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wethoney 02-16-2003 10:57 AM

Conversion Rate
 
What's the average rate these days and what is the minimum rate you'll take to promote a site. I heard it said that the average is around:

1:2000

But people won't really promote you unless your under 1:1000 how accurate is that?

p00p 02-16-2003 10:59 AM

1:30

AaronM 02-16-2003 10:59 AM

I woud give hp if my site conversions were that high. I can see that from crap traffic but not as an overall average. OUCH!

KRL 02-16-2003 10:59 AM

My patience level starts to run thin if an advertiser goes beyond 1:300.

The best strategy is to get some kind of transaction from nearly everyone, even if its peanuts, peanuts add up with sufficient volume.

Jakke PNG 02-16-2003 11:00 AM

Currently my overall ratio with ccbill sponsors for this year is 1:1600. That sucks donkeyballs. I'm changing sponsors as we speak.. again.

wethoney 02-16-2003 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
I woud give hp if my site conversions were that high. I can see that from crap traffic but not as an overall average. OUCH!

Well maybe the "average" site sucks ass :1orglaugh

gothweb 02-16-2003 11:01 AM

It depends a lot on what kind of traffic you are using, how the sponsor counts traffic, how much money each sale gets you, and so forth.

Ask yourself-- Could I be making more with this same traffic. If you think so, then the ratio isn't good enough. Otherwise, who cares?

wethoney 02-16-2003 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
My patience level starts to run thin if an advertiser goes beyond 1:300.
1:300 is kicking ass. Are there that many affiliate programs out there that can maintain that level? Not according to the statastician.

AaronM 02-16-2003 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wethoney



Well maybe the "average" site sucks ass :1orglaugh

Could be just that. I am not a frequent surfer so it is difficult for me to say. What I do know is that my conversions are about 1:70 for TGP traffic. I can live with that. :glugglug

wethoney 02-16-2003 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p
1:30
Everyone dreams..

wethoney 02-16-2003 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Could be just that. I am not a frequent surfer so it is difficult for me to say. What I do know is that my conversions are about 1:70 for TGP traffic. I can live with that. :glugglug


1:70... Damn for which site? Hold on a second while I load the "webstripper".

wethoney 02-16-2003 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
I woud give hp if my site conversions were that high. I can see that from crap traffic but not as an overall average. OUCH!

I was taking a look at the statastician and from the looks of that if you are doing bettter than 1:1000 your doing pretty good. On a "pay" tour. I would suppose a free tour is a different story.

newbiewebmistress 02-16-2003 11:17 AM

The last I checked I was 1:600 with silvercash... Anyone else? I hope it picks up soon.

netstarz 02-16-2003 11:20 AM

1-20 or so on 4-free type stuff and 1-500 on average for paysites. My traffic is a mix of ppc, purchased banner spots and toplists.

AaronM 02-16-2003 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wethoney



1:70... Damn for which site? Hold on a second while I load the "webstripper".


What site? For some reason I am hesitant to mention it. I will tell you that if you follow the links in my sig, you can probably figure it out. :winkwink:

wethoney 02-16-2003 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbiewebmistress
The last I checked I was 1:600 with silvercash... Anyone else? I hope it picks up soon.

What's so bad about 1:600??? Unless your sending 599

FlyingIguana 02-16-2003 11:24 AM

is that 1:70 from the join page?

AaronM 02-16-2003 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
is that 1:70 from the join page?
1:70 from the front page.

That is a rough number...Some days it wanders closer to 1:100.

wethoney 02-16-2003 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM



What site? For some reason I am hesitant to mention it. I will tell you that if you follow the links in my sig, you can probably figure it out. :winkwink:

"Foxy In Bath" Needs to be a Wethoney Girl! Send her over.

AaronM 02-16-2003 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wethoney


"Foxy In Bath" Needs to be a Wethoney Girl! Send her over.

LOL...She lives in Vegas...Go get her.

F.Y.I. That is not the link I am talking about. :)

wethoney 02-16-2003 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


LOL...She lives in Vegas...Go get her.

F.Y.I. That is not the link I am talking about. :)

Vegas.. cool. only a short drive away. I would suspect the site is listed int he "folio"

J B 02-16-2003 11:32 AM

Looking at my StatsRemote I see the following:

Ratios this month for about 50 programs (no email sales):
best: 1:29
worst: 1:1683

and a few 0:... with programs where we send almost no traffic...

average: 1:429

AaronM 02-16-2003 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wethoney


Vegas.. cool. only a short drive away. I would suspect the site is listed int he "folio"

I will give you a hint. If you can not figure it out from these then there is no hope.

Edited to remove images. I do not want to hear you bitch about spam. :)

KRL 02-16-2003 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wethoney


1:300 is kicking ass. Are there that many affiliate programs out there that can maintain that level? Not according to the statastician.

You have to know your traffic and have a good feel for exactly what they want. Thus find advertisers with a lot of niche programs so you can target precisely.


Traffic Cash Gold and FM's CECash both offer a huge assortment of niche site selections and do exceptionally well.

gothweb 02-16-2003 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wethoney


1:300 is kicking ass. Are there that many affiliate programs out there that can maintain that level? Not according to the statastician.

