Plus, WetHoney, the site I saw of yours sucks ass. There is no wonder it doesn't convert worth shit. :Hollering

Chimps can't read

1:270

I have webmasters who do 1:30 - 1:170 (many from GFY) and them the ones who buy exit bullshit traffic cant convert my program and mostlikly any other program

Its all in the form of traffic not just about the site where the traffic is going to

Yes, traffic quality is VERY important. People just don't get that TGP traffic is for people wanting free porn who would hardly ever pay for it. Also it is important to keep loyal customers, repeat business is a MAJOR source of revenue...

Fucking people... geez...

Have any of you ever tried to use an external hit counter for your traffic? out.php?link or something like that..... ? Almost every sponsor I've seen counts 50% or less of the real clicks. It's probably intentional because it's not like it's hard to code an accurate hit counting script..

Three that come to mind:
Porncash is 70%
Nastydollars is 50%
Orgasmcash is 50-70%

e.g. - for porn cash, only 30% of the real clicks are counted.... try it! just go get an outbound tracking script and see for yourself

So anyone who toils and worries over their ratio is wasting their time..... dude who the fuck cares what the ratio is? I'm very cynical, but I think that porn is porn...Any traditional site tour is going to convert the same as any other (ARS, Maxcash, TopBucks, CE, etc, etc.. they're all the fucking same). Sites with content oriented tours tend to do better typically speaking, so your ratio might be a bit better, but so the fuck what? $$$ is what matters. Sponsors usually know what they're doing. If you're not converting with them, maybe evaluate your own marketing techniques, and not bitch at them for having a tour, which is probably just like any other sponsor's. You should worry about how much $ you make at the end of the day/week/whatever.... If you mail, worry about how many sign ups per million sent.. if you do TGP, how many per gallery, AVS the same, etc, etc.. I'm sure most people do a plethora of things, so just worry about the bottom line... what the fuck does it matter if you're 1:70 if your clicks are shaved 75%.......... and also, another thing that is annoying is when someone says What the fuck!! 1000 hits and no sign ups.... dur... it is an average over time anyway..

Have a pleasant day.

Well said:thumbsup

I disagree about all sites being the same, but totally agree with everything else. Especially using a recurring sponsor, good exclusive content sites will make you more money.

I don't even really keep track of traffic anymore, just ROI, factoring in expenses + time. Then I figure out what's making me the biggest profit, and do more of that.

:glugglug

It has to be under 1:1500 for mixed traffic (SE TGP) and most importantly it has to rebill or convert from trial at about 25% of total signups. But I usually look at total earnings....It has to bring in at least $100 / day or it's not worth the time.

This may not sound like much to ask for, but it is rare to see these days. As well as someone mentioned above the character of several processors has changed recently. All of my sites that
are with CCBill that were previously earning well have now dropped into obscurity.

The other thing is providing relevant high quality content for webmasters to use. Especially if the site is themed or niche.

If anyone has a good program and needs the services of a pro webmaster with dedicated servers and hundreds of domains I am looking for a few good sites. ICQ me 17249164 .

Shoplifter, if you're looking for a new site to promote, try the program in my sig. You're not going to find a site that sells better than this: http://www.nasty-cops.tv/

We've sent a couple hundred joins so far and they convert trials to new members at 50% or better consistantly.

Fitty BIATCH!

It's all about fresh exclusive content :winkwink:

When I said the sites were the same, I just mean typical "large" programs, such as comparing ARS and Topbucks... to me it all looks pretty standard. High graphical tours with a join button at the bottom.

Honestly, the best way for a regular webmaster who doesn't have deep pockets to make money is to find a revshare program who uses processor stats, with exclusive reality site based, or even quality movie content. E.g. - Nastydollar or OxCash sites but with processor stats and a lot of free, exclusive, "not run of the mill" shit, which is the same thing as you stated above, I think.. :) Revshare is better, just not quick casino money, or whatever.. heh. but after 3 months of consistently getting sign ups to an exclusive type revshare program, you will be doing prety well... just don't expect it all at once.

For instance, send your traffic to a good movie site, with exclusive stuff that you can actually use w/o paying them..

But, yeah.. good revshare with processor stats is the way to go.

Cheers

couldn't agree with you more :thumbsup

Slapass, were you talking about a bad week with Nasty Dollars? My week with them was atrocious...an I had the pick up on the 15th... weird..

1:150 with ars, long live ars.

I saw 1 : 30 a few weeks ago!
It was an AWESOME affiliate of us.

Conversion depends mostly on the quality of the traffic you send.

If you're ratios are bad? Try Advertising on thehun, your average conversion rate will improve BIG TIME :thumbsup

My affiliates are converting as follows:

Free memberships 1:10 to 1:50.

Paid 1:40 to 1:600.

Since we're a personals site, the conversions vary a lot depending on what kind of site the affiliate has, how their promoting, etc.

1:30 to 1:200 on a pay per signup sponsor.

Conversion rate depends on so many factors including price of site, that it is just about meaningless imho.

Of course more people will sign up to $25 site than a $39.99 site, so conversion rate will be higher, but either may be more profitable to promote.

The only statistic that I focus on is $ earned per banner click which is calculated and ranked automatically by Stats Remote (if you wanna see my stats then check sig).

Having said that, my average conversion ratio on uniques is 1:1381, and my best converting normal paysite is currentlyScores Cash at 1:108.

Doing 1:70 is no big deal just mention the membership rates on your gallery page :)