitesIP
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*yourothersite.com
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*otherIP
RewriteRule .*[Jj][Pp][Gg]$|.*[Gg][Ii][Ff]$|.*[Mm][Pp][Gg]$
http://www.gofuckyourself.com [R,L]

or

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.yoursite.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://yoursite.com [NC]
RewriteRule .*[Jj][Pp][Gg]$|.*[Gg][Ii][Ff]$|.*[Mm][Pp][Gg]$
http://www.gofuckyourself.com [R,L]

woj 04-08-2003 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
I'm sort of in zombie mode right now... so maybe thats why I'm not understanding how hotlinking protection for pics and movies (served from your gallery pages) would be any different?
Pics are viewed with a browser, which sends referer info. Movies are viewed with a movie player which doesn't send referer info. And since most common hotlinking protection is based on referer (just checks if referer is your domain), normal referer based protection doesn't work on movies.

goBigtime 04-08-2003 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by woj


Pics are viewed with a browser, which sends referer info. Movies are viewed with a movie player which doesn't send referer info. And since most common hotlinking protection is based on referer (just checks if referer is your domain), normal referer based protection doesn't work on movies.

So why not keep your movies locked up in the browser?

quiet 04-08-2003 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
I'm sort of in zombie mode right now... so maybe thats why I'm not understanding how hotlinking protection for pics and movies (served from your gallery pages) would be any different?


For example....

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*yoursite.com
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*sitesIP
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*yourothersite.com
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*otherIP
RewriteRule .*[Jj][Pp][Gg]$|.*[Gg][Ii][Ff]$|.*[Mm][Pp][Gg]$
http://www.gofuckyourself.com [R,L]

or

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.yoursite.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://yoursite.com [NC]
RewriteRule .*[Jj][Pp][Gg]$|.*[Gg][Ii][Ff]$|.*[Mm][Pp][Gg]$
http://www.gofuckyourself.com [R,L]

wmp doesn't send a referer

goBigtime 04-08-2003 11:38 AM

Yeah I get it now.


When you hit the gallery page (or maybe when you request the movie) it will authrozie that IP for awhile to hotlink... providing the ip was first put in the db because the user came from an authrozied referring url.

Makes sense.

x3m 04-08-2003 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by woj


Like Foe pointed out, it's quite simple to do. It's nowhere close to a $250 script.

5 minutes of my time, and here is something very similar:
try viewing it hotlinked: http://www.wojfun.com/mov/mov1.mpg

then go to the gallery and view it:
http://www.wojfun.com/movie.html

That's where the fun begins. :)

Can you put it on unlimited domains (say 1000 virtual hosts) on your server and make sure it will hold the load?

I am not saying you can't, just wondering if you attempted it yet? :)

goBigtime 04-08-2003 11:43 AM

I guess he probably uses AddHandler directive to shoot all movie files requests through his software...



on a side note... isn't it funny how people always assume people are male? :1orglaugh Ok I'll hush up.

x3m 04-08-2003 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tellmeyes


SunOS is not supported?

Please get in touch with me and we will be able to do it for you. We have some questions about your setup before having AHL installed on SunOS.

Thank you.

muchmoreporn 04-08-2003 12:56 PM

I have purchased x3m script and it is doing the job perfect. ive been doing mpg galleries for 3 years now and dealt with hotlinkers for all them years, believe me its not that easy to stop hotlinkers, if it was so easy you think ppl would have bitched for years and you guys would of sold us the 5 min script for 250 bucks. i couldnt care less how long it took him to write this script i know for a fact it works extremly well, my bandwidth drop down by 50% thats 2k a month saving. this guy saved my ass.

A must have if your worried about being hotlinked.

x3m 04-09-2003 02:03 AM

Thank you, muchmoreporn. :)

mike503 04-09-2003 02:49 AM

if it's IP-based how does it handle AOL proxies and such, with the IPs changing constantly? i guess this method assumes that the IP will be the same for a couple minutes.

perhaps the request won't use AOL's oddball proxy network since it is a direct request from the media player. but just a thought.

x3m 04-09-2003 03:13 AM

mike503,

AHL is not just IP based. There are many other things taken into the algorithm.

