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Rochard 03-22-2013 08:26 AM

Question for Marines
 
Recently someone a new friend has entered my social group who claims he is a former US Marine. He tells us he's served three tours of combat duty, and was in Recon. However, when I asked him what his MOS was he couldn't give me a number.... Seems like half of the former Marines I know claim they were in Recon. So I started to question him further he didn't seem to understand the difference between a PI Marine and a Hollywood Marine....

Am I right to be suspicious here? I mean, every Marine knows their MOS (0352, 8513) and every Marine knows the difference between PI and Hollywood, right?

What other questions can I ask him about the Marines that would verify my guess?

_Richard_ 03-22-2013 08:27 AM

can't you just call the office and ask to speak with the soldier? they should tell you he's been discharged

Sid70 03-22-2013 08:28 AM

Isn't it your past? Let it rest. I don't question people much about their math diploma numbers or campus details, ffs, i dont even hang out with those idiots at all, why do you care? Leave that shit in the past.

TrashyGirl 03-22-2013 08:30 AM

ask him if he is an ex Marine

http://www.military.com/marine-corps...exmarines.html

dyna mo 03-22-2013 08:34 AM

what was your job in the marines?

Rochard 03-22-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 19540624)
Isn't it your past? Let it rest.

If I caught one of my friends spinning tall tales about going to college when they didn't, they wouldn't be my friend much longer.

As a former Marine, nothing pisses me off more than lying about being a Marine.

Grapesoda 03-22-2013 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19540612)
Recently someone a new friend has entered my social group who claims he is a former US Marine. He tells us he's served three tours of combat duty, and was in Recon. However, when I asked him what his MOS was he couldn't give me a number.... Seems like half of the former Marines I know claim they were in Recon. So I started to question him further he didn't seem to understand the difference between a PI Marine and a Hollywood Marine....

Am I right to be suspicious here? I mean, every Marine knows their MOS (0352, 8513) and every Marine knows the difference between PI and Hollywood, right?

What other questions can I ask him about the Marines that would verify my guess?

a boy around the valley tells people he was in seal team 6... I worked with a gaffer that was on seal team 6 once... you could see it in him... didn't really talk about it... another guy I used to know was a seal, he told me a few things... mainly they would train all the time so each guy knew the guys job and for work they usually went to down to south America and kidnapped people... this guy now rips off dealers with a gun, at their location...

Grapesoda 03-22-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19540651)
If I caught one of my friends spinning tall tales about going to college when they didn't, they wouldn't be my friend much longer.

As a former Marine, nothing pisses me off more than lying about being a Marine.

I used to work with a guy that was a Khe Sanh... he was really fucked ...

theking 03-22-2013 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19540612)
Recently someone a new friend has entered my social group who claims he is a former US Marine. He tells us he's served three tours of combat duty, and was in Recon. However, when I asked him what his MOS was he couldn't give me a number.... Seems like half of the former Marines I know claim they were in Recon. So I started to question him further he didn't seem to understand the difference between a PI Marine and a Hollywood Marine....

Am I right to be suspicious here? I mean, every Marine knows their MOS (0352, 8513) and every Marine knows the difference between PI and Hollywood, right?

What other questions can I ask him about the Marines that would verify my guess?

Does he claim to be Force Recon or Battalion Recon?

SleazyDream 03-22-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19540651)
If I caught one of my friends spinning tall tales about going to college when they didn't, they wouldn't be my friend much longer.

As a former Marine, nothing pisses me off more than lying about being a Marine.

you have a valid point there.

I'd catch people lying about going to university all the time, esp in Manitoba. They say they were going to 'business' school at the UofM, and until recently there was no 'business' school at the UofM, the program was called 'commerce', and no one I knew ever could call the commerce program 'business, cause the business program was the one from the community college and a joke and it was an insult to anyone in the commerce program to refer to their program as 'business'. Easy to route them out, I'd just ask, ahh you took a commerce degree? Those lying would usually say no, business. So i'd question further, CGA, CA? - they'd say no business. Then I'd ask what building this 'business' degree was headquartered in, at which point they would always get very frustrated and end the conversation. I get why it pisses you off, marines risk their life and train extensively to be called a marine. I spent 3 years and tens of thousands of dollars getting my degree, it pissed me off when some dropout thought he deserved the same recognition as someone who spent the time, money and effort to get a degree.

mind you, all the losers who aren't marines or ex marines or didn't actually get a degree but say they are or did would disagree... lol

Sid70 03-22-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19540651)
If I caught one of my friends spinning tall tales about going to college when they didn't, they wouldn't be my friend much longer.

