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 Cyberotica Condones Cheating!  Here's Proof! 
		
		
		"This new feature can be applied to the following countries: China, Egypt, India , Poland, Russia and Uruguay. When you re-route this traffic, it will not show up as raw or unique hits so we can get back to the great conversions we had and let you decide how to maximize your own traffic from those countries by using it for traffic trades or toplists for example. " 
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 here we go again!! 
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 Heh. 
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 :1orglaugh 
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 ban TheFly for being a complete retard! 
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 ... and the proof? :] 
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 fun times 
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 here we go again. 
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 :sleep 
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 Fucking Borgman! 
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 :helpme 
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 Any toplist that doesn't filter by language deserves to be cheated. 
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 cracks open a cold one... 
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 lol, looks like TheFly is trying to "help" CE now. Good thing, I hear they're not doing to well, they can really use this psycho's "publicity stunt". Fuck I gotta learn to read who started the thread before I open it. 
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 How does this prove Cybererotica cheats? 
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 Hey, chick with the muscles.Chick with the muscles! 
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 Cyberotica Condones Cheating!  | 
		
 pass the cocaine flying magoo! :glugglug 
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 How does it prove that?  | 
		
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 I think that's old knowledge? along with a few other sponsors that are lossing there shirt!  | 
		
 For the newbs -- basically Cyberotica is suggesting that U cheat your link trades by sending them worthless foreign traffic...  I'm suprised that a company of this stature would stoop to this level of telling webmasters how to cheat their link trading partners... 
	This finally signals a shift to a new method of trading... The cat is out of the hat, thanks to CE.... Instead of productivity ratios, trades will have to be offset by a "country index"... How many of you are trading on country specific parameters?  | 
		
 The high-end CJ scripts will need to have configurable country specific traffic trading parameters... for those webmasters that want to capitalize on specific countries (if they have a use for that traffic for say a language specific sponsor...) 
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 Damn - I'm all out of popcorn.  
	Okay, listen up and listen carefully. Just because somewhere on a website or via an email or whatever something is said, it DOES NOT MEAN that statement is a company wide policy. It means nothing more than one person said it, and that in itself doesn't mean jack shit. It can also mean that something was mistated and misworded; The person was trying to say one thing and it just came out the wrong way. Every time we make changes to our main site we have three or four of us look it over. Yet still things end up on our website that can be taken many different ways. Email is no different. A few weeks ago we sent out an email to all of our webmasters. It was simple message that bascially said if we don't have your correct address you won't be getting your tax information. However, because of the way it was worded, some webmasters thought that we would be cutting off their checks if their information was incorrect. When you are dealing with companies you have to remember that fact - You are dealing with a COMPANY that has EMPLOYEES that make mistakes, and sometimes say things that come out wrong. Furthermore, a public message board is not the proper place to be complaining about a sponsor, even more so when it's CE.  | 
		
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 That you get from this that we condone cheating is a far leap. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.  | 
		
 Hey Fly, you need to let me know BEFORE you run these new add campaigns so I can add them to your portfolio. 
	Here I will add this one now to your existing portfolio NEW___Campaign #4 Cost $400 For the low low cost of only $400, I will make a post that you encourage your affiliates to cheat. This is highly recommended for large affiliate programs that have been around for a long time. Results. This will give you a chance to come in and defend yourself, and spam any and all new programs you want to announce. This clever marketing techniche will get by the moderaters. Example campaign http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=105147 _________________________________________________ The Fly's Complete Marketing Portfolio Below Campaign #1 Cost $100 For the low low cost of only $100, I will create a fake contest with your company putting up a prize. After I announce a winner I will refuse to pay the prize. You then come in and save the day by putting up the prize. Results. You look like a good hearted company and get tons of goodwill out to potential clients. Example campaign http://gofuckyourself.com/showthrea...threadid=100684 _________________________________________________ Campaign #2 Cost $200 For the low low cost of only $200, I will create the illusion that you and I are partnering up on a project. Then I will claim you hacked my server and tried to steal my ideas. Results. People will think you have a hot project and will jump on board really fast. Example campaign http://gofuckyourself.com/showthrea...threadid=100481 _________________________________________________ Campaign #3 Cost $300 For the low cost of only $300, I will create a post that you owe me for work yet you refuse to pay me. This will create serious interest in your products or services. Results. People will know you pay your bills on time. They will literally knock your doors down to pay you for your services. Example campaign http://gofuckyourself.com/showthrea...threadid=104033 __________________________________________________ NEW___Campaign #4 Cost $400 For the low low cost of only $400, I will make a post that you encourage your affiliates to cheat. This is highly recommended for large affiliate programs that have been around for a long time. Results. This will give you a chance to come in and defend yourself, and spam any and all new programs you want to announce. This clever marketing techniche will get by the moderaters. Example campaign http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=105147 _________________________________________________ I am also available to promote your company at any and all internext shows. Quotes available upon request. My qualifications I am BP4L I have 10,000 ICQ contacts I have over 6000 posts on GFY  | 
		