As far as constantly changing AOL proxies... Obviously we are aware of this issue and we made a few things to ensure that AOL surfers will be treated correctly. Let me know if I really have to go into the details to explain how it works. :)

Muff 04-09-2003 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by x3m
mike503,

AHL is not just IP based. There are many other things taken into the algorithm.

As far as constantly changing AOL proxies... Obviously we are aware of this issue and we made a few things to ensure that AOL surfers will be treated correctly. Let me know if I really have to go into the details to explain how it works. :)

Please go into detail :) Sounds like a good product.

x3m 04-09-2003 04:44 AM

OK, let's go into some details :)

The idea of AHL is to make sure that the only way to watch movies is to request them from the page they are posted on in any way of form, such as

1. left click
2. right click + save target as
3. copy / paste into the new window
4. copy paste into the player
5. have it streamed using ActiveX

AND to prevent requesting movies in any other way or form that will allow downloading or playing the movie without visiting the document where this movie was intended to be played or downloaded from (hotlinking)

Another concern was to make this process independent from the user settings, such as hahahahahahahahahaha and Cookie On/OFF settings

back to AOL ...

There are many cases when there can be the IP change on the user's end. Not just with AOL proxies.

1. AOL proxies
2. Dial-up users who get disconnected while visiting your gallery page and reconnected with a different IP
3. User will deliberately put in a proxy server into his browser
and so on...

We have am algorithm that establishes a session with the user when there was a first hit to the protected domain. Depending on the way this hit was made, we tag this user as either a hotlinker or as a legitimate surfer. Further on, we monitor all his activity to make sure that if he arrived as a legitimate user, all his consecutive steps are recorder and his session parameters are upgraded to maintain this status.

If there is an event when a legitimate user with all the parameters, but the IP is detected, we add the new IP to his session and upgrade his session with the new parameters.

I hope this answers the question and gives you more details how AHL works. :)

SR 04-09-2003 04:47 AM

I find it pretty much money for the script.
A friend of me has setup something similar.
Works with session ideas or so I believe.
I dunno all the details but the protection works 100% and he said it was quite easy to build.

x3m 04-09-2003 05:21 AM

As far as money...

We have been developing and testing AHL for the last 3+ months. Not to mention that we pay for ads on GFY and other places. We believe the price is fair.

All, I repeat, ALL our customers report great savings on bandwidth with AHL.

Remember, it does not only save your bandwidth, it also allows you to redirect hotlinkers to dialers, "for free sponsors" and even TGPs to increase trades and build bookmarkers. One client of ours makes $100+ per day just from that on his 50-70 mbps server. I will ask him if I can post his response from my ICQ history and will post it here later.


As far as "quite easy to build"

I am not saying it's impossible - we did it - some people can do it too. :) Somehow, I did not find such a script in the last two years that I post movies and had to hire a programmer to do it. The idea to sell it came in when I saw how great AHL works for me.

So, if you can get it from your friend - get it. If it's worth your time and money - hire someone to do it for you and then test it on your own traffic to find all the bugs. If you want to PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH :) and REDIRECT HOTLINKERS TO SPONSORS today - get AHL :)

jollyperv 04-09-2003 05:29 AM

I better get this shit before it costs 3 grand :)

justsexxx 04-09-2003 05:30 AM

I used it and it is good....Funny thing is hotlinkers do think they can hotlink you because them have hit the HTML once....They post the direct links to mpg:)

My first week I had

Hotlink Movie Requests: 525925

So pretty much huh:)

Andre

justsexxx 04-09-2003 05:31 AM

OH BTW, my host offers php protection as well, and it worked great, but only problem is/was that Brownie didn't accept the gallery because no cookie could be set to it...

Andre

funkmaster 04-09-2003 05:42 AM

"I find it pretty much money for the script. "

... without having it tested myself, if itīs working itīs a good price, in fact itīs cheap ... to bad weīve spent much more money on getting the ISAPI modul modified ... damn it !!

playa 04-09-2003 05:58 AM

i like to hear some more testimonials


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