As a former Marine, nothing pisses me off more than lying about being a Marine.

#1.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JpvcL0JgOZ.../PRIDE-SIN.jpg

SleazyDream 03-22-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 19540675)

see the last sentence in my answer above lol

dyna mo 03-22-2013 08:51 AM

you stay classy gfy!

http://worstprofessorever.com/wp-con...n-burgundy.jpg

L-Pink 03-22-2013 08:51 AM

When you're at a restaurant does he say "please pass the butter" or "pass the fuckin butter?"

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Vendzilla 03-22-2013 08:53 AM

As a veteran, I have total disdain for any wanna be that lies about their service.
Anyone that says they were Seal team 6 is probably lying, members of the UDT won't talk about it.

They should be taken out back and beaten by real vets.
All enlisted Navy have a rate and rank, I was STS3SS

Vendzilla 03-22-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 19540678)
see the last sentence in my answer above lol

no such thing as an EX marine, it's for life

Sly 03-22-2013 08:57 AM

Seems to me it is something that you would not forget. And if you did forget, it would be because you wanted to, which means you would not run around blabbing about being in the Marines.

I wouldn't hassle him too much around friends, you will just look like a jackass. The truth will come out at some point. Until then, stay away.

Those that do don't need to talk about it. They've done it. It's life. It's no big deal.

Sid70 03-22-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 19540678)
see the last sentence in my answer above lol

I have 2 degrees. Math and Economics, major in Finance. But I dont give a single fuck about it. I would trade that shit for 3 year art college.

Sid70 03-22-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19540696)
no such thing as an EX marine, it's for life


Like they get a huge hole in their heads that is uncurable for lifetime?

dyna mo 03-22-2013 08:59 AM

why not just make up your mind whether you like hanging out with the guy or not?

it's not complicated and i don't see a reason for a gotcha.

Rochard 03-22-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 19540671)
Does he claim to be Force Recon or Battalion Recon?

I honestly don't know enough about Recon (then or now) to ask such questions. I had some friends in Recon, but it was like Fight Club - they never ever discussed anything they did.

That's one question I'll ask.

Grapesoda 03-22-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19540691)
As a veteran, I have total disdain for any wanna be that lies about their service.
Anyone that says they were Seal team 6 is probably lying, members of the UDT won't talk about it.

They should be taken out back and beaten by real vets.
All enlisted Navy have a rate and rank, I was STS3SS

the boy, definitely a lair, the gaffer... trust me he's not well balanced, even looks dangerous... he would not talk about it other than to say he was with the guy that writes books now, and he only said that one time. don't remember how it came up... ... the other guy, proven gun fighter. most people don't run around and take off armed drug dealer locations... he only told me a few things because we're friends and I asked... didn't go into any 'war drama' at all...

my daddy was UTD in WWII... didn't talk about it at all really, at least not to me... some Vietnam stories though... his brother was shot down over Germany in WWII, he would tell a few things about that once in a while. he did the whole death march in the dead of winter and the prison camp for 18 months...

AllAboutCams 03-22-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19540711)
the boy, definitely a lair, the gaffer... trust me he's not well balanced, even looks dangerous... he would not talk about it other than to say he was with the guy that writes books now, and he only said that one time. don't remember how it came up... ... the other guy, proven gun fighter. most people don't run around and take off armed drug dealer locations... he only told me a few things because we're friends and I asked... didn't go into any 'war drama' at all...

my daddy was UTD in WWII... didn't talk about it at all really, at least not to me... some Vietnam stories though... his brother was shot down over Germany in WWII, he would tell a few things about that once in a while. he did the whole death march in the dead of winter and the prison camp for 18 months...

Am i reading this right? Your friend goes around taking out drug dealers or you mean he did it for the government?

Vendzilla 03-22-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 19540705)
Like they get a huge hole in their heads that is uncurable for lifetime?

It's a pride thing, I'm a Submariner, I will always be a Submariner.