Hmm... My sites do about that, overall. Of course, results vary a lot. People in my program range from 1:60 to much worse. I guess what I am wondering is whether the overall average of a program matters, or how *you* do with your traffic.

AaronM 02-16-2003 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
I guess what I am wondering is whether the overall average of a program matters, or how *you* do with your traffic.
Depends on if it your own site or not. :glugglug

KRL 02-16-2003 11:34 AM

Free Progs for e-mail - conversions should be under 1:50, with some as strong as 1:20.

AaronM 02-16-2003 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Free Progs for e-mail - conversions should be under 1:50, with some as strong as 1:20.
Puff puff pass..Then send me your traffic. Of course, I am referring to a free trial...Not a free membership.

Dildozer 02-16-2003 11:41 AM

Ok here's what i like about the statistician, they count their conversions on the first page uniques, which all sponsors should do.

Come on people, counting conversions thru second page clicks is just another way of camoflaging shittier conversions. People who say you do 1:70, seriously how many do you send to that first page to have 70 second page hits?

And furthermore, is it the advertiser's fault if people don't click thru to the second page or is it the sponsors?
I guess it'll have to go both ways, if the advertiser advertises the site the right way without blind links, and if the tour entices the surfer to click through

But still, my main rant is about sponsors gloating about 1:70 conversions when they're calculated with second page uniques. Who the fuck are you fooling?

AaronM 02-16-2003 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Ok here's what i like about the statistician, they count their conversions on the first page uniques, which all sponsors should do.

Come on people, counting conversions thru second page clicks is just another way of camoflaging shittier conversions. People who say you do 1:70, seriously how many do you send to that first page to have 70 second page hits?

And furthermore, is it the advertiser's fault if people don't click thru to the second page or is it the sponsors?
I guess it'll have to go both ways, if the advertiser advertises the site the right way without blind links, and if the tour entices the surfer to click through

But still, my main rant is about sponsors gloating about 1:70 conversions when they're calculated with second page uniques. Who the fuck are you fooling?

Step up to the plate before you attempt to call me a liar. I am counting front page clicks...Not 2nd or any other page. Try it with TGP traffic then come back and call me a liar again.

wethoney 02-16-2003 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
[B]

I will give you a hint. If you can not figure it out from these then there is no hope.


What's her cut of that 1:70 rev?? :Graucho Fiddy Bucks

slapass 02-16-2003 11:46 AM

Gothweb your stuff is so focused that I am not sure I would worry if someone is doing 1:5000 as just sticking it up a on a high traffic hardcore sight probably would not generate sales.

But a hardcore reality site goes 1:2000 and I remove the link and look for a new thing to promote. This last week was the slowest I have had ain awhile. This weekend picked up a bit so I am just hoping it was Holiday and Terrorist keeping people busy. The14th was the start of a pickup which was odd as I did well early that day.

AaronM 02-16-2003 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wethoney



What's her cut of that 1:70 rev?? :Graucho Fiddy Bucks

Nah... I pay her $4.95 per shoot. Just enough to giver her a morning coffee fix. That's all she asks for. :glugglug

Ron2k1 02-16-2003 11:48 AM

If I make galleries with lot's of sponsor links and I get listed at a few tgp's my ratio can be worse then 1:1500

But when I make very clean galleries and I get only half of the clicks my ratio is allready 1:750, so it depends on what of traffic you send.

Today I'm on 1:343 with TGP traffic, that's traffic from very clean galleries

I don't care if only very few people click on my sponsor links as long as those very few people give me sales.

Dildozer 02-16-2003 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


Step up to the plate before you attempt to call me a liar. I am counting front page clicks...Not 2nd or any other page. Try it with TGP traffic then come back and call me a liar again.

Hmmm my rant isn't about you being a liar or not and i'm glad that you're doing so fine with TGP traffic. Good for you.
My problem is with people and sponsors saying their conversions are as low as that when they're actually converting much much higher than that in reality

Tipsy 02-16-2003 11:51 AM

Ratios mean absolutely nothing. I have traffic that converst better than 1-50 although in limited supply. I also have traffic that I'm happy to get 1-500 on as there's lots available. These are both $35-$40 sponsors.

Ratios mean nothing.

AaronM 02-16-2003 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer


Hmmm my rant isn't about you being a liar or not and i'm glad that you're doing so fine with TGP traffic. Good for you.
My problem is with people and sponsors saying their conversions are as low as that when they're actually converting much much higher than that in reality

I am referring to my site...Not one I push TGP stuff on. I am claiming 1:70 and you are suggesting that sponsors who do this are counting 2nd page hits.

Seems pretty direct to me. If I am reading you wrong then I apologize.

JenC 02-16-2003 12:19 PM

I think Aaron's talking about Toni Freeland.com. He shoots the content for that one. It's a fucking KILLER site and I never convert at any more than 1:175 with it. Normally I convert around 1:100.

Last month I made 22 sales on it and that was only on sporadic TGP traffic.

It's in my sig.

JenC 02-16-2003 12:21 PM

I think my sig is phuct.....

Wait, there it is.....

p00p 02-16-2003 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wethoney


Everyone dreams..

LargeCash converts at 1:30, chimp. Read their banner....


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