 Fly, you are a complete coconut.  Why is filtering off worthless traffic that wont convert, and only waste a sponsors bandwidth cheating??.. 
	Filtering this garbage traffic off and sending it elseware is GOOD, it's not cheating. Filtering off that garbage and trying to find someplace where it can be used to make money is not cheating, it's smart...which is obviously something you are not.:1orglaugh  | 
		
 i wonder how Fly gets away with it  :arcadefre  
	must be a family thing, huh  | 
		
 Actually, I would consider this cheating. It's filtering out your crap traffic and sending it to your trades. 
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 so was this another joke? 
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 I want a TheFLY promo. ;) 
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 Literally from the Cecash webmaster area: 
	New GEO-TRACK ROUTING FEATURE The all new Geo-Track Routing option has been added to all the mail programs! This feature allows you to choose the route of certain traffic, that would normally auto direct to the dialer, to go to a place of your choice instead. This new feature can be applied to the following countries: China, Egypt, India , Poland, Russia and Uruguay. When you re-route this traffic, it will not show up as raw or unique hits so we can get back to the great conversions we had and let you decide how to maximize your own traffic from those countries by using it for traffic trades or toplists for example. Go to CE Cash today and sign up for these great programs if you are not already using them and thank you all for your continued support!  | 
		
 CyberErotica is doing nothing wrong, their just giving the bad traffic back to webmasters because the dont even want to waste bandwidth on it. 
	Some of you will shit if you ever start tracking where your traffic really comes from. Posts on CE boards showed some webmasters with TGP galleries had over 70% of their traffic coming from China and Uraguay. CE just said fuck this crap, you can have it back.  | 
		
 theFLY runs toplists and he hates the idea of webmasters using toplists to dump their shit traffic.  
	Because Cyberotica suggested this, theFLY thinks they cheat? Maybe I'm way off.... TheFly likes to stir up shit though, I can't help but think this is some marketing ploy.  | 
		
 TheFly WAS a gangster 
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 "theFLY runs toplists and he hates the idea of webmasters using toplists to dump their shit traffic. " 
	Whats the URL's? I will send him my CE "overflow" traffic  | 
		
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 I guess you must have a toplist or something :)  | 
		
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 Cyberotica is a good company with a solid reputation. Not that I like agreeing with the fly, but I found that statement the fly found on cyberotica to be a wee bit offensive to me. rather than say traffic trades or toplists why not say something like 'redirect this traffic to other sources" A re-write might be smart as I know MANY of cyberotica's clients are in fact traffic traders and toplists. The way that was worded was in a manor that really was offensive to people who run their businesses based on traded traffic. I'm left with the impression that if I trade with someone who deals with cybererotica I'm gona trade good traffic for stuff that it's alomst impossible to make a sale from. I TOTALLY agree with RocHard though - Quote - "Just because somewhere on a website or via an email or whatever something is said, it DOES NOT MEAN that statement is a company wide policy.....It can also mean that something was mistated and misworded; The person was trying to say one thing and it just came out the wrong way. " i would like to POLITLY suggest to Cyberotica that maybe a rewrite of the statement in question is in order.......  | 
		
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 http://www.socalsweets.com/ http://www.secretcurves.com/ http://www.theflyinc.com/models.html Guys that just got in this biz a month ago already make more than TheFly. He is just a talker. Just ignore him man. He has mental problems.  | 
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