_Richard_ 03-22-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19540691)
As a veteran, I have total disdain for any wanna be that lies about their service.
Anyone that says they were Seal team 6 is probably lying, members of the UDT won't talk about it.

They should be taken out back and beaten by real vets.
All enlisted Navy have a rate and rank, I was STS3SS

met some dude claiming him and his partner were special forces snipers

was pretty funny

Vendzilla 03-22-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19540711)
the boy, definitely a lair, the gaffer... trust me he's not well balanced, even looks dangerous... he would not talk about it other than to say he was with the guy that writes books now, and he only said that one time. don't remember how it came up... ... the other guy, proven gun fighter. most people don't run around and take off armed drug dealer locations... he only told me a few things because we're friends and I asked... didn't go into any 'war drama' at all...

my daddy was UTD in WWII... didn't talk about it at all really, at least not to me... some Vietnam stories though... his brother was shot down over Germany in WWII, he would tell a few things about that once in a while. he did the whole death march in the dead of winter and the prison camp for 18 months...

My grandfather landed on Iwo Jima, I didn't know that till he died, his tomb stone at the veteran cemetery had a bronze star on it, so we looked it up, Damn that was a surprise, He never talked about it.

Vendzilla 03-22-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19540758)
met some dude claiming him and his partner were special forces snipers

was pretty funny

% of the military that are snipers is probably .00000025%

I held a ribbon for the rifle, but in the Navy, they don't train like they do for UDT or Marines with small arms

Grapesoda 03-22-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19540733)
Am i reading this right? Your friend goes around taking out drug dealers or you mean he did it for the government?

for himself, he's hooked... and enjoys the action... not even sure he is still alive

Grapesoda 03-22-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19540761)
My grandfather landed on Iwo Jima, I didn't know that till he died, his tomb stone at the veteran cemetery had a bronze star on it, so we looked it up, Damn that was a surprise, He never talked about it.

yeah, I knew my uncle was a prisoner from my grandmother, so I asked him.... he didn't really go into any details... just mentioned a few things over the course of several years ...

my daddy joined the service, in WWII, when he was 16 with false ID... went to the pacific... never really mentioned that much and only a few episodes total from all his experiences... one from Vietnam and one from Turkey and one from Korea.... I have no idea what the fuck they were doing in Turkey but I have seen a few pics... and we did live in Gibraltar when I was a little kid...

my step daddy was an army medic in WWII... Germany... never said much about it... I've also spoken with guys from the army corps of engineers about building the roads and landing strips in the pacific

Vendzilla 03-22-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19540809)
yeah, I knew my uncle was a prisoner from my grandmother, so I asked him.... he didn't really go into any details... just mentioned a few things over the course of several years ...

my daddy joined the service, in WWII, when he was 16 with false ID... went to the pacific... never really mentioned that much and only a few episodes total from all his experiences... one from Vietnam and one from Turkey and one from Korea.... I have no idea what the fuck they were doing in Turkey but I have seen a few pics... and we did live in Gibraltar when I was a little kid...

my step daddy was an army medic in WWII... Germany... never said much about it... I've also spoken with guys from the army corps of engineers about building the roads and landing strips in the pacific

I just talk about the funny shit we did, some of it, rather not talk about

TisMe 03-22-2013 10:38 AM

Submariners are easy to tell.

They glow :)

Sid70 03-22-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19540754)
It's a pride thing, I'm a Submariner, I will always be a Submariner.

I feel like i need to post twice.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JpvcL0JgOZ.../PRIDE-SIN.jpg

Grapesoda 03-22-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19540817)
I just talk about the funny shit we did, some of it, rather not talk about

that's what my daddy would tell me... but weird funny shit...... my step daddy told me that they would roll into a village or town and the whole fucking place would be a pile of crap 3 feet tall and that's about it... or tell me about the truces to trade 'goods' and pick up the wounded...

my uncle had nothing funny to say about being a prisoner in WWII. and really only said 2 or 3 things, but once he told me while they were in England getting ready for a mission, he was a gunner on a bomber, a guy on the crew sat down and figured out the odds of coming back on a piece of paper... looked at it and told the army to fuck off he wasn't going anymore... they took him away and my uncles plane got shot down :2 cents:

Bryan G 03-22-2013 11:13 AM

Reminds me of a guy I ran into one time years ago at a bar. He would always come in dressed in the firefighters uniform. He would always say he had just gotten off shift. Anyhow, hed walk around the bar like he was king shit because he was a so called "firefighter" then about a week later I had a package delivered to my house from UPS. Yup he was the delivery driver hahaha. His face dropped when he seen me open my door. Lol!

