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Grapesoda 01-17-2014 07:25 AM

bennifits of obama care
 
let's see..... my premiums went from $398 to $475, (not bad) the deductible went from $2500 to $5000 and the price of one of my prescription went from $20 to $85.46

iSpyCams 01-17-2014 07:48 AM

Well, just think of all the time you'll save now that you don't have to worry about how to spend that extra money!

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 19947846)
Well, just think of all the time you'll save now that you don't have to worry about how to spend that extra money!

yeah I guess I'll have to forget about that crack cocaine hobby I always wanted :(

Minte 01-17-2014 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947818)
let's see..... my premiums went from $398 to $475, (not bad) the deductible went from $2500 to $5000 and the price of one of my prescription went from $20 to $85.46

And from what I am reading this is actually a success story compared to a lot of people. :thumbsup

crockett 01-17-2014 08:09 AM

Don't pick the lowest plan..they have the highest deductible..to get a $5k deductible you are likely picking the bronze plan.. I do find it funny that it's always people whom are complainers of Obamacare that always have the higher prices.. Go figure.

arock10 01-17-2014 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947818)
let's see..... my premiums went from $398 to $475, (not bad) the deductible went from $2500 to $5000 and the price of one of my prescription went from $20 to $85.46

Good, it is supposed to go up. You are subsidizing people that make less money so they can afford health insurance. My gf thanks you as her subsidy is around $60 a month

Personally mine went up $25, but I've gone from catastrophic to a silver plan

ps: health insurance is going up with or without obamacare

dyna mo 01-17-2014 08:13 AM

I'm finally insured! Although I haven't tested that yet, doctor appt upcoming.

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19947868)
Don't pick the lowest plan..they have the highest deductible..to get a $5k deductible you are likely picking the bronze plan.. I do find it funny that it's always people whom are complainers of Obamacare that always have the higher prices.. Go figure.

dear moron: I got as close as I could to what I had... would have been another $250 a month or MORE to get the exact same plan... since I have a job, and earn an income, nothing is given to me . no discounts or anything. try and get a clue :thumbsup

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19947869)
Good, it is supposed to go up. You are subsidizing people that make less money so they can afford health insurance. My gf thanks you as her subsidy is around $60 a month

Personally mine went up $25, but I've gone from catastrophic to a silver plan

ps: health insurance is going up with or without obamacare

so I guess the 40K+ I pay in taxes a year was just a waste of money :( she's YOUR GF, not MINE, why don't YOU pay her health ins? at what point do I stop being punished for hard work?

arock10 01-17-2014 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947875)
so I guess the 40K+ I pay in taxes a year was just a waste of money :( she's YOUR GF, not MINE, why don't YOU pay her health ins?

because my 40k+ in taxes a year pays for other people's gfs ;)

Anyway, I'd rather have it going to healthcare then tanks

Minte 01-17-2014 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947875)
so I guess the 40K+ I pay in taxes a year was just a waste of money :( she's YOUR GF, not MINE, why don't YOU pay her health ins? at what point do I stop being punished for hard work?

It's better that you pay for it. I am sure they appreciate your generosity. :thumbsup

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19947880)
It's better that you pay for it. I am sure they appreciate your generosity. :thumbsup

pretty sure they don't. look how they live in complete garbage. no respect for anything

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19947876)
because my 40k+ in taxes a year pays for other people's gfs ;)

Anyway, I'd rather have it going to healthcare then tanks

yes because when the Russians and Chinese take over America or the drug cartels everything will be awesome. you'll be able to make a great living off porn and say ANYTHING you want in public forums :thumbsup

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19947876)
because my 40k+ in taxes a year pays for other people's gfs ;)

Anyway, I'd rather have it going to healthcare then tanks

btw if you went from catastrophic to a plan for $25 you're not earning either I guess

Minte 01-17-2014 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947891)
yes because when the Russians and Chinese take over America or the drug cartels everything will be awesome. you'll be able to make a great living off porn and say ANYTHING you want in public forums :thumbsup

Mankind does have that war thing going on pretty much constantly. But it's a good thing to dream about Peace On Earth.,

SuckOnThis 01-17-2014 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947891)
yes because when the Russians and Chinese take over America or the drug cartels everything will be awesome. you'll be able to make a great living off porn and say ANYTHING you want in public forums :thumbsup

I thought you hillbillies with your muskets would protect us from such a thing. :1orglaugh

dyna mo 01-17-2014 08:43 AM

thread got weird(er).

L-Pink 01-17-2014 08:56 AM

What percent of Americans have signed up so far?

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19947911)
I thought you hillbillies with your muskets would protect us from such a thing. :1orglaugh

so you're on welfare too?

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19947936)
What percent of Americans have signed up so far?

beasts me... I only think about Obama care when I get stuck with another bill myself

iSpyCams 01-17-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947857)
yeah I guess I'll have to forget about that crack cocaine hobby I always wanted :(

Sounds like a health benefit to me!

Wizzo 01-17-2014 09:01 AM

So mine went from $525 or so to $1100 with Aetna for me and my 2girls. We've never spent anywhere close to $13K in a year for healthcare. So I decided to switch to another company that is only $629 but the plan won't start until Feb1st, so we actually are uninsured this month for first time.

I will say its a brilliant plan between government and the insurance companies to funnel billions upon billions of public money to private companies in the form of subsidies. To bad I didn't come up with that plan.

arock10 01-17-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947891)
yes because when the Russians and Chinese take over America or the drug cartels everything will be awesome. you'll be able to make a great living off porn and say ANYTHING you want in public forums :thumbsup

Not sure what you mean here

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 19947947)
So mine went from $525 or so to $1100 with Aetna for me and my 2girls. We've never spent anywhere close to $13K in a year for healthcare. So I decided to switch to another company that is only $629 but the plan won't start until Feb1st, so we actually are uninsured this month for first time.