Vendzilla 03-22-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19540951)
that's what my daddy would tell me... but weird funny shit...... my step daddy told me that they would roll into a village or town and the whole fucking place would be a pile of crap 3 feet tall and that's about it... or tell me about the truces to trade 'goods' and pick up the wounded...

my uncle had nothing funny to say about being a prisoner in WWII. and really only said 2 or 3 things, but once he told me while they were in England getting ready for a mission, he was a gunner on a bomber, a guy on the crew sat down and figured out the odds of coming back on a piece of paper... looked at it and told the army to fuck off he wasn't going anymore... they took him away and my uncles plane got shot down :2 cents:

I was a sonar tech, listening to whales farting. I wish I still had those recordings.
We had our serious stuff, which when you think about how you're in a tin can several hundred feet deep in the ocean, well you get the picture

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19540962)
Reminds me of a guy I ran into one time years ago at a bar. He would always come in dressed in the firefighters uniform. He would always say he had just gotten off shift. Anyhow, hed walk around the bar like he was king shit because he was a so called "firefighter" then about a week later I had a package delivered to my house from UPS. Yup he was the delivery driver hahaha. His face dropped when he seen me open my door. Lol!

All the time we did on liberty, never wore a uniform except once, in Australia. Ended up being a good thing as all the women wanted to talk us and everyone wanted to buy us drinks. Always loved the Cracker Jack Uniform

Vendzilla 03-22-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 19540911)

you do realize we all make our livings from what's listed there?

Bman 03-22-2013 11:15 PM

If your in the Military, any country, any branch you know everything about it. everything. :2 cents:

MrMaxwell 03-22-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 19540672)
you have a valid point there.

I'd catch people lying about going to university all the time, esp in Manitoba. They say they were going to 'business' school at the UofM, and until recently there was no 'business' school at the UofM, the program was called 'commerce', and no one I knew ever could call the commerce program 'business, cause the business program was the one from the community college and a joke and it was an insult to anyone in the commerce program to refer to their program as 'business'. Easy to route them out, I'd just ask, ahh you took a commerce degree? Those lying would usually say no, business. So i'd question further, CGA, CA? - they'd say no business. Then I'd ask what building this 'business' degree was headquartered in, at which point they would always get very frustrated and end the conversation. I get why it pisses you off, marines risk their life and train extensively to be called a marine. I spent 3 years and tens of thousands of dollars getting my degree, it pissed me off when some dropout thought he deserved the same recognition as someone who spent the time, money and effort to get a degree.

mind you, all the losers who aren't marines or ex marines or didn't actually get a degree but say they are or did would disagree... lol


I'm offended by someone like you even writing "Marine"
Also, you didn't capitalize it.
Why I'm facing trial while people like you are roaming around free and easy is a damned mystery to me.

MrMaxwell 03-22-2013 11:40 PM

I don't know any Marines who go around bragging about anything. They'll show you what they are if they're made to, but bragging isn't really their thing. I haven't known many, but the ones I use to play cards with were some of the best human beings I've ever known. Any one of those guys could have killed me with one hand- yet- they paid me if I won, and treated me like a human being.

Usually I am very paranoid- especially if I play cards with a tough crowd- but in spite of them being some of the toughest guys I've ever met I never had to ever feel like taking a gun with me to that game. Not even once.

The one I dated was god damned amazing, she had amazing presence. . What a hell of a lover. One time when she was coming back to the states, she didn't seem like herself anymore and wouldn't talk much. We never saw much of each other after that :( I don't know if she met someone or if she had a bad experience somewhere or what :(

I'll tell you one thing- Marines have real honor, like all Americans use to. They don't need to brag to you or prove anything to you or anyone else. Treat them right and you got a friend for life- fuck with them and you better make a new hole in your ass so it'll be less painful when they do it for you (like a pilot hole before the screw goes in) because they do not fuck around.

seeandsee 03-23-2013 04:01 AM

in my country people lie how much they can drink


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