I will say its a brilliant plan between government and the insurance companies to funnel billions upon billions of public money to private companies in the form of subsidies. To bad I didn't come up with that plan.

there's another aspect of Obama care that's not being mentioned too much... there is a bailout fund for any insurance agencies that lose money providing the insurance... this will be pretty interesting when that money starts getting passed out... don't you just hate being punished for being dumb enough to work and support your family? :2 cents:

SuckOnThis 01-17-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947937)
so you're on welfare too?

Yes, because every non-hillbilly that doesnt have a musket gets free money from the govt.

arock10 01-17-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947894)
btw if you went from catastrophic to a plan for $25 you're not earning either I guess

$25 more lol. Went from $175 to $200

She received hers for $180-190 (silver plan again with dental) and then gets a $60 subsidy subtracted from that. Earning ~$25k a year, working part time while going to college part time

Sorry you are old and live in a more expensive state ;)

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19947951)
Not sure what you mean here

so your thinking is the Russians and the Chinese and the Islamic Republic of Iran don't take over America because they are just pretty cool laid back dudes, unh? go back to smoking weed my man :2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19947953)
Yes, because every non-hillbilly that doesnt have a musket gets free money from the govt.

must be nice :thumbsup

arock10 01-17-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 19947947)
So mine went from $525 or so to $1100 with Aetna for me and my 2girls. We've never spent anywhere close to $13K in a year for healthcare. So I decided to switch to another company that is only $629 but the plan won't start until Feb1st, so we actually are uninsured this month for first time.

I will say its a brilliant plan between government and the insurance companies to funnel billions upon billions of public money to private companies in the form of subsidies. To bad I didn't come up with that plan.

This was the original conservative plan. I'm all for scrapping it, having basic free healthcare for all paid for by a tax and then allowing people to buy additional premium private insurance. You know, like most of the rest of the world

arock10 01-17-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19947957)
so your thinking is the Russians and the Chinese and the Islamic Republic of Iran don't take over America because they are just pretty cool laid back dudes, unh? go back to smoking weed my man :2 cents:

Ah ok the tank comment. Pretty sure tanks just sit in a warehouse these days. Drones ftw

Minte 01-17-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19947962)
This was the original conservative plan. I'm all for scrapping it, having basic free healthcare for all paid for by a tax and then allowing people to buy additional premium private insurance. You know, like most of the rest of the world

Conservative plan...right.

Just as a reminder. From 2008-2010 democrats/liberals had control. Why didn't they do basic free healthcare. Like the rest of the world.

Rather they put this pile of garbage in place without even reading the law.

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19947962)
This was the original conservative plan. I'm all for scrapping it, having basic free healthcare for all paid for by a tax and then allowing people to buy additional premium private insurance. You know, like most of the rest of the world

interesting concept...

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19947964)
Ah ok the tank comment. Pretty sure tanks just sit in a warehouse these days. Drones ftw

hopefully the tanks will stay in the ware house and not be needed :2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-17-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19947986)
Conservative plan...right.

Just as a reminder. From 2008-2010 democrats/liberals had control. Why didn't they do basic free healthcare. Like the rest of the world.

Rather they put this pile of garbage in place without even reading the law.

look Minte, you work for a living... you have no rights

arock10 01-17-2014 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19947986)
Conservative plan...right.

Just as a reminder. From 2008-2010 democrats/liberals had control. Why didn't they do basic free healthcare. Like the rest of the world.

Rather they put this pile of garbage in place without even reading the law.

Democracy is a bitch (or lack of)?? But no idea. Get rid of citizens united maybe?

Vendzilla 01-17-2014 09:43 AM

Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-plan-keep-it/

I'm lucky I guess, I live near a VA hospital and use them now, total cost last year was $260 for me. I can get on my Fiance's medical next year when we get married for nothing because her employer covers everything.

My best friend has had his insurance more than double for himself and his daughter with a large deductible.

As everyone knows, I have been against this since the beginning and I was right till someone proves me wrong. No one has proved me wrong, the only proof anyone has had that it's going to be a good thing was based on lies given out by the Obama Administration.

Relentless 01-17-2014 09:45 AM

People who had insurance are paying more and get only two benefits. 1 the caps on total out of pocket expense are much lower than they had been (chance of being bankrupted by medical costs is down quite a bit), and 2 a friend or relative you know is now getting to go to the doctor unlike before...

The ONLY system that ever made sense is single payer basic and private supplemental insurance. This is the first incremental step toward that eventuality. How fast we get there is the real question.

dyna mo 01-17-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19948010)
it's going to be a good thing was based on lies given out by the Obama Administration.

It's good for me. YAY me!

arock10 01-17-2014 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19948010)
Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-plan-keep-it/

I'm lucky I guess, I live near a VA hospital and use them now, total cost last year was $260 for me. I can get on my Fiance's medical next year when we get married for nothing because her employer covers everything.

My best friend has had his insurance more than double for himself and his daughter with a large deductible.

As everyone knows, I have been against this since the beginning and I was right till someone proves me wrong. No one has proved me wrong, the only proof anyone has had that it's going to be a good thing was based on lies given out by the Obama Administration.

Wait wait wait you are saying you are lucky because you are getting healthcare.... Provided by the government???

Also the VA is one of the biggest clusterfucks there is. Something doesn't make sense here... Anti brand new healthcare program but you like the VA?

Tom_PM 01-17-2014 11:23 AM

30 million of your fellow countrymen that could not get insurance before can now.

The government won't say it, so I will.

THANK YOU for your contribution to the health of your country. Maybe it'll seem worth it in time.


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